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Old August 5th, 2017, 10:24 AM   #1241
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LOL. 20% funded by the McGowan government. They were elected in March, the extension was well and truly paid for before then....
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Old August 5th, 2017, 10:52 AM   #1242
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Australian government press releases about road infrastructure are often loaded with political propaganda, sometimes even going as far as to detract former governments for not delivering or breaking promises. I don't see that as much in other countries.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 11:18 AM   #1243
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Australia is uber tribal politically. Its a damn shame really as it stifles development.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 06:04 PM   #1244
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Just a few minutes watching pariiamentary debates in Canberra and you'd see how ridiculous it gets sometimes...
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Old August 6th, 2017, 06:04 AM   #1245
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Australian government press releases about road infrastructure are often loaded with political propaganda, sometimes even going as far as to detract former governments for not delivering or breaking promises. I don't see that as much in other countries.
I live in Perth, and know all about it.

Not just road infrastructure. Governments do it with everything....
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Old August 6th, 2017, 07:28 AM   #1246
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Was truly entertaining to watch Mark McGowan open the Aubin Grove Station just weeks after becoming premier and trying to claim it.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 09:47 AM   #1247
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North East Link: Which of the four options is best?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-0...mpared/8782898

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After years of talk and millions of dollars spent on planning, the Victorian Government has released four route options for the proposed long awaited North East Link.

The favoured option of both the Government and the Opposition is Corridor A, which is the cheapest and shortest, but we've looked at how each would impact road users and the surrounding environments.

With many of the options running through sensitive Victorian electorates, we've also analysed the potential political ramifications of each proposal.


Option A


Option B


Option C


Option D
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:12 PM   #1248
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Bruce Highway

https://www.fullyloaded.com.au/indus...ection-upgrade
A section of the $8.5 billion Bruce Highway Upgrade project has completed six months ahead of its due date.

Chester says the $100.4 million upgrade will benefit all drivers using the Bruce Highway.

The upgrade includes:

* a new six-lane bridge over the highway to increase capacity and ease congestion
* longer on and off-ramps to improve safety for motorists entering and exiting the highway
* improved bridge clearance to avoid the need for high loads detouring on other roads.
Holy cow, $ 100 million for a new suburban interchange without any property relocation, that is outrageous! It's basically a new overpass with new ramps. Nothing more...

Translated to Eurospeak that would be € 84 million. I think that similar projects in most of Western Europe shouldn't cost more than € 20 - 25 million and far less in cheaper countries. € 84 million buys you 10-15 kilometers of new motorway in Poland or Spain including an interchange or two.

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Old September 14th, 2017, 01:26 AM   #1249
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They are building an $80 million CAD interchange right now in Ontario, but it looks quite a bit more extensive than that. It involves widening the main highway for a few KM and sone large grading and bridge replacements beyond the basic overpass.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 05:53 AM   #1250
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North East Link: Which of the four options is best?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-0...mpared/8782898





Option A


Option B


Option C


Option D
What's that "urban growth boundary" on the maps? A line beyond which development is limited or prohibited?

Also, I don't get option D.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 08:38 AM   #1251
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the urban growth boundary is pretty much just that.

Option D utilises the existing "Healesville Freeway" reservation to connect the extended Metropolitan Ring Road with Eastlink.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healesville_Freeway
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Old September 14th, 2017, 02:21 PM   #1252
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Urban growth boundaries are the primary reason why real estate is so expensive. It caps the supply of housing desired by the public, so it drives up prices. This can be observed in any market with artificial or natural boundaries.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 03:40 PM   #1253
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Urban growth boundaries are the primary reason why real estate is so expensive. It caps the supply of housing desired by the public, so it drives up prices. This can be observed in any market with artificial or natural boundaries.
In some places I'm sure this is true, but property here in Cairns is still relatively affordable despite the severe geographical constraints placed on the city by the mountains that squash development against the coast.
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It depends on the growth rate of a city and the amount of available land within the urban growth boundary. If there is strong growth and limited supply of developable land, housing prices will escalate more quickly.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #1255
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But if there are no boundaries or limits, you will end up having a lot of housing or even tall residential buildings far away from the city, surrounded just by empty fields. At least that's happening in the capital city of Romania (I don't think it's the best example though).
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Old September 15th, 2017, 02:23 PM   #1256
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Or Houston. The city is essentially the size of Conneticut.
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Old September 15th, 2017, 02:31 PM   #1257
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Houston is actually not really that thinly populated. Of course it's not Manhattan or Vancouver, but the built-up area (not metropolitan area) of Houston is actually denser than most Northeastern urban areas. Despite the lack of zoning and urban growth boundaries, Houston has a relatively normal density in suburban areas by U.S. standards.
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Old October 2nd, 2017, 12:06 AM   #1258
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 03:15 AM   #1259
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But if there are no boundaries or limits, you will end up having a lot of housing or even tall residential buildings far away from the city, surrounded just by empty fields. At least that's happening in the capital city of Romania (I don't think it's the best example though).
Even the Toronto area has skyscrapers and cows next to each other (e.g. Mississauga between 403 and 401), and that's with super-strict density requirements and smart growth, massive property values and all that... it's really remarkable when you fly into the airport in particular
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Mackay Ring Road, Queensland

Work starts on Mackay Ring Road Stage 1 upgrade

Work has started on Mackay and Whitsunday’s largest ever road infrastructure project with the first sod officially turned on the Mackay Ring Road project.

Federal Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Darren Chester said the Bruce Highway through Mackay was a critical commuter, freight and tourist route, and this upgrade would improve travel times by 14 per cent by avoiding 13 kilometres of low-speed urban roadway.

Queensland Minister for Main Roads and Road Safety Mark Bailey said the Mackay Ring Road would deliver 11.3 kilometres of new road, including the first 2.6 kilometres of the Walkerston Bypass.

“Vehicles using the ring road will avoid 10 sets of traffic lights between Stockroute Road and Bald Hill Road with 80km/h and 100km/h speed limits,” Mr Pearce said.

“The upgrade once finished, scheduled in early 2020, will not only increase safety and reduce accidents but also cater for the region’s predicted 50 per cent growth in cross-river traffic by 2031.”
Full statement: http://statements.qld.gov.au/Stateme...tage-1-upgrade
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