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Old July 26th, 2007, 08:53 PM   #81
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Well i don“t know but the Motorways showed here near Tirana doesn“t look so much like a real motorway, but it“s better than any 1X1 at least, but it looks way too narrow i think, but that doesn“t matter. And 7t, why are you always so upset i don“t get? We in Bulgaria have bad roadinfrastructure aswell.
We are upset too,although we have something like 900km. Its just that humans dont really think it is good what they have. Humans always want more. Thats our nature
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Old July 26th, 2007, 11:06 PM   #82
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Every road was a dirt road once...Can Shanghai blame any other city for not having maglev?
no need to get defensive, i'm only stating the facts ... at least i went to albania and supported the local economy.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 11:11 PM   #83
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no need to get defensive, i'm only stating the facts ... at least i went to albania and supported the local economy.
I didnt get defensive,since I'm not albanI just pointed out that what is bad for others,may entirely suit the locals.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #84
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I didnt get defensive,since I'm not albanI just pointed out that what is bad for others,may entirely suit the locals.
have you been on the dirt roads in albania? i have and i don't think they'd suit the locals given the surprisingly large amount of motor traffic on these dirt roads. they were large sections of these elevated dirt roads that were barely wide enough for 2 cars, and there would be large semi-trailers going in both directions.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 01:32 AM   #85
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Come on people... let's be realistic!
Albania roads in general are really bad. Maybe even the worst in Europe.

But that's understandable taken into account Albania's recent history!

Now it's time to work to improve that, and looking at the future with optimism!

Let's hope that in some years the roads will be much better!
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Old July 27th, 2007, 03:57 PM   #86
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Oh come on,"developed" west, you dont have rural road,or what? This road is perfect for the traffic it withstands. Dont be ashamed Albania!
A "national" road (E-6) in developed Norway:

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Old July 27th, 2007, 04:28 PM   #87
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A "national" road (E-6) in developed Norway:

Yeah i guess there was an accident there with total blocking of all lanes.

All cars can turn there and went back for another route, but trucks can't and have to wait.
I saw that once on the Dutch N35 near Raalte. Looks kinda weird, a road with only trucks.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 04:37 PM   #88
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Qtya, your images upset me.
They look like they were taken sometime in the 1800s.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 05:26 PM   #89
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Or Greece in the 1970s?
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Old July 27th, 2007, 07:23 PM   #90
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A "national" road (E-6) in developed Norway:
Well, mate, but norwegian roads suck! especially taken into account how rich the country is.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:40 AM   #91
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Well, mate, but norwegian roads suck! especially taken into account how rich the country is.
That was the point I was trying to make. Road quality is not a/the only sign of a country's "developedness". In the photo there had been an accident, but it's of a road that links two "major" cities, and that's it, there are no more lanes or alternative roads.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 03:40 PM   #92
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Come on people... let's be realistic!
Albania roads in general are really bad. Maybe even the worst in Europe.
You should be also realistic too.

Are these really the worst roads in Europe???

Tiranė - Fushė Krujė


Fushė Krujė - Krujė


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For the next time:

You should be every year in Albania if you want to talk thinks like "the worst road in Europe". Have you ever been on the Beograd-Nis Motorway?? That's a funny adventure for your car!

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Old July 29th, 2007, 03:56 PM   #93
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Nice.

How do you speak out the ė letter in Albanian?

In Dutch ė are usually used in words with ie and iė becomes ie-ee. (like the word official - officieėl - offi-cie-eel)
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Old July 29th, 2007, 04:24 PM   #94
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For the next time:

You should be every year in Albania if you want to talk thinks like "the worst road in Europe". Have you ever been on the Beograd-Nis Motorway?? That's a funny adventure for your car!
you was driving that section 3 years ago,right
almost all section was reconstructed in last 2 years,but if you think about section near belgrade you are right it can be interasting
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #95
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let me learn you one thing: languages are SLAVIC, not Slavonian. Slavonian is something that comes from croatian province Slavonia. but Russians, Croats, Serbs, Czechs, Slovaks etc. are Slavs (not slaves ) and we have adjective "slavic" form that
Let me teach you something: "let me learn you", you can't say that.


Albanian Motorways are very nice.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #96
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You should be also realistic too.

Are these really the worst roads in Europe???

Well, I keep that Albanian network as a whole is probably one of the worst in Europe... and the photo's you posted didn't make me think otherwise.
Anyway, I don't mean this as an attack on Albania or anything, so no need get angry at me.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:55 PM   #97
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But thats probably improving alot, which is great!!
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Old July 29th, 2007, 07:42 PM   #98
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the raods don“t look so bad, the roads shown on the pics have very good pavment and some of them are shiny. Is it like that in General in albania or not?
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Old July 30th, 2007, 08:05 AM   #99
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In general road infrastructure has drastically improved. Some photos of different segments throughout the country:









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Old July 30th, 2007, 08:12 AM   #100
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Nice.

How do you speak out the ė letter in Albanian?

In Dutch ė are usually used in words with ie and iė becomes ie-ee. (like the word official - officieėl - offi-cie-eel)
The letter ė is probably the most commonly used vowel in today's standard albanian.
I say this because since tosk is the official dialect, in many cases nouns end up in that vowel. That's not the case with gheg where letter ė is only placed between other letters, rarely in the end.
It's pronounced like the "a" in "a book"
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