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Old March 13th, 2010, 07:11 PM   #1
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Cochin Discussions

Come on guys, shoot your opinions regarding developments that has to come to Kochi for her development...

Let us discuss it here, so that the project threads wont become messed up.......


We were talking about the infrastructural development needed for Kochi's development, what do you guys think about the need of Metro in kochi...
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Old March 13th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #2
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Good initiative sanju...Now the panel discussion members can have their cuppa here. The project thread was really getting on my nerves..
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Old March 13th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #3
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Thanku Scorpio, what is your opinion regarding ring road for Kochi, is it practically possible?
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Old March 14th, 2010, 09:01 AM   #4
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Thanku Scorpio, what is your opinion regarding ring road for Kochi, is it practically possible?
Thank yu Sanju for the initiative....It is obviousely possible, because the municipal, panchayat belt encircle Kochi CBD is not so densely populated as you percieve. There is plenty land available. offcourse it is obvious that a certain amt of land aquisition is required.
But you need to make a master plan dvpt that ensures town planners, consultants derive optimum use of land or rather minimal acquisition of land, most of the islands scattered around can have land reclaimed from marshy water logged areas which only produce mosquitoes.
A traffic network should go hand in hand with clubbing of ring road, rail, water ways network.
I am also sure that all this is not possible in shot...could break down the entire project into multiple phase of development. And there shud be a gud nodal agency is appointed who have expertise in the same.
On the finance part you can consider the same self - financed SPV method for these projects with a long term vision.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 10:04 AM   #5
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See these pics shot frm vallarpadom ICTT area. this is how the neighbouring islands around Kochi looks like. So land aquisition is won't make a big issue, except the CRZ rules, surely mainland eastern side from eloor, kalamassery, perumbavoor, kakkanad, puthencruz, tripunithura to Edakochi is a concern.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 10:19 AM   #6
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Old March 14th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #7
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See these pics shot frm vallarpadom ICTT area. this is how the neighbouring islands around Kochi looks like. So land aquisition is won't make a big issue, except the CRZ rules, surely mainland eastern side from eloor, kalamassery, perumbavoor, kakkanad, puthencruz, tripunithura to Edakochi is a concern.
The environment is really fragile at some locations..thats also a concern for a city like Kochi..adverse effects can happen if mangroves are removed for massive landfills, it can be done with providing bridges i guess...

And is there any way to widen chittor road which goes parallel to MG road and KK road..
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Old March 14th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #8
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Thanks sanju , This was indeed required .

can any throw light on the Edappally Kuttipuram 4 lane highway , my brotherinlaw is having land close to the highway side , he is saying current price is close to 5 lac a cent,

does this highway connects North Parur to Main city ... if yes , some time down we can see flats mushrooming towards Parur as its just 1 hr drive from edapally , once highway comes , time will further reduce ...
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Thanks sanju , This was indeed required .

can any throw light on the Edappally Kuttipuram 4 lane highway , my brotherinlaw is having land close to the highway side , he is saying current price is close to 5 lac a cent,

does this highway connects North Parur to Main city ... if yes , some time down we can see flats mushrooming towards Parur as its just 1 hr drive from edapally , once highway comes , time will further reduce ...
Calicut-Edapally stretch is given first preference for 4 laning, I dont know when will it happen..the traffic volume is very high and due to this it will take upto 6 hours on road between EKM & CLT, which is covered within 4 to 5 hours by train...

KMC, are you talking about N-Paravur?? yes this road connects it to the main city, private buses between ekm & clt uses this road..
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Old March 14th, 2010, 08:14 PM   #10
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hey nice to see the kochi forum active once again..and nice to see that the Trivandrumites are back with their moral support to kochi..

Tender has been given out to the Edapally-Kuttipuram strech but LA problems are acute, especially up to Cheranaloor where LA had happened once for 30 m width..

Most of the this strech up to chavakad will be build as bye-passes rather than widening becuase of the heavy built up on the exisiting alignment. The byepass for paravur will start from cheriappally and end near the muthukunam bridge,part of it is already build. It will 10 km long..

If the GIDA plans for a bridge to chathanad materializes then the distance from Marine drive to paravur area will be less than 15 km..

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Old March 15th, 2010, 07:17 AM   #12
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NH-17 in the city end is stuck with the land acquisition issue. Land was acquired for 30 metres ROW, but now NHAI needs 45 metres. A lot of buildings had come up on either side of the 30 metres swath, so there is serious opposition to the new requirement.

IMHO, rather than delaying things or steamrolling the popular opinion, the road should be built in the 30 metres space.

Widening chittoor road seems impossible, since every inch of the space on either side is built up, and the land price in in tens of lakhs. Same is the case for all the city roads. We should focus on roads that could be built without too much disruption to the present build ups.

IMHO, the following are the needs of road infra for the greater metro area:

1. Bypass the through traffic on NH-47. Start with an 'inner bypass' using the SP/AP road. Then, by 2020, build the outer bypass Angamaly-Perumbavoor-Puthencruz-Thalayolaparambu-Vechoor-Cherthala.

2. Create a feeder freeway from Kalamassery-Edapally-Bypass-Aroor, with ramps at major intersections.

3. Create an elevated city freeway from Cheranelloor-Highcourt-Menaka-South-Thevara with ramps at major points.

4. Build arteries to CBD.
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1. Bypass the through traffic on NH-47. Start with an 'inner bypass' using the SP/AP road. Then, by 2020, build the outer bypass Angamaly-Perumbavoor-Puthencruz-Thalayolaparambu-Vechoor-Cherthala.

2. Create a feeder freeway from Kalamassery-Edapally-Bypass-Aroor, with ramps at major intersections.

3. Create an elevated city freeway from Cheranelloor-Highcourt-Menaka-South-Thevara with ramps at major points.

4. Build arteries to CBD.
The point made bold must get top priority....
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Old March 15th, 2010, 01:10 PM   #14
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The point made bold must get top priority....
The marine drive - chathiath road have lot of future prospects. It will serve as a bye- pass towards pachalam and northern part of the city.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #15
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‘Pattanam, first habitat site excavated in Kerala'
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KOCHI: Pattanam was the first habitat site excavated in Kerala, said P.J. Cherian, director of the Kerala Council for Historical Research. He was speaking at a seminar on ‘Indian Ocean exchanges and significance of Pattanam archaeological research,' organised by the Department of History of Maharaja's College, Ernakulam, on Tuesday.
It was at Arrikkamedu, near Pondicherry, that the remains of a habitat were found earlier. Pattanam means a town or a port city in at least a dozen Indian languages. Researchers are yet to locate the sites of the ancient ports of South India, including the ones in Kerala, he said.
The archaeological finds from Pattanam indicated 3,000 years of continuous history. The finding of beads and semi-precious stones of fine quality in large numbers from Pattanam indicated that beads manufacturing units existed in this area, he said.
Presenting a paper on the archaeology of the lower Periyar basin, Rajan Chedambath, secretary of the Centre for Heritage Environment and Development of the Kochi Corporation, said habitational deposits in the lower Periyar basin indicated the existence of many significant archaeological sites there.
Many other sites in area
Pattanam was one of the many such sites in the region.
In areas such as Mathilakam, few kilometres north of the Periyar river, pottery of fine ware quality were found. However, no attention was given to study such sites.
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Krishna good to see that news here....guys any updates on this? has anybody visited that site any time??
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ദുബായിലെ സാമ്പത്തിക മാന്ദ്യം ടീകോമിനെയും ബാധിച്ചതിനാലാണു പദ്ധതി പ്രവര്*ത്തനം തുടങ്ങാതെ നീട്ടിക്കൊണ്ടുപോകുന്നതെന്ന മുഖ്യമന്ത്രിയുടെ ആരോപണം സ്മാര്*ട്ട് സിറ്റി സിഇഒ തള്ളി.
ടീകോമിനെ സാമ്പത്തികമാന്ദ്യം ബാധിച്ചെന്ന ആരോപണങ്ങള്* തീര്*ത്തും തെറ്റാണ്. മാള്*ട്ടയിലെ പദ്ധതി ഒന്നാംഘട്ടം പൂര്*ത്തിയാക്കിയതാണ് ഇതിന് ഉദാഹരണമായി അദ്ദേഹം ചൂണ്ടിക്കാട്ടിയത്. മാള്*ട്ട പദ്ധതി ഒരു വര്*ഷവും മൂന്നുമാസവും കൊണ്ട് ഒന്നാംഘട്ടം പൂര്*ത്തിയാക്കി. ഈ വര്*ഷം മൂന്നാംപാദത്തില്* ഇതിന്*റെ പ്രവര്*ത്തനം തുടങ്ങുമെന്നും കുറിപ്പില്* പറയുന്നു.
പത്താം തീയയിയിലെ മന്ത്രിസഭാ യോഗത്തിലാണു സ്മാര്*ട്ട് സിറ്റി പദ്ധതി സംബന്ധിച്ചു സര്*ക്കാര്* ഔദ്യോഗികമായി ചര്*ച്ചചെയ്തത്. സ്വതന്ത്രാവകാശത്തോടെ ഭൂമി നല്*കില്ലെന്നും പദ്ധതി ഉടന്* തുടങ്ങണമെന്നുമാവശ്യപ്പെട്ടു ടീകോമിന് അന്ത്യശാസന കത്ത് അയയ്ക്കാന്* മന്ത്രിസഭാ യോഗം തീരുമാനിച്ചിരുന്നു.
തിങ്കളാഴ്ച വൈകിട്ടു നാലിനു കുമ്പളം റമദ റിസോര്*ട്ടിലാണു ഡയറക്റ്റര്* ബോര്*ഡ് മീറ്റിങ്. ടീകോമുമായുണ്ടാക്കിയ കരാര്* പ്രകാരം കമ്പനിയുടെഇരുപതാം ഡയറക്റ്റര്* ബോര്*ഡ് യോഗം ഈമാസം ചേരേണ്ടതുണ്ട്. അതുപ്രകാരമാണ് 29നു ഡയറക്റ്റര്* ബോര്*ഡ് യോഗം ചേരുന്നതെന്നാണ് ഔദ്യോഗിക വിശദീകരണം.
കഴിഞ്ഞ മന്ത്രിസഭാ യോഗത്തില്* സര്*ക്കാര്* കൈക്കൊണ്ട ധാരണകള്* ടീകോമിനെ തിങ്കളാഴ്ചത്തെ യോഗത്തില്* അറിയിക്കും. തുടര്*ന്നു നടക്കുന്ന ചര്*ച്ചകള്* പദ്ധതിയുടെ ഭാവി നിശ്ചയിക്കുക.
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Old March 26th, 2010, 06:59 AM   #18
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Dileep, please give brief translation in English when news in Malayalam is quoted. BTW it is difficult even for a mallu like me to read this ‘typewriter’ Malayalam.

BTW whose photo is in your Avatar? Seems familiar
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Old March 26th, 2010, 01:26 PM   #19
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Sudheesh, the forum software is doing something to unicode. The other forums where I post does work fine. Maybe I shbouldn't post malayalam here.

Right now, I am a bit pressed for time for translation. I can come back and do it later, or delete the post.

About the Avatar, maybe you saw me around when you visited here. :LOL:
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Old March 26th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #20
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Seems like Mr Fareed Abdul Rahman has not read the agreement properly. It is clearly mentioned that

"5.4 Upon completion of master plan that determines different plots among other things, SPV will identify plots to be converted to freehold and such plots will be converted to free hold by GoK forthwith without any further consideration or charges. Cumulative area of the plots converted to freehold will not exceed 12% of the total land area at any point of time."

Why news channels are making news without reading the agreement? Kerala govt should cancel the lease agreement with TECOM. TECOM doesnt have the fund to prepare a master plan for the project.

See the malta project. Dont know whether they have a clear raod map about this project also. They are constructing a 5 lakh sq feet building in malta. Its quite interesting that this is the first phase of Malta Smart City and TECOM is going all around the world to find IT companies for this space. They might be planning the same thing for Kochi also. Thats why they are not preparing atleast a master plan. Why TECOM need 500 acres of land for building such an IT park ?

http://www.smartcity.ae/news/01242010.html
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