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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:18 PM   #1
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Pula (Croatia) commies

Evo pulskih commiesa, građenih krajem 70-ih i u 80-ima. Po meni odličan izbor boja, a time su se lijepo uklopili u mediteranski ambijent. Uživajte

Here are some pictures of commies from Pula, built in late 70s and 80s... They have good colour combinations, which makes them perfectly integrated into the environment

Veruda (location: http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.852...&z=17&l=20&m=s )










Vidikovac ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.855...&z=18&l=20&m=s )











Veruda ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.859...&z=18&l=20&m=s )




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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:23 PM   #2
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Šijana ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.877...&z=18&l=20&m=s )












Šijana ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.875...&z=18&l=20&m=s )




Šijana ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.876...&z=18&l=20&m=s )


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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:30 PM   #3
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Sisplac ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.855...&z=18&l=20&m=s )







Stoja ( http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.861...&z=17&l=20&m=s )











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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:38 PM   #4
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Vidikovac: vodotoranj - prvi neboder u Puli izgrađen 1967.god.
skyscraper/water tower - the first skyscraper in Pula built in 1967
http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.852...&z=18&l=20&m=s




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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:59 PM   #5
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Was this recently renovated?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #6
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Was this recently renovated?
yes. The renovation was finished in december 2009. As it's the first skyscraper, 40 years old, it's facade needed renovation.
And I'm glad that colours are "normal"

look at the old facade
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Old March 9th, 2010, 03:26 PM   #7
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By the way, all of this buildings on pictures above have original facades, except one. The mediterranean climate with very low percentage of humidity in the air (even during winter) has preserved facades from decaying...
Besides the water-tower, only this building has a new facade (but they decided to change original colours into colours of the city-yellow&green)

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Old March 9th, 2010, 10:13 PM   #8
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It could be worse...
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Old March 10th, 2010, 02:05 PM   #9
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It could be worse...
It could. But can you imagine what kind of horror it would be if all 5 buildings/skyscrapers were in yellow/green combination. As you can see on pictures above, this neighbourhood can be seen even from Vodnjan (10km from Pula) and from almost every part of the city, and it's a symbol of the city, so this combination is ridiculous. The original colours are beige and white, which makes these buildings perfectly integrated with mediterranean vegetation and its surroundings and represents a nice cityscape...
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It could. But can you imagine what kind of horror it would be if all 5 buildings/skyscrapers were in yellow/green combination
Believe me I can, in fact I've seen much worse like: http://www.nowemiasto.rzeszow.pl/gal...y/F1010027.jpg

people responsible for this renovetions have often very poor taste
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Old March 11th, 2010, 10:54 AM   #11
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hey Puležan do you have any groundplans of Veruda commies?

What I like about all these former yugoslavian commies is that fronts of these houses are almost never plain, many flats per floor are shifted against each other. BTW I also like all these "towerblocks", I don't remember the term time69 used for this. Lets call them "non - multi-entry- slabs". The nice thing about them is that they have sometimes in a abstract manner this star shape, means: imagine you have a quadratic groundplan of a house now you are able to fill the corners of the square with one flat. The effect of this procedure is that you can also halve the square and get two flats but now with double orientation. But the maximum of flats per floor in a towerblock should never get greater than you would gain flats when you divide the square by four means you fill the corners. Because then you still have in such flats at least 2 windows with different orientation. because many towerblocks suffer from a long inside corridor slab. with nearly 20 flats per floor. the effect is that every flats has windows only in one direction and you get the feeling as you would live in a "tube-like" flat.

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http://www.roell.net/photoblog/2004/03/09/flur.shtml


http://picture.immobilienscout24.de/..._1_basic.jpg?0

an example for the star shape:

from Košice-Dargovských hrdinov

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Old March 11th, 2010, 09:22 PM   #12
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I presume you are talking about these 4 buildings: http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.853...&z=17&l=20&m=s

I don't have exact groundplans, but I've drawn it for you
I made it in paint, but it will serve the purpose
The deployment of flats is not very precise, but it's just for your orientation. On each floor there are 7 flats. Flat n.3 is the biggest, while flat n.7 is the smallest (only a small kitchen, room and a bathroom). Each flat has windows on at least 2 sides of the building (you have mentioned the importance of that) and a balcony, except flat n.7.
These 4 skyscrapers are the tallest buildings in Pula, built between 1976 and 1978. They have 18 floors total (basement, suteren*, ground floor and 15 upper floors)
* "suteren" is a level between basement and ground, which has been "invented" by socialist era architects. The story goes like this: each five stories building (or higher) must have elevators, which is expensive. In that period the most important thing was to build as many buildings as cheaper as possible, so in most cases they've been building only low buildings (up to 5 floors) or higher than 10 floors which have elevators. In first case, they came to idea to put another floor-suteren-to the ground level, after that comes "ground floor" and after that 4 upper floors. In fact, these buildings are 5-stories (5+1), but as they have only 4 regular floors, they didn't have to put elevators in it. Bigger building-not as expensive

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Old March 11th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #13
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thank you very much Puležan for your fast and informative reply. I think the groundplan you have drawn looks pretty well, but does anyone know how to do this professionally for instance in latex? i am not sure what kind of software students of architecture use to generate groundplans. i also would be happy to have some GUI with some grid points where a groundplan is made pretty fast, because i do not use windows and as long as i am using linux i had to turn to gimp. but i dont have the patience to click somewhere around.
so if anyone knows please let me know if there is something avaible as free or open-source software. because in future it woul be nice also to have some groundplans for some commieblocks.

BTW: curious story about that suteran, i have never heard that
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Old March 12th, 2010, 12:32 AM   #14
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You welcome

yes, that suteren story is very interesting. In "normal conditions" (in other part of the world) it would be ground floor

Anyway, you can read this thread, I'll put some more pictures of commies from Pula, but this time those from 50s and 60s (5 stories). But it would be in april, when I come back to Pula
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Old April 7th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #15
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Evo novih slika iz Šijane, Verude i Vidikovca
Ovaj put zgrade iz 50-ih i 60-ih...

Commies from 50s and 60s...

Šijana http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.875...&z=17&l=20&m=s










One picture showing buildings you've already seen
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Old April 7th, 2010, 12:27 AM   #16
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Veruda http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.856...&z=17&l=20&m=s
The plan was to create a park/square between these buildings, but it remained big ugly parking place








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Old April 7th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #17
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Vidikovac http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.856...&z=17&l=20&m=s

It was a rainy day, so everything looks sad





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thx for all the pics you have made.
I like the last type shown very much, because of the ordering of the balconies. What I don't like is when balconies are so near to each other, that your neighbor can take a look just around the corner. I made that experience and my neighbor was getting on my nerves, so I just couldn't relax and finally moved out.
Do you have any pictures of this last type which shows it from the backside?
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thx for all the pics you have made.
I like the last type shown very much, because of the ordering of the balconies. What I don't like is when balconies are so near to each other, that your neighbor can take a look just around the corner. I made that experience and my neighbor was getting on my nerves, so I just couldn't relax and finally moved out.
Do you have any pictures of this last type which shows it from the backside?
you welcome

You can see the backside of those buildings on the last picture (the one with the little park). It's almost the same as in the front side. Generally, commies from 50s and 60s look the same in both front and back sides (but those in the last post were built on the beginning of 70s)
What I really like about these buildings is the fact that all of them have big windows and many balconies, so flats are really nice
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Old April 8th, 2010, 05:02 PM   #20
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Great report, Puležan! I made a similar one some time ago, here are the links: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. They kinda supplement each other.

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