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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #1
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NOTTINGHAM | Barton Quarter | 5 Year Masterplan

Barton Quarter Masterplan - Chilwell

Status: Proposed (Consultation)
Regen Zone: Notts City - Chilwell
Developer: Barton Buses
Architects: Maber Associates
Cost: £?
Use: Offices (11,000m²), New Homes (107), Retail (1,700 sq. m), Other Facillities

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David Lock Architects
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The proposals will see bus old HQ site redeveloped for new homes, businesses,
shops, studios and restaurants and cafes/bars. We also propose a crèche and/or
health and fitness club.

We propose around 107 new homes, with apartments and town houses, with around
11,000sq. m of offices, and around 1,700sq. m of other commercial space. Our
proposals could create around 700 jobs.

The project will take about 5 years, and we hope to begin as soon as planning
permission is granted.

Current Status:
A planning application has been submitted to Broxtowe Borough Council and the
plans are now in consultation with the public.

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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #2
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Bus company Bartons is to redevelop its Chilwell site - creating 700 jobs.

The 'Barton Quarter' would have offices, housing, a cr??che and a health and fitness centre.

Plans have been submitted to Broxtowe Borough Council for 100,000sq ft of offices and 107 town houses and apartments. New shops are planned in High Road.

The Chilwell site was the headquarters and garage for Barton Transport's fleet of buses for more than 70 years. Thomas Barton founded the company in 1908 and it was sold in 1989.

Since then the old buildings have been used by small businesses. Large parts of the site have remained unused.

Managing director Simon Barton said it was an important stage in regenerating the site. "We are a long established local company and want to ensure the development provides jobs and new homes - our concept of a Quarter will ensure both can be developed in harmony.

"We intend to remain involved in the development, and may develop parts of the site ourselves as well as bringing in specialist developers."

The proposals focus on a new urban square created within the site.

Access to the offices will be from Queens Road West, with houses on the northern side of the site and shops along High Road.

The site is on the proposed new route of the tram, which is due to be built through the town centre and along the High Road in 2013.

The plans are on display at Bartons offices in High Road tomorrow and Friday between 11am and 2pm and 4pm to 7.30pm, and on Saturday, between 11am and 4pm. Log on to www.bartonquarter.com .
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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #3
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Well.. it dosn't look all that exciting at the moment... however the plans are at early stages and are well outside of the city centre. Hopefully, we can use this thread to intelligently discuss this and I'll try get the developers to take a look at our views.

So.. guys... what do you think?

The architects look as if they have some decent scheme but at the same time some are really bland and boring. Look at the buildings they have marked as gateway on the plan above... it hardly looks anything like a gateway building.
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I think that the fact that money is going to be pumped into a outer area of the city is a good thing. The plans don't look amazing but they don't really need to be at this stage i suppose. But it would be nice if the developers developed this scheme with enviromentally policies being the basis of all the buildings.
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I would like to see closer details. I might go down to the exhibition tomorrow.

What does anyone/everyone else think?
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Looks like an alright proposal. I like the buildings with the rooftop gardens. They looks like townhouses which I like.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 07:24 PM   #7
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and what does everyone else think of this?
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agree with stef, it is difficult to tell from the website how good this development will be. I know Beeston fairly well and am sure that the tram and other developments will really transform the place. Hopefully the high street will see some investment too.
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I think this is an excellent proposal - I like the integration of homes and businesses, as well as public space (the square) and local ammenities (the creche). I think it's fairly sensible to assume that business in this area would be fine, after all it's not very far to Chetwynd Barracks business area (don't know the name) and that's a small business park forming. However, looking at the proposals, I would have thought that although it's good to have a mix - there's possibly not enough housing, because there really do look like a lot of business units, when this site would be perfect to put as many homes as is comfortable, especially with the tram (hopefully) ending up on their doorsteps. Good plans, though, nice to see that Brown Field sites are really getting transformed for new homes.
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Yeah I think your right oats.. only 100 new homes? It looks as though this will be primarily office development.
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It's a shame, I'm sure it would be just as good with a few more homes and little less office space - however, I guess whatever the outcome of this planning consent, will affect what happens at the Boots site (I'm right in thinking that Boots have sold off some land for new development??). If this gets passed with this amount of office space then perhaps Boots land will be primarily residential. It's only a gut instinct, but it feels like it would be more sensible the other way around, put new office buildings by the A52 and less homes, and more homes and less offices in congested chilwell/beeston. Though I suppose the tram's presence will have a good effect on this development whatever happens.

I'm working on the assumption that Chilwell/Beeston has a ceiling on how many new office buildings it can accomodate with regards demand - but I don't know much about these things, so I may be totally wrong!
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The Boots land won't be primarly residential however it will have a large proportion which is residential. Take a look at this.. there is a thread here...

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this is literally across the street from my parents house, so i know this place better than the back of my hand.

i kinda liked the look of it at first, particualarly the square and townhouses, which caught my eye - that's the right sort of residential building for the area. a square in the middle is brilliant, and of course the amenities (gym/creche) along high road is very good thinking.

i actually like the look of those office buildings, they seem very respectful. of course, i know they won't end up looking like that exactly - but it's the right idea. have to say i'm liking this so far.

the one thing is maybe there is too much office and not enuff resi......but yeah that genuinely looks like a well-thought-out piece of urban planning, and as a local in that area i would like to see that, or something very similar, go ahead.

dan, what you were saying abt the gateway building(s) may be true but the road they are facing (queens road west).....i dunno, i just don't think a really impressive building would work there really! something to seamlessly link it all together would be more appropriate.


quick question........where it says "offices/studios"........what does it mean by studios?
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I dont know Beeston at all.... I need to take a drive around there.

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quick question........where it says "offices/studios"........what does it mean by studios?
I'm assuming they're talking about flats? studio flats? I'm not sure though.
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That's what I thought.
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.......although......i dont like the idea of losing a lot of the buildings/shopfronts on high road. i like the atmosphere down there, nice and urban.
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What are the current buildings like? Old victorian factory type buildings?
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From todays EP:

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A Disused bus depot could be transformed into a £50m place to live, work and play.

And the Chilwell site would retain a link to its past by being christened 'Barton Quarter'.

Homes, offices, shops, bars, restaurants and a health and fitness centre would be built if the scheme for the former Barton Bus depot and offices, stretching between High Road and Queen's Road, is approved.

Apart from accommodating the Bartons headquarters, the 11-acre site has been largely vacant since 1989, when Trent took over the fleet.

The land is still owned by Bartons.

A planning application has been submitted to Broxtowe Borough Council and a public exhibition attracted more than 100 visitors, whose reaction was "unanimously positive," said Bartons managing director Simon Barton.

Comments ranged from "wonderful new vision" to "interesting to see thought and effort into making something aesthetically pleasing".

Building the 107 town houses and apartments, offices and leisure facilities, grouped around a square and large landscaped green, is expected to take five years and would create 700 jobs.

This week the old 1920s bus sheds were being demolished in readiness.

The developers have also come up with measures to reduce car usage.

Mr Barton said: "We want to create an outstanding new place.

"We propose a 'car club', and bike stands and facilities and will encourage new businesses to reduce car use."

It has taken two years to drew up the proposals, which incorporate solar panels, local energy generation, water conservation and roofs with plants on top to attract birds.

Beeston and District Civic Society has welcomed the initial plans and varied mix of buildings.

Vice-chairman Tony Krarup said: "It has been wanting to be redeveloped for some time.

"I think it should be given every encouragement."
The "Eco" side of this scheme makes it pretty exciting. So the planning application has been put through.
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What are the current buildings like? Old victorian factory type buildings?
yeah, small ones, plus a couple of pubs, ands small terraces with barbers shops and small businesses. this will be right accross high road from castle college chilwell campus (formally broxtowe college). it's a nice part of town down there, really. i hope this atmosphere is preserved, but if the scheme turns out even better, then great!

great to see people being so positive about the scheme as well. i really can't fault the plans on the basis of this thread.

NET phase 2 will also pass this scheme on High Road, then turn off and go through the lovely oasis of green between the college and my parent's house. that's my one and only gripe with NET. i hope this green bit gets replaced, and i'd rather it wasn't replaced in a designed, landscaped way - rather plant some trees somewhere and let nature do it's thing.
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Its not exactly the most exciting plan I have ever seen, but its progress for a suburb that generally stays pretty quiet and low key for Nottingham. Does anyone have any photographs of the site as it stands?
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