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Seeing as the last thread seems to have gone here is another...

The following shows the madness of spending money on roads to relief congestion instead of trams...

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/166/166225_bumper_business_chokes_the_roads.html

Bumper business chokes the roads
Yakub Qureshi


JAMS: early morning traffic on the A57TAMESIDE has the biggest traffic growth in the country, figures reveal today.

A congestion blacklist published by the Department of Transport showed there were 36 per cent more cars and lorries on Tameside roads than in 1997 - the biggest increase in England.

Two other Greater Manchester areas, Oldham, in second place with 32.4 per cent, and Bury, 18 per cent, also recorded some of the sharpest rises in congestion. Tameside, Oldham and Bury were all above the national increase of 11 per cent.

Transport groups said the findings confirmed their worst fears about congestion in the region and blamed the delay of the Metrolink extension for increasing traffic jams.

Traffic bosses said they believed the bulk of the increase was due to the addition of the M60 Denton to Middleton extension, which had brought more traffic to area.

Coun Alan Whitehead, Tameside's executive member for technical services, said: "When there are good connections more people will want to use them. Regeneration has seen a lot firms moving into Tameside.

"People want to come to the great workshops of Manchester, and developments in places like Glossop, High Peak and Saddleworth means there will be additional traffic coming through Tameside."

Congestion

He believed the planned Metrolink extension, which was promised in the government's election manifesto, would help ease congestion.

Andrew Shaw, co-ordinator of Friends of the Earth Oldham, said: "There has definitely been an increase of traffic. The M60 has brought an associated increase in traffic throughout the borough and people are travelling more between their homes and work.

"The government is throwing a lot of money at the road network at the same time that it has reneged on its promise for the new Metrolink to Oldham and Tameside."

The Liberal Democrats, who requested the information, which dates from when Labour came into government, said motorists should be charged for driving into urban areas.

Tom Brake MP, the party's transport spokesman, claimed London-style congestion fees would cut traffic and fund better public transport.

He said: "John Prescott infamously remarked that if the government did not reduce road traffic it would have failed. These figures are the clearest indicator that it has failed."
 
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#18,662 ·
Indeed, how often do people complain about journalistic quality levels at the MEN on here?

Then do their upmost to ensure funds to the paper are reduced as much as possible ensuring an ever declining standards.
I'm sure you're right about the legal side of this but in my view Manchester would be better off without the MEN anyway. It's no longer a local paper providing balanced views of local news so the sooner it dies the better.
 
#18,663 ·
Freel07 said:
I'm sure you're right about the legal side of this but in my view Manchester would be better off without the MEN anyway. It's no longer a local paper providing balanced views of local news so the sooner it dies the better.
Maybe the same could be said by fare dodgers on Metrolink given the perceived bad service levels they receive.
 
#18,669 ·
laser2k said:
I noticed that on 3013 (or was it 3031?) a couple of weeks ago. Maybe we've got years of door fun to be had with the M5000s.
As I've been inclined to believe for some time now, the doors are the worst thing about M5000s. Along with ill fitting internal plastics and the seats. Although action is being taken on those, and they are less important than doors that look like they're worn out after two years.
 
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apologiesforthedelay said:
They've not opened for me numerous times at Cornbrook, sometimes resulting in me having to get off at Deansgate-Castlefield. :bash:
Oh dear. It appears the problem is more common than suspected...

Would a passenger be within their rights to use the emergency release in this circumstance? Somobody once said to me that would be procedure for heavy rail if the train starts moving and your door hasn't been released.
 
#18,675 ·
Oh dear. It appears the problem is more common than suspected...

Would a passenger be within their rights to use the emergency release in this circumstance? Somobody once said to me that would be procedure for heavy rail if the train starts moving and your door hasn't been released.
Its not the procedure at all. Only reason its there is in case of emergency that threatens life such as fire. Pulling a passcom (passenger coms) is the way to deal with it.
 
#18,678 ·
Its not the procedure at all. Only reason its there is in case of emergency that threatens life such as fire. Pulling a passcom (passenger coms) is the way to deal with it.
In which case I misinterpreted that and that's what they told me. :nuts:

What would YOU do? I take it the consensus is (if you can't get to another door) nothing and ride to the next stop.

But then you could (small chance I know) be stopped by a PSR for travelling beyond the boundaries of your ticket!

1026 has certainly been coupled to 1023 for quite a while now and was certainly still in the old livery a couple of days ago.
I rode those today, definitely no new liveries there.
 
#18,679 ·
Has 1020 been took out of service? Ive not seen any signs of it for a while? Sorry if this has already been asked!
^^ 1020 tram was put out of service since last wednesday from is picture I found on flickr

Also 3005 and 3035 (unsure if 3035 tram been in service) are at old trafford depot too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesutcliffe/8164548549/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesutcliffe/8164579734/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesutcliffe/8164544765/in/photostream/

^^ Are them anyone off here that too them picture at Old Trafford depot?
 
#18,680 ·
Ended up at Cornbrook tonight at 9:30 by accident.

Couple of drug dealers on the platform, nailing JD. Bragging about their time in jail.

Hugely intimidating to the woman on the platform, alone.

Boarded same tram as myself southbound, not being nice to other passengers.

Forget your line names and numbers feeling safe from these idiots (3026) will be the important thing.
 
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