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Old May 10th, 2012, 04:57 AM   #1
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Do you believe that Cambodia will build tunnel below Tonle Sap River?

According to the news on Phnom Penh Post, Cambodia will plan to build a tunnel below the river. Do you think if it is feasible?
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It's feasible but needs lots of $$$. Below which river, can you paste the article here ?
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It's feasible but needs lots of $$$. Below which river, can you paste the article here ?
Online phnom penh post will be late in this afternoon. I just read its newspaper only. I will post it when it releases online
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សេចក្តី​ប្រកាស ដែលត្រូវបាន​គេចាត់ទុកថា ជា​របស់​មន្រ្តី​មូលដ្ឋានម្នាក់ ដែល​សុំ​មិន​បញ្ចេញ​ឈ្មោះនេះ ត្រូវបាន​គេ​បង្ហោះ​កាលពី​ថ្ងៃ​ពុធ នៅលើ​គេហទំព័រ​របស់​សាលា​រាជធានី​ភ្នំពេញ​។

សេចក្តី​ប្រកាសនេះ​បានសរសេរ​បន្តទៀត​ថា​៖ «​កំណើន​សេដ្ឋកិច្ច​ឆាប់រហ័ស របស់​កម្ពុជា បានធ្វើឲ្យ​រាជធានី​ភ្នំពេញ​មមាញឹក​ជាងមុន​។ រាជធានី​នៅពេល​បច្ចុប្បន្ននេះ មាន​ប្រជាជន​ជិត ២លាន​នាក់​។ បញ្ហា​ចរាចរណ៍ កំពុងតែ​ស្មុគស្មាញ​»​។

ខណៈ​ដែលមិនមាន​ការរៀបរាប់​លម្អិត​បន្ថែមទៀត លើការកំណត់​ការសាងសង់ ឬ​កម្រិត​នៃ​ការគូរប្លង់ ផ្លូវ​ក្រោមដី ដែល​ពុំធ្លាប់​មាននៅ​កម្ពុជា​នោះ គំនិតនេះ បានកើតមាន បន្ទាប់ពី​ផ្លូវចូល​ក្រុងផ្សេងៗទៀត ព្យាយាម​កាត់បន្ថយការ​កកស្ទះ​ចរាចរណ៍​តាមរយៈ​ការកសាង​ស្ពាន​អាកាស​។

កាលពី​ចុងខែ​មេសា គណៈ​ប្រតិភូ​រាជធានី​ភ្នំពេញ​មួយក្រុម បាន​ធ្វើដំណើរ​ទៅប្រទេស​វៀតណាម ហើយ​បាន​មើលផ្លូវក្រោមដី ដែលមាន ៦ ខ្សែ កាត់ពី​ក្រោមទន្លេសាយហ្គន ក្នុង​ទីក្រុងហូជីមិញ​។

ប្រធាន​មន្ទីរ​សាធារណៈ រាជធានី​ភ្នំពេញ លោក សំ ពិសិដ្ឋ បានថ្លែង​នៅពេលនោះថា ផ្លូវក្រោម​ទន្លេសាប នៅរាជធានី​ភ្នំពេញ អាចជា​ផ្លូវ​មួយ​ទៀត ដើម្បីកាត់បន្ថយ​ការកកស្ទះ​ចរាចរណ៍​។

រាជធានី​ភ្នំពេញ​បច្ចុប្បន្ន មានស្ពាន​អាកាស​ចំនួន​ពីរ មួយ​នៅក្បាលថ្នល់ ស្ថិតក្នុង​ខណ្ឌ​មានជ័យ និង​មួយទៀត​នៅក្បែរ​មន្ទីរពេទ្យ​លោក សង្ឃ ស្ថិតក្នុង​ខណ្ឌ​ទួលគោក ដែល​ស្ពានអាកាស​ទាំងពីរនេះ បានជួយកាត់​បន្ថយ​ស្ទើរតែ​ទាំងស្រុង នូវការកកស្ទះ​ចរាចរណ៍ ដែល​តែងតែ​កកស្ទះ​ជាប្រចាំ​នៅក្នុង​តំបន់​ទាំងពីរនេះ​។ សាលា​រាជធានី ក៏មាន​គម្រោងសាងសង់​ស្ពានអាកាស​បន្ថែមទៀត នៅតាមផ្លូវ​បំបែក​មួយចំនួនផងដែរ​៕
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Old May 10th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #5
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we dont we invest in more in securities and have university branches in every province rather than having these projects that look good on the outside
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #6
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a tunnel to Arey Khsat is better
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Old May 10th, 2012, 02:50 PM   #7
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a tunnel to Arey Khsat is better
I agreed with you... Its suppose to build for p-penh-Arey Khsat.
The 2nd Chroy Chong Va bridge is under construction....
But its can be possible also if (Sok Kong) want his new sokha hotel more closer... That's why our p-penh governor visited Saigon.... Who know its maybe sponsor by Sok Kong.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 06:53 AM   #8
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I can't say if it will be build, but it is a good infrastructure project to connect the east to the west and open the possibility to develop the east side of the lake.

Certainly better then the stupid 555m idea.
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I don't have a English version, but this is what I read
http://cambodia.sinchew-i.com/node/26323?tid=5


洞里薩河底闢隧道.可緩解交通堵塞


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2012-05-07 15:17

(柬埔寨.金邊)金邊市府計劃模仿胡志明市,建設一條橫穿洞里薩河的河底隧道。

一名金邊市府官員透露,為了緩解當前市內的交通問題,市府正計劃興建一條河底隧道。

他說,在位於棉芷區的第三座天橋和第一條地下隧道完工後,金邊市府將繼續開通我國歷史上第一條河底隧道,橫穿洞里薩河河底,以接連金邊市至水淨華東岸地帶。

他還說,針對興建河底隧道計劃,市長高竹德瑪上個月還率領技術代表團前往胡志明市,參觀當地橫穿西貢河河底的隧道。

他說,市長高竹德瑪希望金邊也能擁有一條河底隧道,以緩解金邊市交通阻塞問題。

他說,隨著國家經濟不斷往前發展,人民越來越富裕,交通阻塞問題也越來越嚴重,所以,金邊市府不斷的尋求解決對策。

據了解,越南第一條河底隧道是東南亞地區規模最大的跨河隧道,橫穿西貢河河底,隧道總長為1千490米,寬33.3米,總投資額為7千806萬美元。(柬埔寨星洲日報)
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The article say it is trying to do what HCN did, a tunnel 1490m, 33.3m wide, and cost 78 millions.

But it did not say how long our propose bridge is going to be.
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78 million sounds too cheap, if mekong bridge costs 300-400 millions
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It does sounds cheap, consider the 2nd Chroy Changvar Bridge cost $28m.
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This is the thread for the Vietnam tunnel, but is all in Vietnamese

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1459786
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This is the thread for the Vietnam tunnel, but is all in Vietnamese

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1459786
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Thu Thiem Tunnel is the most important section of the East-West highway project in HCMC. Built at a total cost of US$189 million provided by Japanese ODA, it has been constructed by a consortium of four Japanese contractors: Obayashi Corporation, Taisei Corporation, Kumagai-Kajima consortium and Toa Corporation.
http://www.qdnd.vn/qdndsite/en-us/75...1/Default.aspx

how can Tonle Sap River tunnel cheaper than thu thiem tunnel?
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I don't think this project will happen in at least 10 years.

Thu Thiem Tunnel is built after Ho Chi Minh City has developed the most modern boulevard - Vo Van Kiet Boulevard ( East- West Highway ). I don't think Phnom Penh will have a tunnel until the city's road system gets more developed.

Anyway, ThuThiem Tunnel is longer than this project. ThuThiem is a 2250m ( longest in SEAsia) so it's definitely more expensive.

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how can Tonle Sap River tunnel cheaper than thu thiem tunnel?
What makes you think Tonle Sap River tunnel is cheaper? No one has gave a price tag yet?
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Anyway, ThuThiem Tunnel is longer than this project. ThuThiem is a 2250m ( longest in SEAsia) so it's definitely more expensive.
How long is this project?
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How long is this project?
According to the speech of Governor on Bayon TV, this project is feasible but not now, we wait sometimes in future
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I don't think this project will happen in at least 10 years.

Thu Thiem Tunnel is built after Ho Chi Minh City has developed the most modern boulevard - Vo Van Kiet Boulevard ( East- West Highway ). I don't think Phnom Penh will have a tunnel until the city's road system gets more developed.
I don't think so, p-penh is very different with VN cities.
Cambodian never expected that we can have overpass anytime soon but now we got 2 and more will come...

Why need to wait until boulevard upgraded to modern or only modern cars only are allowed to use that boulevard?

What our governor plan to do, and doing is to solved the traffic problem, easy and fast.
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According to the speech of Governor on Bayon TV, this project is feasible but not now, we wait sometimes in future
I mean how long is this tunnel.
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