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Old March 4th, 2015, 01:28 PM   #16641
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I am for faster commuter rail for places like tumkur,ramnagara and places beyond 50km but not whitefield or the airport

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Whitefield cannot really be kept away from suburban rail, if at all the project is implemented, for it lies on the route connecting towns like Malur, Bangarpet and KGF to Bangalore. If the proposed line to Kolar is laid, it would see trains connecting Kolar as well.

As for the airport, we need not have suburban services in the usual sense. Depending on the demand, air conditioned trains with limited stops can be run from various points in the city like Majestic, Yeshwantpur and may be Anekal too (for Electronics City folks). But Indian Railways has a LONG way to go for all this to make sense; for starters they can provide some clarity on whether or not they plan to extend the Chikballapur line to the airport. Until then, I would only look forward to phase 3 of the metro for mass rapid transport connectivity to the airport.
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Old March 4th, 2015, 02:06 PM   #16642
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After hubli ankola the dependence on londa vasco will reduce drastically...also tadri port will get much needed boost
This line will also help hubli connect to mlore and also cargo can be moved from NMPT instead of goa ports
while comparing hubli-ankola and mangalore shimogga lines,we could get mangalore-shimogga line as more usefull..bz,,shimogga-mangalore line qill connect MPT with the whole central and north karnataka..and it ll be a major trunk route between hyderabad and mangalore after the completion of shimogga-harihar-kottur ,and munirabad-raichur-mehbubnagar lines...
on the other hand, hubli-ankola line connects mangalore with north karnataka but not with central karnataka......
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Old March 5th, 2015, 06:35 AM   #16643
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Ankola-Hubballi Railway line not in budget again

Karwar: The long pending demand of the people of north and coastal Karnataka, for an Ankola-Hubballi railway line, has remained unfulfilled.

It was expected that the railway budget would include a proposal to get environmental clearance and get the stay vacated in the Supreme Court. Some environmentalists opine that getting the clearance is impossible.

The project has not materialized for the past 62 years and is significant as it connects the north and coastal parts of the state. The Railway Board approved the project in 1996.

From Hubballi, the route is via Mishrikoti, Kalghatgi, Kirwatti, Yellapur, Kanjimani, Ramanaguli, Honnalli, Navagadde and Ankola, a distance of 168 km.

The work began in 2001 by laying 45 km of track at a cost of Rs70 crore. President of the Karnataka Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Hubballi Vasant Ladawa told said due to certain 'unscientific' reasons, some 'environmentalists' objected to the project.

Now, everybody is favoring the project which is economically viable.

The Mangalore Port Trust opined that if this project is implemented, the export will increase by 40 per cent, he added.

Ladawa alleged that the 'unscientific' report of the Forest and Environment Department without any proper survey on the loss of forest, is also one of the reasons the project was deferred.

The Railway Authority submitted a revised report mentioning the minimum loss of the forest and a committee headed by T V Ramachandra of Indian Institute of Science is said to have favored the project.

Minister of State for Environment, Forest and Climate Change Prakash Javadekar made it clear in the Rajya Sabha in December that the project does not require environmental clearance under the Environment Impact Assessment Notification, 2006.

However, some environmentalists opine that it is impossible to get clearance as the Forest Department is sticking to its stand. The railways want 80 metres corridor along NH-63 for the project.

The NHAI is also demanding 80 feet area along the NH for the road widening. The Forest Department is not providing the land as the project will affect wildlife.

There are at least two known elephant corridors that crisscrosses the proposed railway line and the highway expansion project.

If the railway line is cleared, the days are not far when elephants getting killed by railway engines will become a common phenomenon.


The project has not materialized for the past 62 years. The project is significant as it connects the north and coastal parts of the state. The Railway Board had approved it in 1996.

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Old March 5th, 2015, 06:46 AM   #16644
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The one project that would really help Karnataka's port connectivity is the doubling of the Sakleshpur-Mangalore line. All the other proposed new line projects will not take off due to environmental issues and it is not desirable to cause more damage to the Western Ghats.

This line already exists as single track, so adding a second line will not cause too much damage and it will not require additional environmental clearances.

Once this line is doubled, our biggest port (NMPT) will have double line connectivity from the hinterland. HMRDC's objections will also be taken care of. The upcoming Bangalore-Hassan NL will provide connectivity from Bangalore while Chikmagalur-Sakleshpur NL will provide connectivity from NK.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 07:10 AM   #16645
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But the line has sharp curves, making it one of the biggest challenges to double and enhance its capacity
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Agreed. But HMRDC has experience of construction in this terrain. If enough funds are provided, I think it should not be a problem.

In Feb 2013, the line utilisation of Sakleshpur-Subramanya Road (ghat section) was 76%, which rose to 79% in Feb 2014 (despite the absence of iron ore traffic). This is only bound to increase in future, so they should not wait for it to reach saturation point but start work asap.
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Agreed. But HMRDC has experience of construction in this terrain. If enough funds are provided, I think it should not be a problem.

In Feb 2013, the line utilisation of Sakleshpur-Subramanya Road (ghat section) was 76%, which rose to 79% in Feb 2014 (despite the absence of iron ore traffic). This is only bound to increase in future, so they should not wait for it to reach saturation point but start work asap.
if mangalore region is going to b under KRCL,,the line till sakleshpur should be under KR...by merging HMRDC with it...thus KR could improve the strech ,since ,KR has better experience than that of blody HMRDC in constuction of lines on such terrain...
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while comparing hubli-ankola and mangalore shimogga lines,we could get mangalore-shimogga line as more usefull..bz,,shimogga-mangalore line qill connect MPT with the whole central and north karnataka..and it ll be a major trunk route between hyderabad and mangalore after the completion of shimogga-harihar-kottur ,and munirabad-raichur-mehbubnagar lines...
on the other hand, hubli-ankola line connects mangalore with north karnataka but not with central karnataka......

The reason why the survey of Talguppa-Siddapur rail line has been undertaken is to cater to the above connection of Shimoga-Mangalore. The plan is to connect Talguppa and Siddapur first then extend the line from Siddapur to Kumta. As the forest in this part(Siddapur to Kumta) has been degraded by the kings themselves, there would be not much loss of flora and founa.
Also, a line from Hubli to Siddapur via Sirsi could be laid to connect Hubli with Mangalore.
Thus North Karnataka would be connected coastal Karnataka via this Hubli-Siddapur-Kumta line.
Central Karnataka with Harihar-Shimoga-Siddapur-Kumta line.
South Karnataka with Arisikere-Shimoga-Siddapur-Kumta line.

This plan was suggested to former RM Sadananda Gowda by a person from Uttara Kannada district and he accepted to survey for viability of Talaguppa-Siddapur line.

Please note here the idea for such inclusive connectivity to all came from people and not from SWR officials.
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while comparing hubli-ankola and mangalore shimogga lines,we could get mangalore-shimogga line as more usefull..bz,,shimogga-mangalore line qill connect MPT with the whole central and north karnataka..and it ll be a major trunk route between hyderabad and mangalore after the completion of shimogga-harihar-kottur ,and munirabad-raichur-mehbubnagar lines...
on the other hand, hubli-ankola line connects mangalore with north karnataka but not with central karnataka......
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I am for faster commuter rail for places like tumkur,ramnagara and places beyond 50km but not whitefield or the airport

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Kolkata circular railway was extended to Airport inspite of metro being extended from Dum Dum till Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport. In july 2006 circular EMU trains were started and till date Kolkata metro to airport is stuck in red tape. Most passengers to airport use EMU trains rather than other mode of transport. Built for Eastern Railway by Kolkata Metro Rail Corp, the electrified single track branch is 3·8 km long, with 2·8 km on viaduct to avoid road crossings at the urban end of the route. Land for the project was provided by the Airport Authority of India and Jessop Ordnance Factory.
Same way an elevated single track can be laid between Devanahalli interchange till KIA airport building. EMU trains can run the same way, kolkata local trains run till airport. Let metro link be there till airport but when and how long it will take is a big question mark. We already have tracks till the interchange of airport. Whats stopping our govt to build a elevated single line for a short distance. Sadly, all have been fighting since years what has to be built, a high speed metro or an ordinary metro for KIA, truth is nothing is coming up for next ten years atleast.
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Don't be do pessimistic. Bangalore will see a lot of Metro action
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Don't be do pessimistic. Bangalore will see a lot of Metro action
Its not being pessimistic, why our thinking is stuck with what has not even started. Bangalore metro had started the work in year 2006 and its 2015 we are no where near completion of phase 1. Soil testing was done long back and they knew well that chickpet has rocky under surface, engineers here are so dud that they had no idea what will they encounter when they will dig the tunnel at chickpet area. What is easy and more achievable should be tried first, like building a connecting commuter line to airport. Sleepy government is waiting for metro to reach till KIA, in its dreams probably.
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Former Rail Minister Kharge express dismay over paltry allocation of funds to Gulbarga Divisional HQrs
Gulbarga (GR): The former Railway Minister M. Mallikarjun Kharge has expressed his dismay over the paltry allocation to the Gulbarga Railway Divisional Headquarters in Kalaburagi and said that he had taken up the issue personally with the Railway Minister Suresh Prabhu and pleaded for higher allocation.

Mr. Kharge, who is also the leader of the Congress party in the Lok Sabha, said that the Railway Minister had assured him that the demand for higher allocation for the Gulbarga Division would be considered sympathetically and a decision would be taken soon.

In the Railway Budget, a token allocation of Rs. 46 lakh has been made to augment the infrastructure facilities in Kalaburagi under the Solapur division.

Mr. Kharge said that the Railway Minister should provide the additional funds exclusively for the Gulbarga Railway Division under the South Western Railway. As the Railway Minister, Mr. Kharge had sanctioned new railway divisions to Gulbarga, Udhampur in Jammu and Kashmir and Silchar in Assam.

Mr. Prabhu had only made token allocation for all the three new divisions. Mr. Kharge as the Railway Minister had made a provision of Rs. 5 crore to the Gulbarga Railway Division.

Mr. Kharge said that he had also urged Mr. Prabhu to provide more funds for rail coach building factories in Yadgir and Kolar, which were sanctioned when he was the Railway Minister.

While Rail Coach Building Factory at Yadgir has been provided a sum of Rs. 5 crore, only a token allocation has been made for the Kolar Coach building factory.

Mr. Kharge had made a provision of Rs. 65 crore for the Yadgir coach building factory and entrusted the work to Rail Vikas Nigam Ltd (RVNL).

“The RVNL should be asked to hasten the process of construction and the funds allocated for the project should not be allowed to be diverted to other projects,” he said.

He said that Mr. Prabhu had also made an allocation of Rs. 20 crore for the Gadag-Wadi new railway line and the State government should chip in with its promised share to the project and also start the land acquisition process immediately to enable the railways to take up the work of laying the railway line immediately.

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ಬಹುದಿನದ ಬೇಡಿಕೆಯಾದ ತುಮಕೂರು-ಅರಸೀಕೆರೆ ನಡುವೆ 96 ಕಿ.ಮೀ ಉದ್ದದ ದ್ವಿಪಥ ರೈಲು ಮಾರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ತಮ್ಮ ಕೋರಿಕೆಯನ್ನು ಪರಿಗಣಿಸಿ ಕೇಂದ್ರ ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಸಚಿವ ಸುರೇಶ್*ಪ್ರಭು ಹೊಸ ದ್ವಿಪಥ ಮಾರ್ಗ ಘೋಷಿಸಿ 21.95ಕೋಟಿ ಆರಂಭಿಕ ಅನುದಾನವನ್ನು ಮಂಜೂರು ಮಾಡಿರುವುದಕ್ಕೆ ಕೃತಜ್ಞತೆ ಸಲ್ಲಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ ಎಂದ ಸಂಸದರು, ಯೋಜನೆ ಪೂರ್ಣ ಅನುಷ್ಠಾನಕ್ಕೆ 500 ಕೋಟಿಗೂ ಅಧಿಕ ಅನುದಾನ ಬೇಕಿದ್ದು, ಹಾಲಿ ಮಂಜೂರು ಮಾಡಿರುವ ಅನುದಾನದಲ್ಲಿ ಕೆಲವೇ ದಿನಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಅಂತಿಮ ಕ್ಷೇತ್ರ ಸರ್ವೆ ಆರಂಭವಾಗಲಿದೆ. ದ್ವಿಪಥ ಮಾರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ಅಗತ್ಯವಾದ ಭೂಮಿ ಈಗಾಗಲೇ ಇಲಾಖೆ ಬಳಿಯಿದ್ದು, ತ್ವರಿತ ವಾಗಿ ಕಾಮಗಾರಿ ಅನುಷ್ಟಾನಗೊಳ್ಳುವ ವಿಶ್ವಾಸ ವ್ಯಕ್ತಪಡಿಸಿದರು.

ತುಮಕೂರು-ಅರಸೀಕೆರೆ ನಡುವೆ ದ್ವಿಪಥ ಮಾರ್ಗ ಮಾತ್ರವಲ್ಲದೆ ಗುಬ್ಬಿ ರೈಲ್ವೆ ನಿಲ್ದಾಣದ ಆಧುನಿಕರಣ ಕಾಮಗಾರಿ, ಕ್ಯಾತ್ಸಂದ್ರ-ತುಮಕೂರು ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಹಳಿಯ ಲೆವೆಲ್ ಕ್ರಾಸಿಂಗ್ 40-41 ರ ಬಳಿ ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಮೇಲ್ಸೇತುವೆ ಹಾಗೂ ಕರಡಿ, ತಿಪಟೂರು ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಲೆವೆಲ್ ಕ್ರಾಸಿಂಗ್ ಬಳಿ ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಅಂಡರ್*ಪಾಸ್, ಪಾದಚಾರಿ ಸಬ್*ವೇಗಳ ನಿರ್ಮಾಣಕ್ಕೂ ಬಜೆಟ್*ನಲ್ಲಿ ಅನುಮೋದನೆ ನೀಡಲಾಗಿದೆ. ಈ ಸಾಲಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಮಂಜೂರಾದ ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಯೋಜನೆ ಗಳೆಲ್ಲ ಹೊಸ ಯೋಜನೆಗಳಾಗಿದ್ದು, ಯಾವುದು ಹಳೆಯದಲ್ಲ ಎಂದು ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆಯೊಂದಕ್ಕೆ ಸ್ಪಷ್ಟಪಡಿಸಿದರು.

ಸಂಸತ್ ಅಧಿವೇಶನದ ಬಳಿಕ ರೈತರ ಸಭೆ: ವಿಳಂಬಗತಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಸಾಗಿದ್ದ ತುಮಕೂರು-ದಾವಣಗೆರೆ ರೈಲು ಮಾರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ತಾವೂ ಚಿತ್ರದುರ್ಗ, ದಾವಣಗೆರೆ ಸಂಸದರು ಒಟ್ಟಾಗಿ ಒತ್ತಾಯ ಮಾಡಿದ ಹಿನ್ನೆಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಈ ಬಾರಿ ಬಜೆಟ್*ನಲ್ಲಿ ಇಲಾಖೆಯ ಮೂಲ ಬಂಡವಾಳ 14.9 ಕೋಟಿ, ಖಾಸಗಿ-ಸಾರ್ವಜನಿಕ ಸಹಭಾಗಿ ವಲಯದಿಂದ 25 ಕೋಟಿ, ಎಕ್ಸ್*ಟರ್ನಲ್ ಬಾರೋ ಯಿಂಗ್ ರಿಸೊರ್ಸ್ ಇನ್*ವೆಸ್ಟ್*ಮೆಂಟ್ ಫಡಿಂಗ್*ನಿಂದ 100 ಕೋಟಿ ಸೇರಿ 139 ಕೋಟಿ ಅನುದಾನ ಮಂಜೂರು ಮಾಡ ಲಾಗಿದೆ. ಅಂತೆಯೇ ತುಮಕೂರು-ರಾಯದುರ್ಗ ರೈಲು ಮಾರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ಮೂಲ ಬಂಡವಾಳ 15ಕೋಟಿ, ಖಾಸಗಿ ಸಹ ಭಾಗಿತ್ವದ ಹೂಡಿಕೆ 10ಕೋಟಿ, 100ಕೋಟಿ ಇಬಿಆರ್*ಐಎಫ್ ಅನುದಾನವನ್ನು ಮೀಸಲಿಡಲಾಗಿದೆ. ಈ ಎರಡು ಪ್ರಮುಖ ರೈಲು ಮಾರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ಭೂಸ್ವಾಧೀನ ಮಾಡಿ ಭೂಮಿ ಕೊಡುವ ಹೊಣೆ ರಾಜ್ಯ ಸರಕಾರದ್ದಾಗಿದ್ದು, ಗಣಿ ಬಾಧಿತ ಪ್ರದೇಶಗಳ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿ ಮೀಸಲಾದ 3800 ಕೋಟಿ ಅನುದಾನವನ್ನು ಬಳಸಿಕೊಂಡು ಶೀಘ್ರ ಸ್ವಾಧೀನ ಪ್ರಕ್ರಿಯೆ ಪೂರ್ಣಗೊಳಿಸಿಕೊಡಬೇಕೆಂದು ಮುಖ್ಯಮಂತ್ರಿಯನ್ನು ಮೂರು ಜಿಲ್ಲೆ ಸಂಸದರು ಭೇಟಿ ಮಾಡಿ ಮನವಿ ಮಾಡಲಿದ್ದೇವೆ ಎಂದರು.

ತುಮಕೂರು-ರಾಯದುರ್ಗ ರೈಲು ಯೋಜನೆ ತ್ವರಿತ ಅನುಷ್ಠಾನಕ್ಕೆ ಸಂಬಂಧಿಸಿದಂತೆ ಸಂಸತ್ ಅಧಿವೇಶನ ಮುಗಿದ ಕೂಡಲೇ ಚಿತ್ರದುರ್ಗ ಸಂಸದರನ್ನು ಸೇರಿಸಿಕೊಂಡು ಕೊರಟಗೆರೆ, ಮಧುಗಿರಿ, ಪಾವಗಡ ಭಾಗದಲ್ಲಿ ರೈತರ ಸಭೆ ನಡೆಸುವುದಾಗಿ ತಿಳಿಸಿದ ಮುದ್ದಹನುಮೇಗೌಡರು ರೈಲ್ವೆ ಮಾರ್ಗ ಬಂದರೆ ಗ್ರಾಮೀಣ ಭಾಗದ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿಗೆ ಸಹಕಾರಿಯಾಗಲಿದೆ ಎಂದರು.
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BENGALURU - HASAN NEW RAILWAY LINE

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Now Bangalore - Guntakal - Hubli will be electrified before Bangalore - Mysore ???

Hospet - Hubli -Vasco Degama ( 346 Kms ) railway electrification sanctioned at the cost of Rs 465 Crore but funds allocated is just One thousand only. This is how funds are allocated while sanctioning the projects. Same time Central part India railway electrification has got maximum amount sanctioned , which is good one. Delhi - Ahmadabad via Palanpur and Rewari has got first installment of Rs 200 Crore, guess why such big funds allocation. That's why Railway Minister kept quite in showing projects sanctioned in railway budget speech. Same thing will happen in train announcement too in few days. I feel Karnataka has got raw deal in this railway budget except the doubling funds allocation.
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