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Old August 13th, 2017, 01:47 PM   #821
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Old August 13th, 2017, 09:16 PM   #822
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Trains not include in the build as such, but are part of the overall cost of the up grade to this area of Public transport. Therefore should be taken into account when discussing the costs.
I always thought when the network was electrified they bought enough new trains to cover the fleet size needed for the CRL, what they didn't buy was enough trains to cover additional electrification to Pukekohe.
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I always thought when the network was electrified they bought enough new trains to cover the fleet size needed for the CRL, what they didn't buy was enough trains to cover additional electrification to Pukekohe.
No, we bought enough for what we thought would be needed prior to the CRL, remembering that at the time they were ordered there was no guarantee that the CRL would ever be built. But even that didn't turn out to be enough which is why we're buying a heap more now.
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Old August 14th, 2017, 10:06 AM   #824
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15 buses require chassis re welded as they have snapped

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Old August 14th, 2017, 12:38 PM   #825
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No, we bought enough for what we thought would be needed prior to the CRL, remembering that at the time they were ordered there was no guarantee that the CRL would ever be built. But even that didn't turn out to be enough which is why we're buying a heap more now.
I wouldn't call 17 a heap more and from what I've read they thinking about purchasing battery electric hybrids specifically for Papakura - Pukekohe, which also looks in doubt if the govt stump up for full electrification.
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Old August 15th, 2017, 08:48 AM   #826
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I wouldn't call 17 a heap more and from what I've read they thinking about purchasing battery electric hybrids specifically for Papakura - Pukekohe, which also looks in doubt if the govt stump up for full electrification.
Well it's a 30% increase in the number of trains so not insignificant.

Yes they're looking at battery trains for servicing Pukekohe however 15 more trains are needed anyway to bolster existing services by making them all 6-car trains. At this stage it electrification isn't likely to be finished till 2025/26. We can't wait that long with the current situation
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Well it's a 30% increase in the number of trains so not insignificant.

Yes they're looking at battery trains for servicing Pukekohe however 15 more trains are needed anyway to bolster existing services by making them all 6-car trains. At this stage it electrification isn't likely to be finished till 2025/26. We can't wait that long with the current situation
Pity you would have to wait that long. The case for electrifying to Pukekohe would be robust and fairly predictable in costs given recent experience with the rest of the network. Getting back towards Kumeu would be the more relevant for batteries, but then keeping a railcar would make more sense for that.
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Pity you would have to wait that long. The case for electrifying to Pukekohe would be robust and fairly predictable in costs given recent experience with the rest of the network. Getting back towards Kumeu would be the more relevant for batteries, but then keeping a railcar would make more sense for that.
It's estimated at a 4-5 year build as they haven't even started consenting process yet. One of the major challenges is that they have to lift one of the motorway bridges at Drury to enable it so that isn't going to be quick or easy.

As for Kumeu, there are issues with getting through the tunnel and more importantly, it's such an out of the way journey it is unlikely to attract much usage.
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