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Old December 30th, 2009, 10:52 AM   #1
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Newcastle and the North East - PUBS, the Buildings and the Venues

Been thinking that we should we create a thread on 'Pubs in Newcastle', so that we can discuss good/bad watering holes.

Last night I went to the Millstone pub in South Gosforth (after having to leave Odeon Metrocentre, as Avatar was completely sold out). Anyway, decided to go there as I have always thought it looks like a nice cosy pub and have always wanted to drop in on many a night whilst driving past on the way home.

Firstly the selection of drinks was rubbish but what infuriated me even more was the complete lack of custromer service! I actually had to ask to get served as the two bar staff were in the middle of a wordsearch at the bar!! When I did get served it was like I was an inconvenience to them, this happened several times as me/my mate went to the bar!Such a shame really as its a great pub inside which could be a great little boozer!

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Old December 30th, 2009, 02:08 PM   #2
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Years ago the Millstone was run by a French guy and it did good food, had a great selection of wine (as you'd expect) and had a real inmdividual atmosphere. Then the tenancy changed and S&N did it out in the usual off-the-peg fake mahogany and brass, and it became like any other bland pub anywhere. I'm not surprised at what you found, Kieron. The big pubcos just don't seem to care any more.
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Old December 30th, 2009, 02:40 PM   #3
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Got me thinking should we create a thread on 'Pubs in Newcastle'?So we can discuss good/bad watering holes.
I'd second that! It would combine two things dear to my heart i.e. architecture and beer.

There some great pubs in great buildings in Newcastle - The Crown Posada, The Central, The Bodega, The Cluny etc. CAMRA has a heritage regsiter (?) which reflects the quality of some of these pubs.

This could even lead to discussion on the view from the Free Trade

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Old December 31st, 2009, 03:44 PM   #4
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I went to the Central in Gateshead last night. The building is still shrouded in scaffolding but it's open for trade. A decent selection of four real ales and one real cider (and plenty of bottles) as you'd expect from the Head of Steam chain - the bar itself had been repainted but was still pretty basic - wood floor, simple benches and tables - just what one needs. Upstaits hadn't been touched yet: an odd mix of huge and elaborate wooden doorcases and dioors, and all the walls and ceilings dfone out in artex. Very 70s! The upstairs is going to be turned inot (I think) performance space/function room, and there will be an outdoor beer garden/terrace to one side. All very promising, and a nice (if a bit brass monkeys) walk to and from across the High Level.
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Old December 31st, 2009, 04:27 PM   #5
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I thought it would have been closed until the refurb was complete. I think I'll hold off before going for a visit myself.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:35 AM   #6
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Scottish & Newcastle Inns.
Matchbox Labels, Sheet 1.

Do any of you remember when all "boxes of matches" sold in S & N Pubs, had a PHOTO of one of the S & N Pubs on them?

These are those matchbox labels . . .



01 – BEEHIVE
Mile End Road, South Shields.

02 – SCROGG INN
125 Scrogg Road, Walker, Newcastle, NE6.

03 – BEACON
Beacon Lough, Gateshead.

04 – ROSE & CROWN
491/493 Prince Edward Road, South Shields.

05 – BROADWAY
Broadway, North Shields.

06 – FALCON
Hilda Park Estate, Chester le Street.

07 – GREY HEN
141 Temple Park Road, South Shields.

08 – BLACK SWAN
Shields Road, Morpeth.

09 – HAMILTON RUSSELL ARMS
Thorpe Thewles, Stockton.

10 – SEVEN STARS
27 High Street, Wrekenton.

11 – JOHN GILPIN
Burnside, West Denton, Newcastle, NE5.

12 – FOUNTAIN
116 Highfield Road, South Shields.

13 – KELLY
Hedgeley Road, Hebburn.

14 – ROBIN HOOD
Murton Village, Newcastle NE27.

15 – BEDLINGTON TERRIER
Stead Lane, Bedlington.

16 – SOUTHERN CROSS
Dixons Bank, Marton in Cleveland, Middlesbrough.

17 – DUKE OF EDINBURGH
6 Moor Street, Newcastle, NE4.

18 – HONEST BOY
Blackfell Village Centre, Blackfell, Washington.

19 – JOHNNY MILLER
774 Durham Road, Low Fell.

20 – DOCTOR SYNTAX
New Ridley, Stocksfield.

21 – THREE MILE INN
Great North Road, Gosforth, Newcastle NE3.

22 – GREY HORSE
Mill Lane, Whitburn, Sunderland.

23 – CAULD LAD
Caithness Road, Hylton Castle Estate, Sunderland.

24 – THE SHIP
147 Sunderland Road, Harton, South Shields.

25 – COLLINGWOOD ARMS
2 Front Street, Chirton, North Shields.




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Old January 7th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #7
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Fantastic find, NH!
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Old January 7th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #8
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Fantastic find, NH!
I have some more!

Does anyone recognise some of these pubs?


Scottish & Newcastle Inns.
Matchbox Labels, Sheet 2.





26 – CORNER HOUSE
Heaton Road, Heaton, Newcastle, NE6.

27 – TURBINIA
Fossway, Walker, Newcastle, NE6.

28 – MUSKETEER
Great Lime Road, Forest Hall, Newcastle, NE12.

29 – KINGS ARMS
Seaton Sluice, Tyne & Wear.

30 – COUNTY HOTEL
Aycliffe, Darlington.

31 – FARMERS REST
Haymarket, Newcastle, NE1.

32 – WAVENDON
Wavendon Crescent, Sunderland.

33 – THE CLIFF
Mere Knolls Road, Sunderland.

34 – SEA HORSE
Plessey Road, Blyth.

35 – RED LION
Plawsworth, Chester le Street.

36 – HONEYSUCKLE
92 Coatsworth Road, Gateshead.

37 – BAY HORSE
Front Street, Whickham.

38 – BARLEY MOW
East Street, Gateshead.

39 – BALLOON
Silver Lonnen, Fenham, Newcastle, NE5.

40 – NEW CROWN HOTEL
Mowbray Road, South Shields.

41 – FOX & HOUNDS
West Road, Newcastle, NE5.

42 – MARINERS
Mortimer Road, South Shields.

43 – HUNTSMAN
Loup Farm, Blaydon Bank, Tyne & Wear.

44 – CAVALIER
Silksworth Close, Sunderland.

45 – SHERATON
Hardwick Road, Stockton.

46 – MARINE
230/232 Ocean Road, South Shields.

47 – RAILWAY TAVERN
Station Road, Cramlington.

48 – BRIGANTINE
Ferry Street, South Shields.

49 – NORWOOD
Malvern Gardens, Lobley Hill, Gateshead.

50 – ASTRONAUT
Town Centre, West Precinct, Billingham.



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Old January 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM   #9
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The Corner House and the Musketeer are the only ones I recognise. Some of them look like right dives!
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Old January 7th, 2010, 02:05 PM   #10
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The Corner House and the Musketeer are the only ones I recognise. Some of them look like right dives!
The Farmers Rest in the Haymarket anyone?

Actually, this has just occurred to me, but I wonder if a lot of the pubs are recognisable (from the matchbox label photos) but their
NAMES HAVE CHANGED?


Or, perhaps they are no longer there?

I bet there's a fair few, in both categories!!



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Old January 7th, 2010, 03:15 PM   #11
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While the PHOTOS and the PUB NAMES can be seen clearly, I think it is very difficult to make out the addresses/locations of some of them.

So, I will LIST all of the addresses/locations below the 'matchbox labels' in the same order, left to right along each row then down, as they are shown.

Please bear with me, as this may take some time to do!!
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Old January 7th, 2010, 04:46 PM   #12
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the huntsman in blaydon is still around and still looks just like that, ie, not very nice.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 06:33 PM   #13
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Farmers Rest = Old Orleans?

Whenever people talk about disused pubs I always think of those along the river in South Tyneside (mainly towards South Shields). I spent several months working in the South Tyneside area and spent most of the day driving around, looking at sites. There are some stunning old pub buildings near the shipyards which are now just sat rotting. It really is tragic, but unless they're converted or somehow dragged back into commercial use I do think we'll see a lot of them disappear.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 06:44 PM   #14
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Farmers Rest = Old Orleans?
In some respects YES . . but actually, NO!!

There wasn't a pub where 'Old Orleans' is, until the new Bus Station/Marks & Spencer extension was built. But, at the other end of the Haymarket Bus Station (the previous incarnation) where you turn the corner to go down to the back of the old Marks/pick-up point bit, there was a pub there (on that corner).

That was the Farmers Rest. I remember going in there a lot. Certainly a lot more often than I remember coming out!

So, in a way, the Old Orleans replaced the Farmers Rest.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 06:57 PM   #15
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Looks like a bit of a poor swap...
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Old January 7th, 2010, 07:05 PM   #16
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The Corner House and the Musketeer are the only ones I recognise. Some of them look like right dives!
Ditto.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 07:22 PM   #17
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Looks like a bit of a poor swap...
Yes, the Farmers was a good laugh, whereas Old Orleans just isn't much at all, in my opinion.
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Okay, I'm asking again, for those of you who have not put across your views. Should this thread stay as it is?, or should it be split into 2, 1 for eating in Newcastle and 1 for the pubs/bars of Newcastle?
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Old January 7th, 2010, 08:17 PM   #19
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we lost the farmers,the plough and the haymarket and got the utter gash that is old orleans possibly in the worst five pubs in the city centre. other great pubs lost at a similar time were the portland,burton house, city tavern, broken doll, the adelaide etc etc.while the m/s extension was very welcome the architecture of this and the bus station has to make it visually and functionally one of the worst developments in recent years.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 08:21 PM   #20
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we lost the farmers,the plough and the haymarket and got the utter gash that is old orleans possibly in the worst five pubs in the city centre. other great pubs lost at a similar time were the portland, burton house, city tavern, broken doll, the adelaide etc etc.while the m/s extension was very welcome the architecture of this and the bus station has to make it visually and functionally one of the worst developments in recent years.
VERY interesting that you should just write the above, as only earlier today I wrote a post on the Historic Newcastle thread, actually about the fabulous Portland and Burton House!!

SEE - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=523
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