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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #101
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It was mentioned in a thread the other week that the People's Theatre Company took over their present property which was a redundant cinema. So at that junction there was the Corner House Hotel and a cinema and their had to be a lot more around.

Did the building of the Coast Road roundabout take out a street of shops?
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At the Heaton Road/Newton Road junction with the Coast Road (where the Corner House is) I do not remember any shops being demolished when the 'new Coast Road' was built.

The main 'sunken' Dual Carriagway stretch of road (from the Coast) came to an end just a short way east of this junction, though the existing surface road was widened with a 'central reservation' a short way westwards (towards the City Centre) past that junction.

There was some demolition to achieve this widening, on the north side of that stretch of Coast Road, and a row of houses (not shops) was demolished, and (in fact) you can still see the concrete 'council house style' garden walls of those houses remaining in parts, with only trees and other landscaping behind them.

The next junction to the east, the junction of the Coast Road with Benton Road/Chillingham Road, is where the big roundabout is, that you are referring to I think.

On that one, there was no demolitions (this time) to the North of the Coast Road, so all of those shops remained (the 'north side' junction with Benton Road) and I only remember houses being removed on the south side - though there may have been some corner shops there.

This photo shows that roundabout under construction in the early 1960s . . .


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Here is what this roundabout on the Coast Road (junction with Benton Road looking North) used to look like before the (shown above) new enlarged roundabout was constructed in the early 1960s.

This photo is from (not long before that) in 1957 . .


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Old November 6th, 2011, 08:12 AM   #102
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The cars at the bottom left may be from the car show room that was demolished. The houses on the left look like part of the High Heaton estate.
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Old November 6th, 2011, 10:46 AM   #103
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The cars at the bottom left may be from the car show room that was demolished. The houses on the left look like part of the High Heaton estate.
In the 1959 Kelly's the car showroom's are the premises of J.T. Coats - Motor Car Agents 463/465 Chillingham Road and on the opposite side of Chillingham Road was Chillingham Motor Ltd @ 406/416.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 01:30 PM   #104
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Traffic jams on A1 Western bypass costing us jobs, homes and cash
by Adrian Pearson, The Journal, November 8th 2011


THE full cost of failing to invest in the A1 Western bypass is revealed today as ministers have been sent evidence detailing how the A1 Western bypass from Lobley Hill to the A184 Askew Road is the nation’s third most congested route, beaten only by the M25 toll road crossings of the Thames. Despite the 123,400 vehicles using the Western bypass every day – seeing the road operate at three times its maximum capacity – it has repeatedly failed to attract investment.

Mike Penning, the minister responsible for England’s most important roads, has been told it is unacceptable that cash is made available to upgrade less busy parts of the M25 in London while the region is held back because of its most notorious route.

In a clear warning of the cost to the region in not backing Western bypass improvements, Mr Kelly replied to the minister saying: “Congestion problems on the A1 also threaten the ability to achieve the identified need for significant growth in the supply of housing in the corridor. This is seen as a major constraint in bringing forward a number of major sites, including a possible development area for 3,000 homes on land close to the Metrocentre.

The long-term aim for the road is to have a relief road built running parallel to the A1 from Lobley Hill to the A184 to take local traffic off the A1 between two closely spaced junctions. Transport bosses on Tyneside also propose closing the A1 northbound exit at the Dunston junction.


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Old November 8th, 2011, 04:53 PM   #105
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Traffic jams on A1 Western bypass costing us jobs, homes and cash
by Adrian Pearson, The Journal, November 8th 2011


THE full cost of failing to invest in the A1 Western bypass is revealed today as ministers have been sent evidence detailing how the A1 Western bypass from Lobley Hill to the A184 Askew Road is the nation’s third most congested route, beaten only by the M25 toll road crossings of the Thames. Despite the 123,400 vehicles using the Western bypass every day – seeing the road operate at three times its maximum capacity – it has repeatedly failed to attract investment.

Mike Penning, the minister responsible for England’s most important roads, has been told it is unacceptable that cash is made available to upgrade less busy parts of the M25 in London while the region is held back because of its most notorious route.

In a clear warning of the cost to the region in not backing Western bypass improvements, Mr Kelly replied to the minister saying: “Congestion problems on the A1 also threaten the ability to achieve the identified need for significant growth in the supply of housing in the corridor. This is seen as a major constraint in bringing forward a number of major sites, including a possible development area for 3,000 homes on land close to the Metrocentre.

The long-term aim for the road is to have a relief road built running parallel to the A1 from Lobley Hill to the A184 to take local traffic off the A1 between two closely spaced junctions. Transport bosses on Tyneside also propose closing the A1 northbound exit at the Dunston junction.


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Any serious expansion is going to require some demolition in Dunston.







It all depends what connections they want to maintain. But those junctions need to have access to the A1, not just the A184.



How about a southbound junction for the team valley.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 10:42 AM   #106
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North East motoring transformed ahead of schedule with two Tyne Tunnels

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North East motoring transformed ahead of schedule with two Tyne Tunnels

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Mon, 21/11/2011 - 16:05

Following a decade of planning, and almost four years of work on site, North East motorists enjoyed their first taste of a fully operational New Tyne Crossing today (Monday 21st November 2011) as the original Tyne Tunnel re-opened to traffic following refurbishment.

Traffic flow is set to be transformed with two road tunnels available, as the capacity of the river crossing has more than doubled. Congestion on the UK’s busiest ‘A’ road is expected to fall dramatically, making the notorious rush hour tailbacks a thing of the past.

The original road tunnel closed to traffic in February 2011 when the new tunnel, built as part of the £260M New Tyne Crossing project, was commissioned for use. While closed the tunnel underwent a major refurbishment, enabling a dedicated escape passage to be built and state-of-the-art fire safety technology to be installed. The Tyne Tunnels are now the safest road tunnels in the country.

The new look tunnel was unveiled at 10.00am this morning, as northbound traffic was transferred into it, heralding the start of a new era in motoring for the region’s drivers.

Councillor David Wood, Chairman of the Tyne and Wear Integrated Transport Authority (TWITA), Councillor Tom Hanson, Vice Chairman of the TWITA, Councillor James Sewell, Mayor of South Tyneside Council, and Mrs Linda Arkley, Elected Mayor of North Tyneside, welcomed the tunnels’ first customers either side of the Tyne. Limited edition golden tunnel permits were handed out to the first ten drivers through each tunnel, to commemorate the moment the region’s motorists have eagerly awaited.

Councillor Wood said: “This is another historic day for Tyne & Wear. To see traffic flowing through both Tyne Tunnels, and an end to the queues, gives me tremendous pleasure.

“This milestone is the culmination of a lot of hard work by thousands of people. I pay tribute especially to the contribution made by the Concessionaire TT2, by the contractor Bouygues and all of its sub-contractors, and by the Transport Authority’s team in enabling the project to be delivered ahead of schedule.

“The dualling of the A19 between Seaton Burn and North Yorkshire is now complete. I look forward to not hearing the Tyne Tunnels mentioned on every traffic bulletin as a pinch-point on the region’s roads!

“I also look forward to the Tunnels contributing to the economic growth of the area, and to improving the links between people and job opportunities.”

Elected Mayor for North Tyneside, Mrs Linda Arkley, said: “This is a pivotal event for North Tyneside, and for the region as a whole. Now that we have two vehicle tunnels carrying traffic under the Tyne, supported by the initial improvements to the junction at Silverlink, we will see a transformation of traffic flow on the A19, making a huge difference to drivers who use the route. The TT2 project has provided us with an enviable link to the south of the region, which can only encourage more people to live, shop and do business here, and that is fantastic news for the borough.”

The Leader of South Tyneside Council, Cllr Iain Malcolm, welcomed the news. He said: “Today is a major regeneration milestone and I am delighted to see that both tunnels are now fully operational. A second vehicle tunnel under the Tyne will go a long way to help connect the residents of South Tyneside with job opportunities.

“This project is a fine example of partnership working and to see the project complete on budget and two weeks ahead of schedule is not only excellent news for the people of South Tyneside, but also for the wider North East region.

“Now that both tunnels are open, the new Tyne crossings will reduce congestion for public transport, haulage and car users on this major route.

“Improved transport links to development areas along the A19 will enhance the regional economy and provide significant opportunities for jobs and business growth.

“With state-of-the-art safety features, the new tunnels are the safest in the country and I would like to thank all of our partners for their efforts in making this important project a success.”

Councillor Tom Hanson, Vice Chairman of the Tyne & Wear Integrated Transport Authority and local councillor for the Bede ward in Jarrow added: “I am delighted to see both tunnels fully operational.

“The construction and refurbishment phases of the project have been carried out with great care and consideration for the people of Jarrow and I praise Bouygues, TT2 and the Tyne and Wear Integrated Transport Authority for the sensitivity they have shown in managing such a demanding and complex project.

“I would especially like to congratulate the people of Jarrow for their involvement and positive attitude throughout this project.

“The nature of the construction works has caused unavoidable disruption, however local people have been extremely understanding and I give my heartfelt thanks for their patience.”

Nicolas Caille, Project Managing Director for Bouygues Travaux Publics UK, the main design and build contractor for the project, was also present to watch the first motorists travel through the dual tunnel site. He said: “I feel very relieved today, seeing the two tunnels up and running. This has been a complex and at times challenging project, and I am very proud that we’ve been able to re-open the tunnel earlier than planned. We’ve worked very hard to get here, and I would like to thank everyone who has played a part in the project. This is a very proud moment.”

Trevor Jackson, Managing Director for TT2, the Concessionaire of the New Tyne Crossing project, said: “This is the moment we have all been waiting for. Not only are we able to offer our customers two state-of-the-art road tunnels to get them to their destinations quicker, I am delighted that we’ve been able to achieve this ahead of schedule. Our customers and neighbours have been incredibly patient during the works. I hope they’ll agree that the wait has been worthwhile.”

The tunnels link East Howdon north of the Tyne with Jarrow in the south and, with two tunnels now in use, the project completes the dualling of the A19.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 10:55 AM   #107
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Tyne bridge was even worse than normal last night- so the tunnel doesn't seem to be helping that other nightmare black spot for motorists crossing the river. The a1 will never improve until they either close junctions in ghead and ncl, build another possible toll road to the west of the conurbation or widen the road to at least 3 lanes possibly 4 around the metro centre to team valley. The first is more likely and cheapest, second probably most expensive and unlikely unless a private company builds it and gets the money from the toll but would be a nightmare to plan what with likelihood the road going right through hilly countryside of Gateshead.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 01:19 PM   #108
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So why are they being so 'kind' to motorcyclists ?
Ever seen a motorcyclist scrambling around in his leathers for a 20 pence piece at the barriers and holding everyone up at 8am? Thats probably the reason why.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 03:54 PM   #109
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Tyne bridge was even worse than normal last night- so the tunnel doesn't seem to be helping that other nightmare black spot for motorists crossing the river. The a1 will never improve until they either close junctions in ghead and ncl, build another possible toll road to the west of the conurbation or widen the road to at least 3 lanes possibly 4 around the metro centre to team valley. The first is more likely and cheapest, second probably most expensive and unlikely unless a private company builds it and gets the money from the toll but would be a nightmare to plan what with likelihood the road going right through hilly countryside of Gateshead.
...unless that private money can be used to put the road through a series of tunnels.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 04:17 PM   #110
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I would still hope that North Tyneside council will try to press ahead with taking the roundabout away from Silverlink, Moor Farm, and Seaton Burn and South Tyneside council does something with the Testo's roundabout. That way we can then hopefully have the A19 as a round that has no hold ups.
And a dedicated slip road from the A194 onto the A19 would be nice.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 08:01 PM   #111
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Strangely that's not actually been the case so far. There was a problem on the A19 southbound this morning but that was due to an accident further down the A19.

The A1 on the other hand is still a nightmare.
The Evening Chronicle was reporting that more new users might start to use the tunnels due to the better flow, which no doubt will affect the roundabouts and link roads at Silverlink and Testos. Think the number they were quoting is 70,000 per day.

I haven't actually been along yet to have a look but the feeling was that all the opening of the new tunnel would have done is to get cars through and under the river crossing quicker, but making the queues worse further away along the A19.

A1 will continue to be a nightmare but I'm not entirely sure if they could expand further (in any case we've moved away from predict and provide to demand management, so I doubt if the Govt. or DfT would be willing to fund any more lanes.
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The A1 on the other hand is still a nightmare.
Some of the roundabout and slip roads at Lobley Hill was coned off this morning which probably didn't help. Certainly it was an awful lot more busy than usual at 10am. Naturally there was no sign of anyone working there.
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Old November 26th, 2011, 10:31 AM   #113
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North East is worst region for potholes in the UK
by Ruth Lawson, The Journal, November 26th 2011


Pothole repair on the B6309 near Whittonstall

THE North East has been named as one of the worst regions in the country for potholes, according to new research.

The findings show the region as having more than the national average number of potholes with 19 per neighbourhood, a figure only surpassed in Scotland which averages 20.1.

Calls are now being made for councils to “get to grips” with the growing problem before the winter weather sets in causing yet more potholes on already blighted roads. AA president Edmund King said: “Our streetwatch volunteers have once again shown that the UK has a pothole plague which has not gone away despite extra repairs this year.

“Highways authorities need to get to grips with the pothole problem, as compensation claims will soar when cold weather strikes and roads start breaking up again, placing greater burdens on already strained budgets.”

AA had 1,000 ‘watchers’ spread out across each region who volunteered to walk for one hour from their houses surveying the conditions of roads and paths on their way.

The national average found 14.9 potholes per neighbourhood compared with 12.5 a year ago.

But today North East council’s have challenged the AA survey.


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Old January 18th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #114
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Angry commuter alert...

Ive recently returned to a 9-5 job in the city centre and have had to make the arduous commute from Tynemouth for the first time in 11 or 12 years. Ive been dismayed to find that, no matter which route i take, the journey is tortuous at the same points i remember from the 90s, and a good 30% longer than when i last made it. The Corner House junction has reached as far back as the ECML at the Wills building, Chilli road and Jesmond road are at a standstill, awful tailbacks at Silverlink and Heaton road (DSS traffic presumably), and Billy Mill/Beach road as worse as ever homeward bound.

Not a personal rant, more a worry that without capital expenditure on infrastructure, this can only get worse. I'm sure South of the river is just as bad, but with the new Wear Bridge getting approval and the Metro improvements already paid for, I can't help think that the government's transport expenditure for the region is over and this huge gridlock can only get worse over the next 10 years.

Old man rant over.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #115
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Angry commuter alert...

Ive recently returned to a 9-5 job in the city centre and have had to make the arduous commute from Tynemouth for the first time in 11 or 12 years. Ive been dismayed to find that, no matter which route i take, the journey is tortuous at the same points i remember from the 90s, and a good 30% longer than when i last made it. The Corner House junction has reached as far back as the ECML at the Wills building, Chilli road and Jesmond road are at a standstill, awful tailbacks at Silverlink and Heaton road (DSS traffic presumably), and Billy Mill/Beach road as worse as ever homeward bound.

Not a personal rant, more a worry that without capital expenditure on infrastructure, this can only get worse. I'm sure South of the river is just as bad, but with the new Wear Bridge getting approval and the Metro improvements already paid for, I can't help think that the government's transport expenditure for the region is over and this huge gridlock can only get worse over the next 10 years.

Old man rant over.
Depends where you work, but try Shields Rd 'bypass' then turn right along Shields Rd at the roundabout at the top of Chilli Rd, [towards Lidl], then left [Benfield Rd, under Walkergate Stn] sometimes bypasses the worst traffic.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 11:49 PM   #116
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Use public transport! Metro is 24mins, always can get a seat, i can read my book/ prep for the day and it is dirt cheap... Circa £35 per month. I abandoned the tin box years ago. Cars are so 90s
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As Auberon Waugh used to say, the main problem with public transport is the rapidly declining standard of the public.
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As Auberon Waugh used to say, the main problem with public transport is the rapidly declining standard of the public.
And the fact that it is unreliable, inconvenient and over-expensive.

Also bus routes have been curtailed over the last 5 years or so. There used to be a choice of about 10 different buses from my house to Newcastle City Centre - now there are only 4. And two of those are those micro-rider things.
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I live in Heaton and if I need to get a bus I'll walk to the Corner House and get one of those spiffing bright, clean and fast numbers which get me to the Haymarket in minutes for £1.30.
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Angry commuter alert...

Ive recently returned to a 9-5 job in the city centre and have had to make the arduous commute from Tynemouth for the first time in 11 or 12 years. Ive been dismayed to find that, no matter which route i take, the journey is tortuous at the same points i remember from the 90s, and a good 30% longer than when i last made it. The Corner House junction has reached as far back as the ECML at the Wills building, Chilli road and Jesmond road are at a standstill, awful tailbacks at Silverlink and Heaton road (DSS traffic presumably), and Billy Mill/Beach road as worse as ever homeward bound.

Old man rant over.
No offence, but unless you need the car in your job, I don't really understand why anyone would choose to drive from Tynemouth to Newcastle when there is a mostly reliable Metro service with season tickets that are pretty reasonably priced.

I don't really see what can be done about the Coast Road at the bottlenecks mentioned, it can't be widened without demolishing houses. Chilllingham-Benton Rd is the main route to the Longbenton site so the roundabout joining it to the Coast Rd is never going to be quiet.

As for the standard of the public getting worse, Tommy rot. I use that line all the time and I never see any disorder on it.

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