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Old January 2nd, 2015, 10:04 PM   #541
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Something needs to be done with that Kwikfit though especially with this now
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 10:19 PM   #542
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Something needs to be done with that Kwikfit though especially with this now
There's much worse further down that needs sorting first...
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 01:56 PM   #543
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There's much worse further down that needs sorting first...

Holloway Head generally is a shambles for what is essentially a "Gateway" into the city, a shame Bath Row couldn't be at this end instead!
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 02:04 PM   #544
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I wonder with the increasing investment in the city centre, whether someone will look at The Wharf down in Gas Street Basin. Virtually the whole "very bland" office block, with its back end facing the canal as been empty for months now, just gathering dust and Canadian geese droppings. That site and the James Brindley pub next to it are crying out for some TLC or investment in a brilliant canalside location.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 02:39 PM   #545
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Both these sites need some serious work Nigeman. Trouble with Birmingham is that there is simply masses of land that can be developed, for example when the markets go there will be a huge tract of land that needs work. I'll be long gone before the full impact of this development reaps benefits, you're talking 40-50 years I guess.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 03:29 PM   #546
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Fire over eastside somewhere roads are a nightmare
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 04:09 PM   #547
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Pub in digbeth was on fire!
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 04:16 PM   #548
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Oh no... which one?

It's the Fox and Grapes...
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 04:22 PM   #549
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news...grapes-8377461

How convenient.

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Old January 3rd, 2015, 04:38 PM   #550
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Why is it convenient? HS2?

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Old January 3rd, 2015, 05:49 PM   #551
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I'm getting it mixed up with the other hs2 pubs I think. But it's in the way of it nonetheless.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 06:43 PM   #552
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Fox & Grapes, yes.

We saw the smoke on our way into town. The exterior walls are still standing, but the roof is quite seriously damaged - The fire crews were still damping down as we left.

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Also (In reply to nigeman's post) walked through Gas Street today - Looked like the doors to the James Brindley were open/missing with a couple of Police Officers outside.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #553
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That's a shame about the Fox & Grapes, but being left empty for so long has perhaps made something like this happening more likely.

As far as its future with HS2, I hope the fire has not damaged the building too badly, and that it can still be integrated into the HS2 station if they choose to do so.

Was the Fox & Grapes originally closed because of HS2? Seems such as shame as I remember going in there a couple of times around 2001-02, and it didn't seem short of custom.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 12:29 AM   #554
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I think these Grapes may finally have been pressed - who would buy a burned-out husk without any guarantee that it'll still be standing come HS2?
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Old January 4th, 2015, 06:15 AM   #555
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand the importance of this pub?

I mean, its ugly, in an awkward spot and clearly not financially viable.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 06:29 AM   #556
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand the importance of this pub?

I mean, its ugly, in an awkward spot and clearly not financially viable.
It's a listed building because it incorporates some really old features within it (I seem to remember that there are parts dating back to the 17th century), giving a rare example of what this area really used to be like.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 02:16 PM   #557
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Bizarre weather in the city today.

I've just crossed from Bournville to Barr Beacon and back. It's foggy and 0 degrees in Bournville, you can't even see the top of Old Joe.

In Streetly/Barr Beacon it's 4.5 degrees and sunny and you can see for miles. I wish I'd taken my camera as the weather line is across the centre of town, from Barr Beacon you can see the city skyline silhouetted against a wall of fog. Eerie.

The bottom of the bt tower is in fog yet the top is clear against blue sky. Wierd.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 03:13 PM   #558
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I bet it's one of those bloody EU weather directives again.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #559
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It's a listed building because it incorporates some really old features within it (I seem to remember that there are parts dating back to the 17th century), giving a rare example of what this area really used to be like.

Aware its listed, but I don't see how they could retain it within the HS2 station plans, I've seen dozens of visuals of the new station and surroundings and not seen it.
It either lies smack under the station or within Paternoster Place if I've understood the outline plans
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Old January 4th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #560
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I'm sure this pub is the one which the initial feasibility study said would likely be lost.
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