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Old January 11th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #661
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I wonder what will come of this, there was a planning app some time ago for a replacement bigger MSCP, in the app it stated the car park is nearing the end of its life and would need to be demolished

I do hope another large development is on the cards

Hopefully a replacement for the thistle hotel and we can see that replaced too
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Old January 11th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #662
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I'm guessing the next stage in this will be M&G seeking an extended lease period or buying the leasehold as there's only 22 years left?
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Old January 12th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #663
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Unexpectedly found this today in Centenary Square




Will it go when the square is redeveloped?
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Old January 12th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #664
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its worth noting that the idea to plant up the fluzzi is only a stop-gap until it can be fixed, rather than having it empty!
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Old January 12th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #665
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There was water in the Floozie pools. Probably from rain water.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #666
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Unexpectedly found this today in Centenary Square




Will it go when the square is redeveloped?
I had a lecture from Tom Lomax about the Centenary Square and Spirit of enterprise fountain when I was at the Kent Institute of Art and Design in 1995
Not many people realise that The wirey bit at the top looks like two hands shaking when viewed from a certain angle
http://www.tomlomax.co.uk
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Old January 12th, 2015, 06:44 PM   #667
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It's been in storage for at least 5 years now! I last saw it 3 years ago at the Museum Collection Centre.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 11:16 AM   #668
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For those who are interested, i'm hearing the Birmingham Plan has been thrown out in order to increase housing numbers.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 11:25 AM   #669
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It was reported last week.

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Inspector calls for more work on Birmingham local plan
8 January 2015 by Jim Dunton , Be the First to Comment

Birmingham City Council has been asked to provide two new pieces of work for its draft local plan, following a four-week examination of the document which covers the city's development up to 2031.

Interim findings from inspector Roger Clews this week seek further detail on the Birmingham Development Plan's housing need assessment and more work on its sustainability appraisal for the development of green belt sites near the town of Sutton Coldfield.

In particular, Clews asked for a new report to ensure that the strategic housing market assessment complied with EXAM 109 guidance on market signals, affordability and employment projections, and that further detail on the assessment’s methodology was supplied.

In relation to the sustainability appraisal, the inspector called for further work to demonstrate that "all reasonable alternatives" for green belt development had been assessed at the same level of detail as the option submitted.

http://www.planningresource.co.uk/ar...ham-local-plan
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Old January 13th, 2015, 12:31 PM   #670
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Proposed design for Centenary Square by Broadway Malyan

Centenary Square design competition by Birmingham News Room, on Flickr

Atkins

Centenary Square design competition by Birmingham News Room, on Flickr

Barton Willmore, Reading

Centenary Square design competition by Birmingham News Room, on Flickr

Graeme Massie Architects, Edinburgh

Centenary Square design competition by Birmingham News Room, on Flickr

Open Studio Architects with United Visual Artists, London

Centenary Square design competition by Birmingham News Room, on Flickr
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Old January 13th, 2015, 12:51 PM   #671
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Atkins is the clear choice, no? The Broadway Malyan looks good at first glance but doesn't work when scrutinised.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 12:54 PM   #672
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Good work Ell!!!

I'd be happy with Open Studio Architects, Atkins or Broadway Malyan but i think there are elements in all 3 that could be combined to create an amazing space.

The waterfall is an amazing touch on Broadway... The pavement doesn't exist though.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 01:30 PM   #673
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As someone who is frustrated at the longevity of some of our landmarks I do like the added greenery, trees and water to the square. Top 2 for me.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 01:59 PM   #674
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Top 2 for me there.. Trying to remember currently there is no water in the square at all?? Interesting how both Broadway and Atkins went for water around the hall of memory.. Fountains and greenery too look great. However for me the biggest change in terms of the feel of the place will be if they drop/remove the curbs both sides of Broad Street so that the square flows from the Library into Arena Central. The railings present at the moment constrict the square obviously due to the busy road.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:00 PM   #675
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Broadway Malyan and Atkins for me!

I love how the Hall of Memory is surrounded by water, I love the waterfall in the Broadway Malyan proposal, but can BCC keep it running

My favourite out of the two is Atkins, but I'd take Broadway Malyan too! Sorry but the other ones minus Open Studio Architects look cheap.

Also love the incorporation of Broad Street and Arena Central, fantastic! Finally goodbye to the persian rug!
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:13 PM   #676
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Good work Ell!!!
Just saw Birmingham Newsroom post them to Flickr (the council's Flickr account). The council also have a YouTube channel under the same name!

Now also on the Birmingham Post

http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busi...square-8437628
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:17 PM   #677
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Yeah, based on those images the Atkins one definitely.

The Broadway Malayan one is disappointing. They don't seem to understand the basics of desire lines and pedestrian flow at all. That water feature around the Hall of Memory looks exciting but is a major hinderence to natural pedestrian flow. I also don't like the forest outside the Rep - Where would any large scale public events be held?

They also need to ensure there is sufficient space available for the Rememberance Day events nr the Hall of Memory.

A few of the images just look like someone playing around with a photo app.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:24 PM   #678
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I prefer Broadway Malayan as they have included an infinity pool around the hall of memory and turns it in to a show piece fountain. I also like Atkins.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:28 PM   #679
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agreed love the water wall from hall of memory to street level, that would be a great feature
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:29 PM   #680
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Interestingly open studios has showed the area with paradise circus and arena central but left beneficial building in scaffolding
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