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Old January 12th, 2017, 05:10 PM   #121
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As well as the forecast high tides, following this morning's full moon, there are a couple of exceptionally low tides. 0.49 metres height at North Shields. These would be ideal for mud spotters except that they are around midnight on both Friday and Saturday nights. The opposite ones are near midday, and useful, but not quite as low.
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Newgate Street - Part 1

Had a look around the former Newgate Street Coop this afternoon, 12th January 2017. It appears that the flat roof between the towers has suffered gale damage, certainly there were workers on the roof.

Scaffolding is being erected at the front of the building so that repairs can be made.

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Old January 12th, 2017, 07:34 PM   #123
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Newgate Street - Part 2

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Old January 13th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #124
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Follow up to the exercise of a month ago - see posts above

From ITV News Tyne Tees website on 12/01/17

EXTRACT

The Environment Agency is warning people to expect high tides and strong winds over the coming days. This could result in flooding. The concern is that dangerous debris could be forced over flood defences.

Teams are putting up a temporary barrier along Newcastle Quayside, at a low lying area next to the swing bridge, and 50 metres at the coast at Blyth.

A full 700m barrier is on standby for the Quayside if needed.

People are being advised to stay safe and stay away from coastal areas.





Teams are putting up a temporary barrier along Newcastle Quayside, at a low lying area next to the swing bridge, Credit: ITV Tyne Tees

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Been down to the quayside this afternoon.
Environment Agency staff on stand by.
No flooding at high tide earlier this morning and no overtopping expected at the next High Tide at 3.55pm today.
The blue clad defences are only at the low point on the river which is from opposite the Watergate building (next to the proposed new cafe) and West to just beyond the Wetherspoons bar.
Spoke to them about whether dredging would help but was advised the bottom sediment has a lot of heavy metal, lead etc which would be classed as hazardous waste. There is a project including the university which is looking at the Tyne sediment all the way up river.
So, no tsunami due today on the Tyne
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Old January 13th, 2017, 06:39 PM   #125
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Newgate Street - Update

From the Newcastle City Council web site @ https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/news-st...-street-update
Newgate Street - Update
13 January 2017

Pedestrians can now walk along Newgate Street in Newcastle City Centre after roofing materials blown in high winds led to its closure.

A scaffold tunnel has been completed in front of the former Co-op building which is now occupied by the Premier Inn and other businesses which are all now open. Contractors are currently constructing a second tunnel on the other side of Newgate Street running along Intu Eldon Square, New Look and Debenhams, which are also open for business.

Work will also soon start on erecting scaffolding at the rear of the Premier Inn so contractors can begin to make the roof safe. Subject to weather conditions this will start on Saturday.

Due to the risk of falling debris Newgate Street will remain closed to buses and taxis. It is not possible to say for how long as work is subject to survey work being carried out when the weather is calm.

Newgate Street was closed shortly after 2am on Wednesday after strong winds damaged the roof of the Premier Inn sending insulation panels falling down onto the street. No one was injured.

Newcastle City Council will continue to monitor the issue.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 07:26 PM   #126
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From the Newcastle City Council web site @ https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/news-st...-street-update
Newgate Street - Update
13 January 2017

Pedestrians can now walk along Newgate Street in Newcastle City Centre after roofing materials blown in high winds led to its closure.

A scaffold tunnel has been completed in front of the former Co-op building which is now occupied by the Premier Inn and other businesses which are all now open. Contractors are currently constructing a second tunnel on the other side of Newgate Street running along Intu Eldon Square, New Look and Debenhams, which are also open for business.

Work will also soon start on erecting scaffolding at the rear of the Premier Inn so contractors can begin to make the roof safe. Subject to weather conditions this will start on Saturday.

Due to the risk of falling debris Newgate Street will remain closed to buses and taxis. It is not possible to say for how long as work is subject to survey work being carried out when the weather is calm.

Newgate Street was closed shortly after 2am on Wednesday after strong winds damaged the roof of the Premier Inn sending insulation panels falling down onto the street. No one was injured.

Newcastle City Council will continue to monitor the issue.
I m sure there s a technical reason for opening to pedestrians and not vehicles but personally I d rather have a taxi roof between my head and the falling debris
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I m sure there s a technical reason for opening to pedestrians and not vehicles but personally I d rather have a taxi roof between my head and the falling debris
Many pedestrians who regularly use Newgate Street, including myself on a regular basis would I'm sure rather have the assurance that materials from the former Co-op roof aren't going to fall on their heads.

Quite an important pedestrian route and the signposted diversion via Stowell Street can for some be confusing and unfortunately longer.

Perhaps the reason for the road closure is the chance that more debris may fall given the high winds which are still about in the North East over the next few days.

I suppose the City Council are stuck between a rock and a hard place, leave it open and a vehicle is hit by flying debris and crashes then they get the blame for not closing Newgate Street.

One thing that this has highlighted is the large number of bus traffic which still uses Newgate Street - evidenced by the chaos on Blackett Street, New Bridge Street and John Dobson Street , those being on the diverted route.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 07:39 PM   #128
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Been down to the quayside this afternoon.
Environment Agency staff on stand by.
No flooding at high tide earlier this morning and no overtopping expected at the next High Tide at 3.55pm today.
The blue clad defences are only at the low point on the river which is from opposite the Watergate building (next to the proposed new cafe) and West to just beyond the Wetherspoons bar.
Spoke to them about whether dredging would help but was advised the bottom sediment has a lot of heavy metal, lead etc which would be classed as hazardous waste. There is a project including the university which is looking at the Tyne sediment all the way up river.
So, no tsunami due today on the Tyne
An Environment Agency spokesman on BBC Radio 5 Live this evening said that the defences had worked as water had 'lapped' against them on the afternoon high tide.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 07:54 PM   #129
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The afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 13/01/17 Part 1 of 5

Some pictures (over 5 posts) taken by myself on Friday 13/01/17 in period approx 1415 to 1615 as the Tyne rose to its high tide time of 1555

The extent of the temporary barriers, 200m length, brought across from their holding point at Stobart's Carlisle depot, as viewed from High Level Bridge and other quayside vantage points either side of the Swing Bridge, approx 1415 - 1430













The situation at approx 1430 looking up river, under Swing Bridge



The Marina at approx 1445 - level of pontoon getting high, almost level with quayside







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The afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 13/01/17 Part 2 of 5

Part 2 of 5

Some pictures taken by myself on Friday 13/01/17 in period approx 1415 to 1615 as the Tyne rose to its high tide time of 1555

Vicinity of Gateshead Millennium Bridge, approx 1450







View over vessel at HMS Calliope, across river to some of the vessels at Quayside Marina, approx 1455



View of Hillgate Quay from Swing Bridge, approx 1500



The "at risk" area, approx 1500









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The afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 13/01/17 Part 3 of 5

Part 3 of 5

Some pictures taken by myself on Friday 13/01/17 in period approx 1415 to 1615 as the Tyne rose to its high tide time of 1555

Approx 1520



Approx 1525



Approx 1530



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The afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 13/01/17 Part 4 of 5

Part 4 of 5

Some pictures taken by myself on Friday 13/01/17 in period approx 1415 to 1615 as the Tyne rose to its high tide time of 1555

East side of Swing Bridge, approx 1547 - 1550, at "the low point" meaning greatest amount of overtopping









West of Swing Bridge, approx 1550







East side of Swing Bridge, approx 1600 - water outside of the barriers seems having come from backed up drain







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The afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 13/01/17 Part 5 of 5

Part 5 of 5

Some pictures taken by myself on Friday 13/01/17 in period approx 1415 to 1615 as the Tyne rose to its high tide time of 1555

In period 1600 - 1615, tv & newspaper video crews out in force

















Thankfully only small amount of river water needed to be retained by the barriers, with water level receding, approx 1615





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Old January 13th, 2017, 08:18 PM   #134
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Many pedestrians who regularly use Newgate Street, including myself on a regular basis would I'm sure rather have the assurance that materials from the former Co-op roof aren't going to fall on their heads.

Quite an important pedestrian route and the signposted diversion via Stowell Street can for some be confusing and unfortunately longer.

Perhaps the reason for the road closure is the chance that more debris may fall given the high winds which are still about in the North East over the next few days.

I suppose the City Council are stuck between a rock and a hard place, leave it open and a vehicle is hit by flying debris and crashes then they get the blame for not closing Newgate Street.

One thing that this has highlighted is the large number of bus traffic which still uses Newgate Street - evidenced by the chaos on Blackett Street, New Bridge Street and John Dobson Street , those being on the diverted route.
Oh I aree - I just couldn't figure out what makes it OK for pedestrians but not cars.Cars seem to offer more protection. Perhaps you re right - crashes or something.

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Oh I aree - I just couldn't figure out what makes it OK for pedestrians but not cars.Cars seem to offer more protection. Perhaps you re right - crashes or something.
Of course not to mention the fact that the pedestrian tunnel will afford protection to the various eateries which were cut off from their customers, so commercial concerns as well.
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The morning after the previous afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 14/01/17 Part 1 of 3

Follow up to my posts #1084 - 1088 of 13/07/17 - Thanks for the "Likes"

Here are some pictures (over 3 posts) to show the situation with the Tyne some 19 hours later on a sunny but cold Saturday morning 14/01/17

Compared to the "Full" river at approx 1600 on 13/01/17 the river was at a very low condition exposing a great area of mudflats and great height of river wall

Starting just east of Dunston Staithes approx 1045 heading down river on the Gateshead Riverside cycleway/footpath





















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The morning after the previous afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 14/01/17 Part 2 of 3

Part 2 of 3

Here are some pictures (over 3 posts) to show the situation with the Tyne some 19 hours later on Saturday morning 14/01/17

Approx 1100 heading down river on the Gateshead Riverside cycleway/footpath







Environment Agency staff in final stages of clearing away the temporary barriers etc in vicinty of Swing Bridge















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The morning after the previous afternoon "high water" event on Newcastle Quayside, pictures 14/01/17 Part 3 of 3

Part 3 of 3

Here are some pictures (over 3 posts) to show the situation with the Tyne some 19 hours later on Saturday morning 14/01/17

The Marina at approx 1115









At Gateshead Millennium Bridge







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Newgate St, Newcastle, protective measures after damage to building - pictures 21/01/17

Some pictures by myself from Saturday 21/01/17 approx 1345 showing the temporary protective measures for pedestrians put in place to either side of Newgate St, Newcastle following recent wind damage to building, noted in posts above















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Premier Inn - Former Newgate Street Cooperative Store

Couple of shots of the scaffolding at the rear of the Premier Inn with work being undertaken on the roof damaged during the recent gales. Photographs taken 24th January 2017.

Newgate Street is still closed to traffic.




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