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Old August 30th, 2007, 11:53 PM   #101
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they do on the way to Sunderland. From where the South Shields branch turns off, to Sunderland.
and that's the dirty mackem section too so it doesn't count.

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Old August 30th, 2007, 11:56 PM   #102
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The bit to Sunderland is the bit I was really referring to yes.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 06:41 PM   #103
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I don't think they have any major problems with it sharing tracks with National Rail services on the Sunderland line.

I'm pretty sure the Oyster Card type system is not due to be installed until phase 3 of the metro invigoration project, which doesn't start until 2018.
The upgrade to ticketing that is happening in the next couple of years is only to put new barriers in and new machines that take cards and notes.
See here for the planned phases:
http://www.nexus.org.uk/wps/wcm/conn...-invigoration/
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Old August 31st, 2007, 06:56 PM   #104
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Theres no problems at the moment no, but if they want to up frequency on that line, or change times or whatever, everything has to be done in co-ordination with Northern. That must limit the flexibility of that part of the Metro to an extent.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 09:51 PM   #105
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I'm pretty sure the Oyster Card type system is not due to be installed until phase 3 of the metro invigoration project, which doesn't start until 2018.
The upgrade to ticketing that is happening in the next couple of years is only to put new barriers in and new machines that take cards and notes.
See here for the planned phases:
http://www.nexus.org.uk/wps/wcm/conn...-invigoration/
I'm not sure if thats right I think the barriers will accept the new european smart cards which eventually you will be able to use anywhere in europe. Funnily enough though these are not compatable with the oyster system in London so unless they can upgrade their system they will have to completely replace the oyster system to fit with the new European smart card.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 10:03 AM   #106
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LOL, that'll be great if it is indeed true. Funny about London having to replace their whole system if they're going to use the Euro Smart Cards though.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 02:50 AM   #107
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Here are some photos of Haymarket Metro station. It won't look like this much longer:










Now to the suburbs - Longbenton:











Manors:









An oldie - Monkseaton:









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Old October 7th, 2007, 09:05 PM   #108
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great pics Andrew, there's quite a few old-fashioned ornate stations on the coast, Tynemouth being the best example.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 09:21 PM   #109
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Thanks for those.We never get enough photos of this system.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 11:04 PM   #110
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I wouldn't get off at that Manors station! Is it well used?
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:34 AM   #111
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Not really probably the least used of the City Centre stations, though might get busier now that the new Northumbria Campus is right next door, for people coming from Town its not really worth getting on the Metro as the amount of time you have to wait for a train is probably the same as it takes to walk, coming in though from Chilli road direction I imagin it will get quite busy with all the students and people going to the business park.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 07:55 PM   #112
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Used to be the site of Newcastle's second railway station with about 10 platforms. The old line from Central to Gosforth ran through the current site but has now been diverted into the underground station to provide an under used chord for metros from Manors to Jesmond (presumably for access to the airport branch).
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:27 PM   #113
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I was speaking to someone about that chord and apparently they used it in the mornings and an evening so that the metros could get to St James or the gosforth depo without having to go all the way round the coast. I'd like to see it used for service trains though to save people who live down the monors byker/chilli road leg of the coast loop having to change in town for airport/regents centre in a morning or evening, possibly with a new station on the chord at Sheildfield.
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I was speaking to someone about that chord and apparently they used it in the mornings and an evening so that the metros could get to St James or the gosforth depo without having to go all the way round the coast. I'd like to see it used for service trains though to save people who live down the monors byker/chilli road leg of the coast loop having to change in town for airport/regents centre in a morning or evening, possibly with a new station on the chord at Sheildfield.
I'm pretty sure there's still a couple of platforms on that section of line, you can see them from Sandyford Road.
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Yes there is just next to that Indian resturant thats in an old Railway Car
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Old October 11th, 2007, 02:39 PM   #116
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I don't get it, surely it can't be used. If you go on google maps and follow the track from where it goes past that Indian restaurant south towards manors, it goes along the trench in between the central motorway and the manors campus, but it reaches a dead end where it gets to manors business park car park. I can't see a way for trains to get from manors to jesmond other than going via the coast.
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I don't get it, surely it can't be used. If you go on google maps and follow the track from where it goes past that Indian restaurant south towards manors, it goes along the trench in between the central motorway and the manors campus, but it reaches a dead end where it gets to manors business park car park. I can't see a way for trains to get from manors to jesmond other than going via the coast.
It doesn't reach a dead end, it goes under the business park and connects with the eastbound track at Manors station. If you're ever passing through Manors on a westbound metro take a look at the eastbound track and just as you're heading to Monument you should be able to see the junction diverging.

It's what those scissor crossovers just outside of Manors tunnel are for.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:42 PM   #118
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Thanks for the metro pics, brings back memories.

Longbenton is looking good.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #119
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It doesn't reach a dead end, it goes under the business park and connects with the eastbound track at Manors station. If you're ever passing through Manors on a westbound metro take a look at the eastbound track and just as you're heading to Monument you should be able to see the junction diverging.

It's what those scissor crossovers just outside of Manors tunnel are for.
Ah right, that's interesting, you learn new things all the time! Why haven't they made the most of that then? There's potential for one, possibly even two more Metro stations on that stretch of track! With the new Northumbria campus and a fair bit of new student accommodation in that area, which already has a relatively significant existing population, there must be a good case for new stations there. It seems to me to be something that could provide a lot of benefit at relatively little cost (compared to larger schemes such as trams for the west end). Stations here could also help to encourage new development in that area.
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I guess it's because it's effectively a city centre avoiding line and as thus doesn't have a whole lot of demand. But as you point out with the new campus opening up there perhaps there will be demand for peak hour services from a station there to the suburbs and satellite towns and also act as a direct route from North Shields to the Airport using the old bay platform there?

The Manors mainline station could do with increased usage I reckon.
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