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Old July 12th, 2010, 04:44 PM   #81
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So it was Durham, not Northumberland, as I had earlier said. My apologies.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 11:25 PM   #82
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100 times the height of the Angel of the North
Even boreholes are being measured in terms of angle of the north equivalence.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 11:52 AM   #83
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The final sentence on this post here, is a bit of a potential concern . .

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Old July 15th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #84
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To be honest I don't think that is the only concern relating to this project. How long has it dragged on for now with not even a planning application being made?

Surely it's either going to happen or it isn't? Developers are interested or they aren't? Otherwise this will be going on for decades longer; a bit like EPS!
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Old July 15th, 2010, 05:43 PM   #85
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There is cause for optimism that the new Govt will shortly introduce helpful new arrangements known as tax increment financing, allowing local authorities to raise funds for the significant upfront infrastruture costs for new developments to borrow against their future tax revenues for business occupiers. Scotland has already started this. Newcastle council has been very active in lobbying for this as it will significantly help Science City.

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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #86
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Theres an informative (but ultimately pointless) advert for NSC in last nights Chronic. It points out that we have a world-class research facility in the Stem Cell Research site at Centre for Life, and will soon have another of national importance, the Centre for Age Research on the site of the General Hospital. Now correct me if im wrong, but neither of these is on or indeed anywhere near the brewery site. And correct me if im wronger still, but the three developments which are going ahead onsite are nothing to do with Science City at all (Business School, Student accom, Sandman Hotel).In other words, 'NSC' is happening successfully elsewhere in the city, and the Brewery site is spawning multiple projects unrelated to the concept.

So in conclusion.....who else thinks the Science City idea for the Brewery site is a complete waste of time?
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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:44 PM   #87
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I don't think it's a waste of time. I do think though that nothing is happening behind the scenes in order to get this project going. I do believe that it will be a great thing for the city if it ever gets off the ground, I just doubt with funding vuts to come, the lack of interest combined with the apparent lack of work on our side that it isn't go to end well.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 11:48 AM   #88
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Plans to drill for energy are approved
July 17th 2010, The Journal



THE green light has been given to experts’ plans to drill 2,000 metres below the ground in search of an environmentally-friendly energy source.

Scientists from Newcastle University have been given planning permission to create boreholes up to 2km deep – 100 times the height of the Angel of the North.

They will drill down in search of geothermal energy below the former Scottish and Newcastle Brewery site.

Geothermal energy is seen as a very green type of renewable power, as it does not require the burning of fossil fuels like coal or gas and gives out very little in the way of emissions, except steam.

It involves harnessing natural heat from deep below the surface of the earth and using it to warm water on the surface.

Experts plan to set up two boreholes to test the temperature and find out whether the method could be used to produce electricity, central heating or hot water for buildings planned as part of the Science Central development earmarked for the site.

Members of the city council’s planning committee granted permission for the boreholes after reading a report which said “the principle of a geothermal drill rig drilling to a depth of 2km is acceptable given the nature of neighbouring land uses, the location of the site within the wider former brewery site, the noise mitigation measures proposed and the restricted hours of operation”.

There were no objections to the plan.


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Old August 17th, 2010, 01:32 PM   #89
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New plea on funding for Newcastle Science City
Aug 17 2010 by Adam Jupp, The Journal

THE Government is being urged to safeguard a flagship regeneration project despite the decision to axe the body providing funding to it.

Regional development agency (RDA) One North East had agreed in principle to award a grant for the Science Central scheme in Newcastle city centre.

It is being developed on the site of the former Tyne brewery, which was jointly bought by the RDA, the City Council and Newcastle University as part of wider plans to create thousands of jobs. But council chiefs fear the decision to phase out One North East could see the funding pledge lost and fears have been raised that the land could also be sold.

Now incoming City Council leader Coun David Faulkner has written to business secretary Vince Cable to urge him to protect the project.

His note was penned on the back of Mr Cable’s visit to the region, during which city leaders discussed with him the future of assets owned by the RDA.

The letter says: “I understand of course the need for central Government to secure good value from those assets. But it is important to distinguish passive assets from those that are an integral part of local regeneration and business development schemes.
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Old August 17th, 2010, 08:17 PM   #90
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I hope the government doesn't protect the project since there is clearly no demand from the private sector for anything to happen.

This whole 'science city' branding the Labour government handed out seems to be pretty baseless, jingoism for the large part. Many of the things they acclaimed about Newcastle (stem cell research, etc) were already happening anyway, irrespective of the government.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 05:00 PM   #91
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From the Evening Chronicle - 22nd September 2010 . .



It's unfortunate that the Chronicle choose to use a picture of the 'Downing Site', rather than the 'Science Central' site, when they are writing an article about the 'Science Central' site!!

Still, I suppose one is a sort of 'gateway site' for the other . . .

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Old September 29th, 2010, 02:04 AM   #92
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Ministers will decide on Science Central scheme
September 28th 2010, by Adrian Pearson, The Journal


GOVERNMENT permission will be needed to secure multi-million pound regeneration projects vital to Tyneside’s economic revival, it emerged yesterday.

Development agency One North East approved money for Newcastle’s proposed Science Central building and Gateshead’s planned design centre at a board meeting last week. At the same meeting they set out what projects would be axed following a £33m budget cut which has led to warnings that 3,000 jobs will now not be created in the region.

Regeneration bosses found £8m in their budget to support the plan to build a research and business complex on the site of the former Tyne Brewery, next to St James’ Park.

Ministers in the coalition Government have ordered regeneration chiefs to freeze all capital projects, meaning that there will be no new building work for the foreseeable future.

The agency will have to write and seek special permission for the projects.

The last time One North East asked the Business Secretary Vince Cable for an exemption to spending restrictions was for multi-million pound tourism project Passionate people Passionate Places. Despite underpinning a £4bn tourism industry - this was turned down.

Newcastle University and the city council, who are both partnered with the development agency in the Science City project, will now have to form a back-up plan in case the plea is turned down.

In a joint statement the university and the council said: "The site of Newcastle Science Central is an important part of the Science City project. Any decisions on One North East’s contribution to the site must be considered by Government.

"The City Council and Newcastle University remain absolutely committed to the success of Science City as a key driver for investment and high skilled jobs in the region.

"The university and council are working closely together to resolve the consequences of the abolition of One North East. We have a transition plan which we are confident will avoid any loss of momentum, and will be working with Government to ensure that plan is delivered."


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Old October 9th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #93
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City can still be the home for science
October 9th 2010, by Adrian Pearson, The Journal



HOPES of turning Newcastle into a UK home for science are growing as new hi-tech companies prepare to set up in the city.

Newcastle’s Science City project is pushing ahead with its business creation scheme, the Newcastle Innovation Machine, which it is hoped will this month see up to six new UK-first businesses formed.

The Innovation Machine brings in some the country’s most talented minds to the city, gives them the funds to research ideas and then establishes the firm as unique businesses.

Among the firms hoped to be created are a genomics business that uses genetic tests to find the best exercise and diet regime and a veterinary supply business with a new range of therapeutic products. Also on the cards is a business that provides films to amateur sportsmen and women and a consultancy business providing services to the offshore wind turbine industry.

The Science City project is backed by the city’s council and Newcastle University, as well as help from development agency One North East.

It is thought these and other new businesses would never have existed without their support.

Science City chief executive Peter Arnold said he was confident the firms set up through the innovation would eventually employ thousands of people between them.

Dr Arnold said he has personally been talking to eight large innovative corporations about Newcastle and its science and innovation, with positive feed back about his work.


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Old October 11th, 2010, 03:19 PM   #94
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Science City bosses plan to create 2,000 jobs
October 11th 2010, by Adrian Pearson, Evening Chronicle


AMBITIOUS plans to put the 'new' into part of Newcastle’s inner West End, came a step closer today. A £300m refit was outlined as Science City bosses push out plans to create 2,000 jobs.

The long-running project to transform the site of the former Tyne Brewery next to St James’ Park is finally pushing ahead as city leaders agree a staggered approach to building a flagship research building, Science Central.

It is hoped the centre will create a home for the UK’s leading scientists while at the same time widening the city centre and breathing new life into run-down neighbourhoods around the site.

The first phase of the development will see work on new roads and sewers and other infrastructure on Wellington Street.

Project partners including the city council and Newcastle University have contributed £8m each, along with another £8m awaiting approval from the development agency One North East. They hope to spend more than £40m on the project, including another £8m in European cash.

It is hoped businesses will flock to the site, investing £250m over the next 15 to 20 years. The rest of the site will be developed by these businesses, and when land sales are taken into account, regeneration chiefs believe partners could rake back £10m each.

Officers at the city development company "1NG", set up between the two councils, are confident they can have a planning application by November.

Colin MacPherson, director of development at the city development company, said: “The plans that the public will get a chance to preview outline the exciting vision for Science Central and take us a step closer to the final submission of an outline planning application in November, which will be a major milestone in the development of the site.

“It builds on all the good work to date progressing the masterplan with all the partners’ support.” They hope to start getting the public’s views on the plans in a city consultation starting later this week.

Following planning permission, construction work should start in 2011.

Peter Allen, the council’s executive member for resources, said it had the backing of Liberal Democrat colleagues, including Nick Clegg.

Coun Allen added: “The planning side going ahead is a positive move and the physical side is on its way. Now we are seeing that the financial side is sorting itself out. The deputy prime minister said last week he wants to hand over new powers for raising money to help Newcastle and certain other cities.”


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Old October 11th, 2010, 03:44 PM   #95
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I'm pleased we're finally at the planning stages. Hopefully once the infrastructure of the site is developed it may encourage interest among businesses. I'm just hoping the first building by the council/university is of a very high quality in order to set the standard. I know infrastructure improvements and one building are just a very small step, but hopefully this could be the catalyst for further and quicker development around it. Anyway it is definately a step forward and I look forward seeing the planning application in November. I wonder if anything will be available later this week at the consultations?
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Old October 11th, 2010, 05:07 PM   #96
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I'm pleased we are finally seeing something positive, though the Chronicle seems to be implying the message that Downing Plaza is yet to start or be given investment. Anyway lets hope there is some good quality designs and materials in these plans, and also lets hope we have research companies willing to upsticks here.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #97
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That seems like a fluff piece no me, there's not really any new or different plans and no hint of any private sector interest.
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There is an updated plan, and equally importantly, a business and delivery plan to go with it.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 11:52 AM   #99
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Jobs could be created at Newcastle Science Central
October 12th 2010, by Adrian Pearson, The Journal


MORE than 5,000 jobs could come to Newcastle if ministers push ahead with new city spending powers.

Regeneration chiefs unveiling a master plan for the latest work on Science City have said they could revive Tyneside’s fortunes if the Treasury hands over permission to borrow millions of pounds for the project.

Plans for Science Central, a flagship research building to be built on the site of the former Tyne Brewery, will go out to consultation this week.

It is thought the plans will see 2,000 jobs created with £40m in public cash and another £250m worth of private business investment over the next 20 years.

That jobs tally could more than double if the Deputy Prime Minister’s promise to stand by the city is met.

Newcastle Council knows only around £30m of that cash is so far earmarked but councillors say they are confident they will fill the gap using the Tax Incremental Financing powers announced by Nick Clegg in his conference speech last month.

These fundraising powers would allow the council to borrow cash to invest in Science City and then repay the money from the increased business rates generated from the site.

It is hoped the centre will create a home for the UK’s leading scientists while at the same time widening the city centre and breathing new life into run-down neighbourhoods around the site.

The first phase of the development will see work on new roads and sewers and other infrastructure on Wellington Street.

On the edge of the zone will be a seven-storey HQ with a new university business school and student accommodation.

Together the various plans add up to the largest redevelopment in a generation.

Project partners including the city council and Newcastle University have contributed £8m each, along with another £8m awaiting approval from the development agency One North East.

They hope to spend more than £40m on the project, including another £8m in European cash. It is hoped businesses will flock to the site, investing £250m over the next 15 to 20 years.

The rest of the site will be developed by these businesses, and when land sales are taken into account, regeneration chiefs believe partners could rake back £10m each.

Officers at the city development company One Newcastle Gateshead, set up between the two councils, are confident they can have a planning application by November.


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Old October 12th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #100
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That seems like a fluff piece no me, there's not really any new or different plans and no hint of any private sector interest.
Aye. If we had half the jobs that have been "planned" over the years, we'd have full employment.
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