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Old October 25th, 2009, 11:51 AM   #61
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What a great thread. Those photos of the Tyne Bridge are particularly impressive, as are the monstrous road proposals. A road bypassing a motorway- never hear of that one before.

Time to make a thread like this for Hull
This little Historic Newcastle Photos thread of ours, seems to be setting quite a trend!

Firstly, we have HULL (see above) starting a similar one, now we have SUNDERLAND, yesterday 24th October, doing the same!

Nothing wrong with that.

EDIT . . I hope this post does not cause 'trouble' with the Sunderland posters, it is not intended to. I am aware that our 'Historic Photos' thread is not the first one in the world, and that a Sunderland poster may well have thought of the idea independently

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Old October 25th, 2009, 01:27 PM   #62
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Post 37 is very interesting.

Nice to see the different stages over the years, it appears that they never actually found the correct buildings for the Monumant Mall location. Anyway I sttill prefer it the way it is now, it maybe bland but it is still one the better newer build buildings we have in Newcastle.

Can we hear that story Historian?

It's also good to know that such a popular thread like this is making popular resembled threads across SSC.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 01:57 PM   #63
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Posted by hollowman in Post 47 of this thread . . .



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That lovely building is the Royal Arcade
Thinking about the quality of the exterior AND the interior (we all know the interior from the 'mock-up' in Swan House and Bar 55 - I think it's covered up now in Linekers) this retail building would have been a really fantastic part of "the EPS retail-led development' - seeing as that is exactly where it was!!

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Old October 25th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #64
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Maybe they should recreate it? Could be full of high end shops like the arcades in Leeds with Harvey Nics next door... wishful thinking!
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:19 PM   #65
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Maybe they should recreate it? Could be full of high end shops like the arcades in Leeds with Harvey Nics next door... wishful thinking!
I think it is a good idea for a charity project personally, bit like the castle being rebuilt in berlin or the plan to rebuild euston arch. get celebs to back it, people to donate, give youngsters a chance to learn a new skill etc.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #66
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any guesses as to what this is?

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Old October 25th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #67
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The inside of the now demolished Westgate House???
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Old October 25th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #68
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The inside of the now demolished Westgate House???
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Old October 26th, 2009, 12:03 AM   #69
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that's odd, my post is above the post it is replying to.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #70
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Maybe it has something to do with the time changing because of the clocks going back an hour? It is very odd though.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 12:16 AM   #71
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any guesses as to what this is?

Is it the inside of St Nicholas Cathedral?

(But, I don't think it is!)

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Old October 26th, 2009, 12:39 AM   #72
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Nope - it is the inside of Tynemouth Priory as Sir Giles Gilbert Scott imagined it to be. He actually made a proposal to rebuild it to those specifications in 1878. Crazy huh?
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Old October 26th, 2009, 01:58 AM   #73
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Various photos posted by hollow man on 25th October 2009, in the "Port of Tyne" thread . . .

[QUOTE=hollow man;45174301]The mouth of the Tyne, a hive of activity, date unknown:



[QUOTE=hollow man;45173563]Here's Tyne Dock in 1949!, Most of it is just a huge car park now!:



[QUOTE=hollow man;45175265]Here's Tynemouth Pier in 1886, a very different shape to what we have today:



Here's the break in the pier in 1901, which I imagine promted the building of the current pier?


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Old October 26th, 2009, 03:00 AM   #74
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PHOTOS from the "Newgate Street Re-development" thread, posted on 26th October 2009 . . .

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A view I hope we all see again VERY soon, next to the Rose & Crown on Newgate Street . . .
This photo was taken in 1966, and shows a 'construction site' next to the Rose & Crown. Sadly (and unlike the next time we see this view) this consruction site was for the building of the Swallow Hotel and Newgate Shopping Centre.


And here is the same view shortly after, and as I mostly remember it . . as The Swallow Hotel, which it was for most of it's life.


With LUCK, the above will all be gone SOON!

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Old October 26th, 2009, 10:36 AM   #75
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nice comparison shots there ...

it's a bloody disgrace that 60's monstrosity ever got planning permission.

btw .. you'd think they'd have cleaned up the filthy frontage of the 'Rose and Crown' at some point ..

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nice comparison shots there ...

it's a bloody disgrace that that 60's monstrosity ever got planning permission.

btw .. you'd think they'd have cleaned up the filthy frontage of the 'Rose and Crown' at some point ..
Mind, I (much) preferred what was there before they demolished the site to build the Swallow Hotel . . .



So many mistakes made . .
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Old October 26th, 2009, 01:33 PM   #77
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another shot from the early 60's

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so that's what we call progress !!

just what were they thinking

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Old October 26th, 2009, 03:49 PM   #78
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I cannot believe that Empire building was knocked down on Newgate street. Imagine how great it would look today instead of the desolate 60's nonesense we have to currently endure.

A damned disgrace tbh.
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I cannot believe that Empire building was knocked down on Newgate street. Imagine how great it would look today instead of the desolate 60's nonesense we have to currently endure.
But what would it be used for? How many derelict theatres/cinemas does a city need? At the moment there's only the Paramount/Odeon, Pilgrim Street and no-one can think of what to do with that.

I rather like the Newgate Centre, though part of the reason - it's nice and peaceful - may underlie its commercial demise. Anyway, I also like its rational modernistic lines, though it's a shame it was roofed over in the 90s.

I also fear for the future of the independent businesses there. I doubt there will be such variety in whatever replacement is built.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #80
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But what would it be used for? How many derelict theatres/cinemas does a city need? At the moment there's only the Paramount/Odeon, Pilgrim Street and no-one can think of what to do with that.

I rather like the Newgate Centre, though part of the reason - it's nice and peaceful - may underlie its commercial demise. Anyway, I also like its rational modernistic lines, though it's a shame it was roofed over in the 90s.

I also fear for the future of the independent businesses there. I doubt there will be such variety in whatever replacement is built.
At the present time there are five theatres in Newcastle . .

The Tyne Theatre
Live Theatre
The Peoples Theatre
Theatre Royal
Northern Stage

and a number of City Centre live music venues . .

City Hall
Carling Academy
Sage Gateshead
Metro Radio Arena

so I would imagine that an excellently situated venue like the Empire Theatre would have found a use, fairly easily I would have thought.

Yes, the situation with 'pop in when you want' venues such as cinemas, appear to have moved (mostly) out of town, like furniture shops and big supermarkets (drive in, park up, drive home, type places) but had the Empire survived, I don't think it would be comparable to a cinema.

This is just my opinion, but if the Empire had survived the 'great plague of the 1960s it may well have had a good future, and still be having it now!

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