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Old October 31st, 2009, 10:21 AM   #121
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Can anyoine tell me what i can find in the Newcastle Lit & Phil building? Is it free to get in? what do i do, what do i go there for etc? Seems really interesting.
Hi Godcrasher

You will find all the details by following the LINK in here . .

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=990561

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Old October 31st, 2009, 11:49 AM   #122
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VICKERS ARMSTRONG, Elswick Works

The entrance in 1969 . . .


The ‘armament shop’ in 1969, when it was scheduled for demolition . . .


1907, HMS Invincible, with the nearby Elswick Works, in the background . . .

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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:36 PM   #123
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The Central Station Fire, of 1961 . . .

We started this 'Historic Newcastle' thread with photos of (and the story of) the CALLERS FIRE of 1969. Well, this fire is not as famous, and fortunately did not result in the destruction of the main building, but it is still very interesting to see photos of this devastation, in such a familiar and frequently visited location today!



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Old October 31st, 2009, 03:24 PM   #124
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Like the pic of Vickers-Armstrong Elswick - where exactly was the entrance?
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Old November 1st, 2009, 08:16 AM   #125
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Like the pic of Vickers-Armstrong Elswick - where exactly was the entrance?
Greg,

I'm trying to get hold of an 'aerial' shot of these works - which I know I have somewhere - and (hopefully) that will indicate whereabouts that entrance was, in relation to the rest of the area.

Even better, does anyone else have an aerial shot or know the answer to Gregs question?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:50 AM   #126
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Popped in the Laing the other week for the first time in about 7/8 years, and they have a very good exhibition of old paintings/maps/drawings of Newcastle throughout the ages. Like this thread, it can make rather depressing viewing, when looking at old buildings, and reading the note by the side....demolished in 196? for some concrete monstrosity. On the great fire, there's a very good, (and rather dramatic) description of the events on wikipedia that I read a while back.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 02:11 PM   #127
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Some good old photos here http://www.francisfrith.com/newcastle-upon-tyne/photos/

I especially liked the Sandgate Quayside one and the one with the tram skirting the Monument
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 02:24 PM   #128
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From looking at the 1919 map I am guessing that the Elswick Works entrance was somewhere in the vicinity of the BP garage on Scotswood Road, and the works itself would have taken up most of the Business Park site.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 03:48 PM   #129
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Some good old photos here http://www.francisfrith.com/newcastle-upon-tyne/photos/

I especially liked the Sandgate Quayside one and the one with the tram skirting the Monument
Thanks Greg, I have added the above LINK to the Newcastle Websites thread, within . . .

CATEGORY 7 - PHOTOS WEBSITES (ARCHIVE & CONTEMPORARY) AND LOCAL HISTORY.

See . . http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...81&postcount=1
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 05:37 PM   #130
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Elswick Works

There were at least 3 entrances to the Elswick Works.The main entrance is actually on the photo just to the left of the Vickers sign(the road markings are just about discernable) which went under the railway line. The others are at the bottom of Water St.I am not sure if Water St. still exists and a bridge over the railway line which led into 29 Shop, about halfway between the other entrances.I hope this makes sence.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 07:27 PM   #131
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Like the pic of Vickers-Armstrong Elswick - where exactly was the entrance?
Greg, re the above and then your note at Post 140 and then admurans post above, I have found what I was looking for . . . but I am still not certain if it fully answers your question?

Anyway, here goes, article (including pictures of the works) then an enlargement of the picture of the works on its own . . may be from "too early" an era though.





A 'reminder' of the photo that prompted your question . . .
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 11:29 AM   #132
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The 'Royal Yacht Britannia' at the Quayside in 1977.
During the Queens 1977 Silver Jubilee Visit to Newcastle . .

This aerial photo really shows how the Quayside has changed, as the Royal Yacht is berthed near to the 'Quayside Sheds' (where all the big East Quayside office blocks are now) and the (backs of) the old Procter & Gamble manufacturing division buildings on City Road (far right of photo). The Quayside has certainly changed a lot in only the last 30 years. Also, you can see on the Gateshead side, in the below cutting from the Evening Chronicle of Friday July 15th 1977, that the Baltic Flour Mills building is still surrounded by all the other buildings that made up the flour mill site in 1977:


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Old November 3rd, 2009, 06:42 PM   #133
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Nice image there Historian ..

Heres a few more taken just down the river a few years earlier

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.. Ouseburn Valley and Tyne Looking South (late 60's)

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.. Ousburn Valley and Byker (pre Byker Wall) Looking East (late 60's)
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Bigg Market, 1933. How could they get rid of the old town hall?



Other side of the town hall:



and a glimpse, to the left, of what was there before westgate house/norwich union house was built, look at that beautiful roof!:


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Some further pics of the westgate house location, seems that building with the roof got a dramatic and well crafted extension!:



Yes, one of the buildings replaced by Westgate House was the old Evening Chronicle & Journal building (extreme left of photo, above).

When they moved, they (the Chronny) thought their NEW 'Thomson House', on the nearby Groat Market, was GRRREAT!! As this cutting from The Journal of MONDAY MAY 3rd 1965, shows . . .


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Bigg Market, 1933. How could they get rid of the old town hall?


The old Town Hall was (said to be) FAR too small and cramped. (and it was!!) so they needed a new Civic Centre . . .

. . . but - they DIDN'T HAVE TO KNOCK THE OLD ONE DOWN!!!!!

Other uses for it could have been found - easily. There just wasn't the WILL, to do so.

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I would suspect they needed to sell off the site to fund the cost of the new Civic Centre!
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Old November 4th, 2009, 05:59 PM   #138
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Great photos!!

When you see what utter shite is in place of the old Town Hall today it really is despicable how this could have been allowed to happen. Same goes for the Westgate House area.

Idiots.

Sorry, rant over.
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Great photos!!

When you see what utter shite is in place of the old Town Hall today it really is despicable how this could have been allowed to happen. Same goes for the Westgate House area.

Idiots.

Sorry, rant over.
I agree. I personally think they need to knock down the existing buildings on the site of the old town hall and turn the whole area into a park stretching from the cathedral to the Bigg Market; call it Cathedral Gardens.
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I agree. I personally think they need to knock down the existing buildings on the site of the old town hall and turn the whole area into a park stretching from the cathedral to the Bigg Market; call it Cathedral Gardens.
Hmm... an arena for pissing, puking and punch-ups? Not sure. Anyway, from a townscape point of view that block ought to be occupied, so as one walks down the Bigg/Cloth/Groat Markets you get glimpses of the Cathedral before the 'Big Reveal' as you emerge onto Mosley Street. Too many open spaces destroy the 'grain' of the city.
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