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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #101
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An-124-100 Ruslan


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Old April 30th, 2013, 02:07 AM   #102
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Old April 30th, 2013, 02:12 PM   #103
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Good plane. Built in the Soviet Union.
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Old May 1st, 2013, 01:37 AM   #104
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An-70, An-140, An-148 and An-158 were designed by the Antonov Design Bureau in Kyiv, Ukraine in 1992-2012. An-225 Mriya & An-124 Ruslan were designed by the Antonov Design Bureau in Kyiv, the capital of the Ukrainian SSR. All these aircraft were designed by Ukrainian designers.

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Old May 1st, 2013, 02:23 AM   #105
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Old May 1st, 2013, 02:54 AM   #106
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Antonov does a very, very bad job of marketing their products. It is so sad cos they can do so much better. They do not build a detailed website and provide adequate information, nor do they update the website. They should learn from the Embraer website.

Having said that, Igor L., .....I need a favour from you. Could you please use your contacts to find us a large and clear image of the new An-158 LOPA (Layout of Passenger Accomodation). It is unfortunate that I have to ask you since the website does a very poor job and the image there is so tiny and unclear! You seem to do a better job of marketing Antonov products than the entire marketing department of Antonov does!

By the way, the first serially produced AN-158 has been delivered to Cubana. It is a sweet Aircraft! Once again, it will be nice to see and have reliable information about the following:
1) AN-158 (LOPA) - Layout of Passenger Accomodation
2) AN-158 (Engine) - What specific engine does it use? (...even Wikipedia does not have this information! Is it the D436-148 or the D436-T1???)

Thank you in advance.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 03:49 AM   #107
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Igor L,

You will have to forgive me but I am a persistent guy who happens to be hungry for information. I have consumed just about every report and literature available on the internet on Ukrainian produced Aircrafts and Aircraft engines. I am pleading with you to help me find reliable information on the following subjects:

1) Antonov AN-158 (LOPA) - Layout of Passenger Accomodation
2) Antonov AN-158 (Engine) - What specific engine does it use? (...even Wikipedia does not have this information! Is it a variant of D436-148 or the D436-T1???)
3) What is the fan diameter of the Progress D436-148 turbofan used on the AN-148? (Some online websites claim 1390mm (56 inches) while others claim 1550mm (61 inches). There are lots of conflicting reports on this while both 'Motor Sich' and Ivchenko-Progress websites are pretty much silent on this particular issue)

Any help and information regarding these questions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 01:16 PM   #108
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1) Antonov AN-158 (LOPA) - Layout of Passenger Accomodation
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Video from the Cuban TV on AN-158


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2) Antonov AN-158 (Engine) - What specific engine does it use? (...even Wikipedia does not have this information! Is it a variant of D436-148 or the D436-T1???)
It's D436-148, fan diameter 1373mm.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #109
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Old May 4th, 2013, 08:18 PM   #110
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It's D436-148, fan diameter 1373mm.
Rumoruka, I believe your information is very correct. I do have access to a document produced by Butterworth-Heinemann on modern turbofans and the data there duplicates your information. (I am sorry, I always look for verification of information from more than one source)

At 1373mm (1.373 meters), this will be equivalent to 54 inches fan diameter. Thank you.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #111
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I was aware that the AN-158 used the same engine as the AN-148 (the D-436-148), however what I couldn't be sure of was that the Take-off Thrust of the D436-148 was the same in the two aircraft variants. In the AN-148, the turbofan produces 6830 kgf of Thrust (15030 lbs). Perhaps in the AN-158, the FADEC adjustment might give a different Thrust output?? Motor-Sich website indicates a maximum Take-off Thrust of 7010 kgf (15420 lbs). I guess we will find out in the nearest future....
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Old May 4th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #112
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midas02, thank you for being interested in Antonov, especially with An-148/158 family.

Regarding engines, there are two variants of D-436-148:
  • D-436-148B (short and medium range), and;
  • D-436-148D (long range).

Takeoff thrust for the first one is 6,570*, while for the second one - 7,010*.
Thus, I believe that An-148-100A/B are equipped with D-436-148B. An-148-100E/An-158 with D-436-148D.

* - Motor Sich and Ivchenko Progress provide different numbers, as they calculate them on different grounds, e.g. temperature, hight and etc.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #113
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Question: is the AN-148 or AN-158 capable of carrying two cabins? If so, what would be its ideal configuration, and what kind of seats could be installed in the Business cabin?
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Old May 4th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #114
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I appreciate all efforts to answer my numerous questions. The only outstanding and unanswered question is that of AN-158's LOPA (Layout of Passenger Accommodation). I do believe that the LOPA chart is not available online cos I have spent many precious hours looking for it to no avail. The only layout chart available is on Antonov's own website however it is too tiny and cannot be enlarged!

Rumoruka, ....this is what a LOPA looks like; (below is one of the numerous LOPA for Airbus A330;

http://www.airlinequality.com/Experi...F_A330-200.pdf

Also, for those who are interested, I do have the layout (LOPA) for the AN-148 aircraft. Take a look at this comprehensive document provided by IFC-Leasing (Ilyushin Finance). This detailed document is the kind of information that one would expect to get from Antonov's marketing department. See below;

http://www.ifc-leasing.com/netcat_fi...148-100abe.pdf

I hope someone will come up soon and share the LOPA for the new AN-158.
Cheers.
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Question: is the AN-148 or AN-158 capable of carrying two cabins? If so, what would be its ideal configuration, and what kind of seats could be installed in the Business cabin?

Yes, ...they are capable of carrying pax in two class configurations. You can see the layout (LOPA) in the document I provided in the previous comment.

The AN-148 is capable of carrying 75 Pax at 32 inch pitch OR 80 Pax at 30 inch pitch (both single class configuration). However, it can also accommodate either 73 Pax in two classes or with more generous space allocation, it can handle 68 Pax in two class configuration (see LOPA diagram in document (scroll down)).
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Also, for those who are interested, I do have the layout (LOPA) for the AN-148 aircraft. Take a look at this comprehensive document provided by IFC-Leasing (Ilyushin Finance). This detailed document is the kind of information that one would expect to get from Antonov's marketing department. See below;

http://www.ifc-leasing.com/netcat_fi...148-100abe.pdf

I hope someone will come up soon and share the LOPA for the new AN-158.
Cheers.
Thanks! I believe that soon An-158's LOPA will be also available IFC-Leasing's website.
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Yes, ...they are capable of carrying pax in two class configurations. You can see the layout (LOPA) in the document I provided in the previous comment.

The AN-148 is capable of carrying 75 Pax at 32 inch pitch OR 80 Pax at 30 inch pitch (both single class configuration). However, it can also accommodate either 73 Pax in two classes or with more generous space allocation, it can handle 68 Pax in two class configuration (see LOPA diagram in document (scroll down)).
In support of midas02, here is a cabin overview of An-158:


http://spotters.net.ua/file/?id=28357&size=large
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I took a very detailed look at the document provided by IFC-Leasing (Ilyushin Finance) today and discovered some information that I had somehow overlooked!!

I can now affirm and confirm that the fan diameter for the Progress D436-148 engine is truly 1373mm (1.373 meters) cos this document also confirms it. I can't forgive myself for failing to see it all along and thereby pestering Igor L's life

Another interesting information that I have been able to piece together is that although the D436-148 is capable of delivering 7010kgf of Thrust at Take-off (15,420 lbs ft), the engine has however been derated in the 75 seat AN-148 aircraft to deliver only 6400kgf (14,080 lbs ft) at Take-off. Very interesting!!

I presume that the same engine will be uprated (through FADEC adjustments) to deliver the full Thrust of 7010kgf in the new AN-158. Makes a lot more sense to me now.

I am going to spend the rest of the week improving the poor information provided by wikipedia. The information there is largely incorrect and outdated.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #119
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In support of midas02, here is a cabin overview of An-158:

http://spotters.net.ua/file/?id=28357&size=large
That really looks like a respectable Premium Class cabin indeed for a small regional aircraft... I'd also say the Business Class seats look comfy, and I wonder if that aircraft can also support PTV as well.
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