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Old February 20th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #1
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Old February 20th, 2009, 11:00 PM   #2
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Old February 20th, 2009, 11:03 PM   #3
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Nice addition. I am wondering how this city survives economically.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 11:38 AM   #4
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Nice addition. I am wondering how this city survives economically.
In Permet the communist producing industry wasn't destroyed. So that many of the the citizens of Permet are employed in the food industry. There is also a non-productive industries (service sector, gastronomy, etc.)...
Beside this, there is also some kind of natural tourism (canyoning, canoe on the Vjosa River, and so on)...
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 09:48 AM   #5
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Permeti eshte vetem per 2 dite te javes....te shtune e te djele....pas zhurmes se Tiranes..Permeti eshte vendi ideal te rrish rehat ne qetesi gjate fundjaves!!
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Old February 24th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #6
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Permeti eshte vetem per 2 dite te javes....te shtune e te djele....pas zhurmes se Tiranes..Permeti eshte vendi ideal te rrish rehat ne qetesi gjate fundjaves!!
Po pse? Sikur Tirana ka ndonje program kulturor apo shoqeror per te ofruar. Vetem kafene, zhurme autoveturash dhe njerez qe rrine kot neper kafene.

Apo ka diēka me shume per te ofruar?
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Old February 25th, 2009, 03:31 AM   #7
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Po pse? Sikur Tirana ka ndonje program kulturor apo shoqeror per te ofruar. Vetem kafene, zhurme autoveturash dhe njerez qe rrine kot neper kafene.

Apo ka diēka me shume per te ofruar?
Me shume se Permeti ka. Njesoj sikur te thuashe qe New York-u c'te ofron me shume se trafik, dhembje koke, dhe studentet e NYU ne kafenio.
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Old February 25th, 2009, 10:21 AM   #8
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Obviously no one has ever been to Permet.

After 2 hours...you go MAD with boredom...and you move on to Korca or something else.

The city survives on emigration...not canoes on the Vjosa.
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Old February 25th, 2009, 11:27 AM   #9
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Po pse? Sikur Tirana ka ndonje program kulturor apo shoqeror per te ofruar. Vetem kafene, zhurme autoveturash dhe njerez qe rrine kot neper kafene.

Apo ka diēka me shume per te ofruar?
Po flet per Kryeqytetin dhe po e krahason me nje qytet si Permeti qe ka vetem 1 rruge?....Tirana ofron shume por varet se ēfare njerezit zgjedhin nga ato qe ofron Tirana..(dikush kafenete..etj etj)
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Old February 25th, 2009, 12:58 PM   #10
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Obviously no one has ever been to Permet.

After 2 hours...you go MAD with boredom...and you move on to Korca or something else.

The city survives on emigration...not canoes on the Vjosa.
Mė mirė se unė s'besoj se e njeh njeri Pėrmetin. Unė kam mamanė nga Pėrmeti dhe e njoh shumė mirė si qytet. Ndoshta mė bėhet mbarė tė shkoj kėtė verė. Kam shumė vite pa shkuar. Shumica e Pėrmetarėve (qytetarėve) janė larguar nė Tiranė, Greqi, Itali, SHBA etj. Dikur ka qenė njė qytet me tė vėrtetė shumė i bukur dhe i pastėr, dhe njerėzit me kulturė. Edhe tani besoj se ėshtė qyteti mė i pastėr dhe i mirėmbajtur nė Shqipėri. Unė jam larė sa herė nė Vjosė dhe ujin e ka shumė tė pastėr. Po shkova kam pėr tė mbushur njė kartė me foto.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 07:17 PM   #11
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Me shume se Permeti ka. Njesoj sikur te thuashe qe New York-u c'te ofron me shume se trafik, dhembje koke, dhe studentet e NYU ne kafenio.
New York te ofron shume gjera te ndryshme. Kurse Tirana nga aspekti kulturor qytet i vdekur eshte. Aty e pata me shume fjalen une, e jo te kafenete apo te rruget(kafenete ishin vetem nje simbol thjeshtezimi per gjithe atmosferen ne Tirane)! Tirana ka vetem dy kinema per 800'000 banore, ka nje Teater Kombetar qe nje here ne jave ben shfaqje, nje galeri artesh, qe gjysmen e sortimentit vizual nuk i ka ne galeri. Ca ka Tirana per tu ndjere krenar?
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Tirana ka te tera ato qe thua, dhe dy tre gjera me shume qe ke harruar (universitet, qendra tregtie, kafenio, klube profesionale, koncerte etc.). Nuk ka sa New Yorku, me pak se dhe Athina ose Barcelona, mbase njesoje ose me shume nga Shkupi, dhe shume me shume nga c'do qytet tjeter ne shqiperi, sidomos nga Permeti.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 09:07 AM   #13
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Tirana ka ato qe kan te gjitha qytetet e tjera bashkohore...me me pak se 1 milion banor...dhe mbase me shume se qytete te tjera me me pak se 1 milion banor.

Pse sa here ne jave duhet te bej teatri kombetar shfaqe?? Muzera dhe ekspozita arti etj ka sa te duash ne Tirane...problemi eshte ke niveli i artistve qe pervec ca goma makinash te lyera dhe ca bidona uji te ngjitura me njeri tjetrin...s'bejne dot gje tjeter. Dhe per kinema jam i sigurte qe ka me teper se dy.

Pastaj...pervec restoranteve, kafeneve, bareve dhe klubeve...ku shkojne tjeter njerzit ne boten e "kulturuar"?? 5 here ne jave ne muze arti dhe ne teater?

Mbase jam une onjoronti qe s'shkon ne muzera arti dhe opera ne menyre te rregullt??
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Nice addition. I am wondering how this city survives economically.
Yea strange. One of the very few good things the communism did for us was urbanize equally most of Albania. These cities now survive economically because of their past.

For that we should be grateful that Albania does not have any primate city. Maybe Tirana could be considered one in the future as everybody seems to be flocking there. Primate cities are those cities where urbanization has been chaotic or uneven. Usually what happens is people flood to these cities creating slums and areas of informality. We know how many informal areas are on the periphery of Tirana. That's not good for smaller towns like Permet either since it most likely results in brain drain affecting local economy. :S

China has followed a good model. They discourage people by law to move from rural areas to urban. I think they call it the Hokou System. Actually, they have been successful for a lot of things.

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Old March 5th, 2009, 08:23 PM   #15
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I would not go as far though to say that communism did well to urbanize most of Albania since Albania remained under communism the least urbanized country in the region, and by a wide margin. That is not too efficient, and when we see the informal areas of Tirana, we might be paying for our hesitation to allow this movement earlier.
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The informal areas in Tirana may be informal...but they are hardly "slums"...and with some investment in public works in the future they can become genuine "suburbs" pretty easily.

Anyway...this has nothing to do with Permet...which is a village by its own right
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Pse sa here ne jave duhet te bej teatri kombetar shfaqe?? Muzera dhe ekspozita arti etj ka sa te duash ne Tirane...problemi eshte ke niveli i artistve qe pervec ca goma makinash te lyera dhe ca bidona uji te ngjitura me njeri tjetrin...s'bejne dot gje tjeter. Dhe per kinema jam i sigurte qe ka me teper se dy.
Ne Münster (Gjermani) me 270'000 banore ke 6 dite ne jave shfaqje teatrore. Ne Zvicer ne qytetin e quajtur Basel (me 200'000 banore) ke 9 teatro, 14 kinema.
Kurse Tirana vetem dy Kinema ka. I kam numeruar une: Millenium dhe ate te Sheraton-i.

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Pastaj...pervec restoranteve, kafeneve, bareve dhe klubeve...ku shkojne tjeter njerzit ne boten e "kulturuar"?? 5 here ne jave ne muze arti dhe ne teater?

Mbase jam une onjoronti qe s'shkon ne muzera arti dhe opera ne menyre te rregullt??
Ne boten e 'kulturuar' ke koncerte, ke kinema vere (te hapur), ke vende per bowling, ke fusha sportive, etj etj. ne Tirane ke vetem kafene, nje teatro, dy kinema dhe 6 apo 7 fusha sportive.
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Ne Münster (Gjermani) me 270'000 banore ke 6 dite ne jave shfaqje teatrore
Edhe?? Sa here shkojne njerzit ne teater?? Une kam nja 7-8 vjet pa vajtur...

Thash do jem...onjoront.

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Ne Zvicer ne qytetin e quajtur Basel (me 200'000 banore) ke 9 teatro, 14 kinema.
Epo nje katund ne Zvicer paska me teper teatro dhe kinema se nje qytet i madh Amerikan Bravo per ty qe i paske numuruar.

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Ne boten e 'kulturuar' ke koncerte, ke kinema vere (te hapur), ke vende per bowling, ke fusha sportive, etj etj
Bowling na doli veprimtari e "kulturuar" tani?? Thash pra une jam onjoront. Te gjitha ato qe the...ka ne Tirane.

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ne Tirane ke vetem kafene, nje teatro, dy kinema dhe 6 apo 7 fusha sportive.
Po mire o burr pse ankohesh kot...rri atje ku ke teatro 7 dite ne jave. Po mos vazhdo me me kte muhabet absolutisht absurd.
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Edhe?? Sa here shkojne njerzit ne teater?? Une kam nja 7-8 vjet pa vajtur...

Thash do jem...onjoront.
Cdo dit te javes (nga e hena deri te premten) qe kam vajtur ne teatro, ka qene mbushur plot me njerez.

Eshte puna jote, se sa here shkon ne teatro apo kinema. Por mos pretendo, qe vetem sepse ti nuk shkon shpesh nuk na duhen me shume shfaqje teatrale apo filma ne kinema. Sepse ka njerez, qe do preferonin te shkonin me shpesh ne kinema apo teatro, por nuk ka progam te mjaftueshem.

Mos vajtja ne kinema apo teatro nuk eshte injorance, por prretendimi, qe teatroja dhe kinemaja nuk qenken institucione te rendesishme kulturore dhe pretendimi, qe nuk paska interes per institucione te tilla, kjo eshte injorance dhe intolerance.

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Epo nje katund ne Zvicer paska me teper teatro dhe kinema se nje qytet i madh Amerikan Bravo per ty qe i paske numuruar.
Nuk ka nevoj te ma besosh. Por mbase ti duhet ta dish, se sa teatro dhe kinema ka Basel (qytet i madh sipas numrit te banoreve e jo fshat), me gjithese nuk ke qene asnjehere ne Zvicer apo Basel. Hajde logjike hajde!

Ti mos ma krahaso Zvicren me Ameriken, ku Zvicra ka nje standart jetese shume me te larte se sa Amerika (ku jeta kulturore eshte pjese e standartit te jeteses).


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Bowling na doli veprimtari e "kulturuar" tani?? Thash pra une jam onjoront. Te gjitha ato qe the...ka ne Tirane.
Jo, nuk tha askush, qe bowling eshte verprimtari "kulturuar", por vetem si alternative qe duhet ta ofroj nje qytet. Ky ishte vetem nje shembull nga qindra shembuj te tjere.


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Po mire o burr pse ankohesh kot...rri atje ku ke teatro 7 dite ne jave. Po mos vazhdo me me kte muhabet absolutisht absurd.
Nuk eshte muhabet absurd. Ceshtja eshte, qe shume njerez i ngrine larte ne piedestal Tiranen, siku eshte kushedi ēfare qyteti. Por realiteti eshte tjeter, Tirana s'ka jete kulturore! Dhe ky eshte realitet i hidhur. Vetem pse ty nuk te intereson programi kulturor i nje teatroje, apo organizatori koncertesh, nuk do te thote, qe edhe te tjereve nuk u intereson.

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Tirana ka te nejeten jete "kulturore" qe kan edhe qytete te tjera Ballkanike ose Mesdhetare te te njejtes madhesi. Kaq eshte puna. Nuk ka nevoje per 5 teatro kur edhe 1-2 qe jane nuk kan aq frekuentim sa per te mbuhsur 1 dite ne jave.

Dhe BTW kinema dhe teatro jane dy gjera shume ndryshe nga njera tjetra...

Une e pranoj shume mire qe jeta "kulturore" ne Shqiperi eshte ne nivelin Zero. Po kjo vjen thjesht nga fakti qe njerzit qe merren me "kulture" ne Shqiperi jane te nivelit MINUS ZERO. Ata qe ishin me talent...kan ikur...ose nuk merren se s'ka fitim. Ata qe merren jane zakonisht kalamoqe 20 vjecar...dhe une nuk mund te imagjinoj te shkoj ne nje shfaqe teatrale ose nje ekspozite ne Shqiperi te organizuar nga studentet e Akademise se Arteve.

Tani boll u ankove kot...
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