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Old December 1st, 2005, 02:21 PM   #61
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Is the whole area bloged off, or can you get close to it?
You can get a little closer to it on the back side of the building. The street (Kvæsthusgade) running along the back is closed to traffic, but open to pedestrians...
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 05:06 PM   #62
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Tivoli will present plans for a new luxury hotel in the park to the city councill within 6 months....Dont know if this is a new design or the old one...

From an article on euroinvestor;

"Tivoli satser på, er de velhavende gæster, der skal overnatte i byen. Til det har den gamle have planer om at opføre et luksushotel i H.C. Andersen-slottet. Og inden for et halvt år venter direktøren, at hotelplanerne bliver præsenteret for Københavns Kommune.

- Vi har mange gæster, der efterspørger et sted at overnatte. For os betyder det desuden, at vi får et fast antal besøgende, vi kan regne med, fortæller Lars Liebst.

At det netop bliver luksus-modellen, Tivoli har planer om at føre ud i livet, skyldes ifølge direktøren selv, at markedet for trestjernede hoteller er mættet.

- Der mangler hoteller, der er af god kvalitet og som er unikke. Det hul vil vi gerne fylde, siger han.

Tivoli forandrer sig hele tiden, og det sker med udgangspunkt i de to umiddelbare modpoler "tradition" og "innovation".

- "Tivoli bliver aldrig færdigt", sagde grundlæggeren Carstensen. Det betyder, at vi skal blive ved at udvikle haven. Vores strategi har indtil videre givet flere gæster og bedre omsætning. Det siger mig, at kursen har været den rigtige, siger Lars Liebst."


the entire article can be seen here....http://www.finansnyheder.dk/news/Sho...toryId=9307486
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 05:50 PM   #63
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Let's hope it's a tall luxury hotel then ... 200 m wouldn't be bad
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 06:30 PM   #64
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if they are gonna build it in the hca castle, then it will probably not be very tall...
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Old December 5th, 2005, 07:04 PM   #65
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i think that the øresundsregion must be the new skyline in copenhagen. whit buildings around 120-170 meters.
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Old December 5th, 2005, 07:34 PM   #66
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Not likely...sadly....good thought though...
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Old December 8th, 2005, 01:29 PM   #67
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Offentliggjort 8. december 2005 03:00

Sydhavnen kan få ny bydel

Af CASPER SVOLDGAARD - JP.DK

Den nedslidte sydhavn syd for Islands Brygge bliver måske til en helt ny bydel med kanal og sandstrand.

Arkitektoniske perler, rekreative pladser og en kunstig kanal med sandstrand kommer måske til at erstatte det nedslidte industrislum, der i dag kendetegner Artillerivej syd for Islands Brygge.

Et enigt bygge- og teknikudvalg godkendte i går et foreløbigt lokalplansforslag til området Artillerivej Syd.

Går lokalplanen igennem økonomiudvalget, hvor det skal behandles 13. december, og bliver den vedtaget af Borgerrepræsentationen og de involverede parter, betyder det 1.500-1.700 nye boliger i området, der er afgrænset af havnen, Drechselsgade, Amager Fælled og Nokken. Dertil kommer en række serviceerhverv og offentlige formål som daginstitutioner og lignende.

I øjeblikket er området et ca. 17 hektar stort nedslidt erhvervsområde, som benyttes af et garageanlæg for busser, nogle autolakerere, et bageri og en bogtrykker. Alt andet industri er nedlagt eller er ved at blive det.


Højhusplaner

Boligerne i området skal, som lokalplanen ser ud, opføres i både etagebyggeri og i rækkehuse med en gennemsnitlig størrelse på minimum 90-100 kvadratmeter pr. bolig.

Og København må nok forberede sig på endnu en højhusdiskussion, da en del af bygningerne bliver op til 45 meter høje - tre meter højere end de omdiskuterede højhuse, som ikke fik lov til at stå på Krøyers Plads.

Til gengæld lover Københavns Kommunes Plan & Arkitektur, at arkitekterne vil tage højde for, at området skal være rekreativt og spændende at færdes i.

Organisk og let

Udgangspunktet er en række organiske og lette højhuse, som mellem det oprindelige byggeri ved Islands Brygge skal understrege mangfoldigheden i arkitekturen.
Også den kunstige kanal, som skal skære bydelen, skal understrege det organiske præg tæt ved Nokkens kolonihavehuse. I en såkaldt landskabsform skal den bugte sig ind i Amager og gøre plads til en sandstrand og et maritimt miljø, der yderligere understreges af kajpladser til adskillige husbåde.

Den nye bydel kræver også en helt ny infrastruktur. De gamle veje slettes, og der lægges nye, og Artillerivej flyttes ind mod Amager Fælled for at tage det værste pres af trafikken.

Området ligger nemlig langt fra nærmeste S-tog- og metrostation, hvilket uundgåeligt betyder flere biler i det beboede område. Det forsøges dog afværget med forskellige tiltag i lokalplanen, som minimum vil betyde trafikale udgifter på 60-70 mio. kr.

Et beløb, som især Enhedslisten finder afgørende for, om lokalplanen kan vedtages.

Indflytning i 2008

»Vi sender planen i høring, men den må absolut ikke vedtages, uden at vi er sikre på, at de penge også bliver bevilget til trafikken,« siger Enhedslistens medlem af bygge- og teknikudvalget, Mikkel Warming.
Kommer den nye plan igennem, vil den fordoble Islands Brygges havnenære byudviklingsområde Havnestad, som området nord for A-Huset og ved de ombyggede Wennberg-siloer hedder.

Før det store projekt kan komme i gang, skal der en del nedrivningsarbejde til, men ifølge arkitekt Rita Justesen fra Plan & Arkitektur kan de første byggetilladelser gives lige før sommerferien næste år.

De første boliger kan så sandsynligvis være klar til indflytning i 2008, hvorefter resten af byggeriet forventes at vare fire til otte år.
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45 meters? what a ******* joke....
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Old December 8th, 2005, 01:52 PM   #68
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45 meters... that will totally f*** up my view from the parking lot on top of Fisketorvet shopping mall.....

Why not 80m or 100m there's nobody living there right now... it's the closest thing to run down slum we have in Copenhagen, why would anybody mind a couple of highrises on the border of f**** nothing....

I want a damn skyscraper!!!
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Old December 8th, 2005, 01:55 PM   #69
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45 meters... that will totally f*** up my view from the parking lot on top of Fisketorvet shopping mall.....

Why not 80m or 100m there's nobody living there right now... it's the closest thing to run down slum we have in Copenhagen, why would anybody mind a couple of highrises on the border of f**** nothing....

I want a damn skyscraper!!!
yeah i know...So stupid...There are talks in the papers today that the companies cant find enough space, in the 5000-10000 m2 range...Gee, i wonder why? Everywhere else on this planet they realise that the answer is to build taller...But no, not in copenhagen...
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Old December 8th, 2005, 02:09 PM   #70
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yeah i know...So stupid...There are talks in the papers today that the companies cant find enough space, in the 5000-10000 m2 range...Gee, i wonder why? Everywhere else on this planet they realise that the answer is to build taller...But no, not in copenhagen...
It's sad... We'll end up with a scattered LA style city Spreading all across northern Zealand with small commercial areas and a lot of boring sprawl - stupid!

We need something to put us on the map....

I'm not asking for much... I only want one 200m+ and some 5-10 120m+ towers... That's not that much to ask for... especially with the lack of apartments in Copenhagen at the time.... but nooo
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Old December 8th, 2005, 03:02 PM   #71
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Wow!!! 45m!!! thats friggen TALL!!! That's like what, 3 or 4 stories

We need to do what arkoh suggested that we do a little while ago, start our own protesting group, where we do nothing but protest for more skyscrapers in Copenhagen!
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Old December 8th, 2005, 04:21 PM   #72
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It's sad... We'll end up with a scattered LA style city Spreading all across northern Zealand with small commercial areas and a lot of boring sprawl - stupid!

We need something to put us on the map....

I'm not asking for much... I only want one 200m+ and some 5-10 120m+ towers... That's not that much to ask for... especially with the lack of apartments in Copenhagen at the time.... but nooo
no, its not to much to ask...Bt someone has to build them and first, fight the city to ger a permit to bild them...Perhaps you cold stat a company...

Anyways, i think refshaleøen might be a good choise for a TT Twin, surounded by a flock od 30-40 story bildings...Just to start of with...
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We need to do what arkoh suggested that we do a little while ago, start our own protesting group, where we do nothing but protest for more skyscrapers in Copenhagen!
maybe that is the answer...Or at least start figgering out why there is a hight limmit in ørestaden? if anyone can find the senceble answer to that, then ill buy 'em a beer....
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Old December 8th, 2005, 05:07 PM   #74
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maybe that is the answer...Or at least start figgering out why there is a hight limmit in ørestaden? if anyone can find the senceble answer to that, then ill buy 'em a beer....
Well when i sent that email to whatever that womans name was at orestad.dk, she told me that there was an 80m height limit because of the airport.. even though that doesnt make too much sense to us, that is the reason..

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I suppose they don't want any aircrashes, if they build tall near the airport...

About the news about the area at Artillerivej, I think it's good, that they finally are starting to do something around there, but 4-5 floors is not much, maybe aroung 10 floors would improve? With such a big demand, they should utilize the place better.

Did anyone read MetroXpress yesterday?
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Well when i sent that email to whatever that womans name was at orestad.dk, she told me that there was an 80m height limit because of the airport.. even though that doesnt make too much sense to us, that is the reason..

*patiently waiting for his free beer...*
i said a senceble answer...This doesnt make any sence...The planes dont fly over ørestaden, and everywhee else on the planet, they dont have those limmits...No soup for you....i mean beer...no beer for you...

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I suppose they don't want any aircrashes, if they build tall near the airport...
well, thats the same. If they can do it in London, why not here...?

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About the news about the area at Artillerivej, I think it's good, that they finally are starting to do something around there, but 4-5 floors is not much, maybe aroung 10 floors would improve?
well, 45 meters is aond 10-11 floors, so...

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Did anyone read MetroXpress yesterday?
Eh, no...Anything good? Feel free to post it here, or just give us the highlights...
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I suppose they don't want any aircrashes, if they build tall near the airport...
That's what they're saying. But the airplanes wont be flying over Ørestaden at all, and that's what we dont understand. We put a height limit over an area, and say its because of the airplanes, when they wont even be flying near the area..

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About the news about the area at Artillerivej, I think it's good, that they finally are starting to do something around there, but 4-5 floors is not much, maybe aroung 10 floors would improve? With such a big demand, they should utilize the place better.
Well, if 45m is the height limit, and each floor is around 3-4m, then a 45m building would probably be about 10-15 floors.. still, thats way too short IMO.

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lol cphdude.. we pretty much wrote the exact same thing at the exact same time...

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i said a senceble answer...This doesnt make any sence...The planes dont fly over ørestaden, and everywhee else on the planet, they dont have those limmits...No soup for you....i mean beer...no beer for you...
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yeah...i actually fo a second thought that i had posted a double post...petty good...

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45 meters....

I looked at infomedia (a media search engine) and I found a short note from Urban yesterday, about a new book that details the advantages of building high. The focus was educating politicians.
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