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Old December 19th, 2005, 12:04 PM   #101
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So even right next to other tall buildings, we cant get tall buildings....?
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Old December 19th, 2005, 02:59 PM   #102
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Another residential project in the Amerika Plads area soon to start construction.
It's called "Zinkhuset" and is located very close to the "Kobbertårnet", which can be seen in the left side of the rendering:
Horribly ugly building... and horribly ugly color
This is 1920's architecture...
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Old December 19th, 2005, 03:09 PM   #103
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I like it, actually. Maybe I've been brainwashed by all the new architecture in Öresundsregionen ("Europe's center stage for new architecture" )..
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Old December 19th, 2005, 06:14 PM   #104
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"Europe's center stage for new architecture"
You must be brainwashed yes Personally I think most of the new buildings in the cph area are quite boring, with some great exceptions of course. Too many "the same looking" buildings, that could just as well be in Oslo, Helsinki or Stockholm. IMO there's a lot more new exhiting architecture in for example The Netherlands these years.

Atleast the building in question is something different than what we usually see, though I wont call it a masterpiece.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 06:21 PM   #105
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It's maybe not the best achitecture ever, but I kind of like it too.

@CPHdude: Well, the plans for that area have been made a long time ago, so I don't think they change that in the middle of the process...

@DLL4ever: 1920's! Where have you seen anything like that from the 1920's?

@mlm: Actually this is a 100% dutch inspired building...
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Old December 19th, 2005, 06:40 PM   #106
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/\ Hehe no wonder. Who's the architect?

I know the masterplan for the area also was made be Dutch people.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 06:58 PM   #107
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@DLL4ever: 1920's! Where have you seen anything like that from the 1920's?
everywhere! ................................... (nowhere It just looks like really old-school architecture... something that would be found in a typical greenlandish village..
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Old December 19th, 2005, 07:13 PM   #108
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Who's the architect?
I'm not sure, but I have the feeling I've seen somewhere that it should be PLH Architects...
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I know the masterplan for the area also was made be Dutch people.
... who also made the plans for a harbour area in Amstedam where you'll find THIS building. Not coincidencial, if you ask me
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Old December 19th, 2005, 09:19 PM   #109
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No doubt there is a big resemblance there.

There are so many of these odd/crazy/PLOT'like/horrible/fantastic buildings in The Netherlands these years. Surely not all of them are lucky, but atleast they dare to do something different. Hope to see more of this here in DK in the comming years. There has already been quite a lot of Dutch "activity" in CPH the last years, which is surely a welcome addition if you ask me.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 10:12 PM   #110
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mlm,
The "center stage" thing is actually a quote from an article in NY Times earlier this year.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 10:21 PM   #111
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/\ Oh, then of course it is the truth.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 10:08 AM   #112
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There are so many of these odd/crazy/PLOT'like/horrible/fantastic buildings in The Netherlands these years. Surely not all of them are lucky, but atleast they dare to do something different. Hope to see more of this here in DK in the comming years. There has already been quite a lot of Dutch "activity" in CPH the last years, which is surely a welcome addition if you ask me.
I fully agree. And all the dutch and other foreign projects will surely start moving the limits of what danish architects will dare.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 10:51 AM   #113
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I fully agree. And all the dutch and other foreign projects will surely start moving the limits of what danish architects will dare.
IF they'll let them!

Sorry, tournesol. While I certainly share your hopeful thoughts I once again remember it with sadness and remind you guys of it in the process: the Frederikstad Lighthouse project by the Danish architect and esteemed S&B fellow forumer arcoh was KILLED!!! That beautiful building was badmouthed, scratched, and rendered naught by--please permit me to say it without getting mad at me--a provincial government thinking the old fashioned way.

It seems to me that lot of awakening has to take place in Denmark. Perhaps Danish architects don't dare much any more because they've been shot down too often. What's the lure of foreign architects? What do they have to offer that your own homegrown architects don't? Maybe they have simply been intimidated once too often by seeing their projects unrealized by some well meaning but misguided municipality and are losing their spirit and drive.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 11:25 AM   #114
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SFU protestere, SFU protestere - mod højhuse, klodsmajor, klodsmajor....

I agree that the political climate means that only forign aschitects can build abnormal things, mostly because the danish once, with few eception simply fell that we are to small and with to many restrictions...Afte all, danish architects have lost of succes in other countries, even building and poposing tall buildings...But here we just don see that....Damn thos f##king NIMBY's ....
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 09:38 PM   #115
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As discussed earlier in this thread there's a lot of development comming soon to Islands Brygge South.
The plan was first published in april this year, where danish office Plot and dutch office West 8 won a competition for the area. What's happening now is, that those plans has gone through the city planning department, and a lot of different architects has made propossals for the individual sites.

To the discussion from ealier about the height limit of 45m, I'll have to add that there is a reason for it. Not that I'm very pleased about it. It's the chimneys of the near by H.C.Ørsted Power Plant. They where also the reason that Metropolis in Sluseholmen is only going to be 11 floors and not 16. Too bad they don't consider making the chimneys heigher or find some other solution to, instead of just accepting it as a limitation...

Anyway back too the topic. The area is in my opinion going to look quite good (of couse all the towers could have been taller, but I'm not gonna repeat that for every project so now it's said!).

The general idea is that instead of the usual CPH way with a lot of 6 floor'ers all over the place they want to build lower and denser with taller landmark buildings scattered arround the area.
That idea of variation in HEIGHT is truely new to CPH, and I think it hold some possitive signals for the future.

So here are the overall project:



The area today:



A couple of ather angles:





PLOT has designed of of the project called the Wings.
Two twisted slaps, 12 floors heigh:





Vandkunsten has designed this elegant 14 floor'er:







C.F.Møller has designed these 3 buildings rising from 4 to 12 floors:







The round building also seen in the two pictures above is designed
by italian achitect André Straja. Looks like 11 or 12 floors:





The building to the right in the picture above is designed by english architect John Roberts, 12 floors heigh and in the shape of the silo that used to be in that spot:



Carsten Holdgaard Architects has made this 12 floor'er:



Dorte Mandrup Architect with a star or flower shaped 12 floor'er:







Boldsen & Holm has designed 3 round buildings in the southern most part of the area:




Here seen behind the Vandkunsten tower:




Finally a "skyline" image with the heights shown.
As you can see not all buildings are 45m, but 12 buildings are min. 36 meters:



So without talking about the height (or lack of) it seems like there could be a couple of quite interseting towers in this area.
Particulary the Vandkunsten tower seems promissing, in my opinion...
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Tournesol, as always you are a treasure trove of information!

And I totally agree with this observation you make:

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That idea of variation in HEIGHT is truely new to CPH, and I think it hold some possitive signals for the future.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 10:00 PM   #117
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Thanx for this presentation of all the projects. There are really some cool ones among them. I also really like the idea of big variation in height, instead of the usual 6 floors all over (with a single or two taller).

I will be exhiting to follow the development here, as better renderings are made public.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 10:03 PM   #118
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Fantastic projects. Copenhagen extremely hot right now (Malmö is too, actually).

I'm thinking TT. Beautiful.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 10:08 PM   #119
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Vandkunsten is something unseen! Its so hard to invent something new - but some manage to do!
District looks quite pleasant!
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 04:00 AM   #120
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Taking into account that this is CPH, 12 floors definitely isn't bad ... And there's more of them! :P I really like this project, it's quality architecture
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