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Old November 6th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #1
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Kenton, Gosforth & Fawdon Area (in Newcastle) and Wideopen Area (in North Tyneside) - Developments

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Here is the "Kenton, Gosforth and Fawdon, plus Wideopen" Area Developments Thread.

This is the only one of our 'Area Developments' threads that includes areas from within more than one Local Authority, as it crosses the City Boundary from the Kenton, Gosforth and Fawdon areas of Newcastle (the 'Newcastle 3' area of the City) to also cover the nearby Wideopen area of North Tyneside.

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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #2
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Ta. First off, Newcastle City Council has approved plans to improve the junctions at Blue House, Haddricksmill, and the Church Rd/High St/Salters Road crossroads,and to create better conditions for buses and cyclists along the High Street.

The Salters Road changes will involve 'de-staggering' that junction by running the E-W route diagonally across the current car park at the crossroads (a former school site). This could create the opportunity for new public space.
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Second off, Gosforth High Street retail is maybe showing small signs of recovery. Costa Coffee are to take space in the former wheelchair shop in the Gosforth Centre (and may hopefully be followed by others - apart from the butchers, the PO & WHS, the place is virtually dead at present). And the Co-op has taken over the old Woolworth shop: concversion work has recently started. Rumour has it that Adrianos restaurant is to open a delicatessen in the former newsagent near the County.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 08:30 PM   #4
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MAP OF NEWCASTLE (DIVIDED INTO ELECTORAL WARDS) . . .

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Old November 7th, 2009, 02:09 AM   #5
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Second off, Gosforth High Street retail is maybe showing small signs of recovery. Costa Coffee are to take space in the former wheelchair shop in the Gosforth Centre (and may hopefully be followed by others - apart from the butchers, the PO & WHS, the place is virtually dead at present). And the Co-op has taken over the old Woolworth shop: concversion work has recently started. Rumour has it that Adrianos restaurant is to open a delicatessen in the former newsagent near the County.
Costa is already open, came home for the weekend on Wednesday and was shocked when I popped into Sainbury's!
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Old November 7th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #6
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Yup, they fitted the Costa out pretty quickly, quite impressive. Although does Gosforth really need so many coffee shops?

Either way, Sainsbury really does show that having an anchor store can bring custom to an area. Admittedly having no big "everything under one roof" supermarkets at all would be the easiest way to bring life back to our high streets, but are supermarkets an entirely bad thing? I've never really been sure where I stand on that one.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 05:58 PM   #7
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The High Street does have Thorpes, which sells just about everything except food. Wonderful shop.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #8
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Certainly is. I interviewed the guy that runs/owns it a week or so ago. I love the toy train they have running around the place overhead!
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Old November 7th, 2009, 08:20 PM   #9
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Certainly is. I interviewed the guy that runs/owns it a week or so ago. I love the toy train they have running around the place overhead!
right, you were doing a survey up there not long ago. how did it go?
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The interviews etc went okay, we learnt a fair bit about the area. However it was group work and we produced a pretty under par piece unfortunately. I was actually embarrassed to present it. Still, it's onto the individual design piece now, so onwards and upwards...

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this might be of interest:

Sanderson Estate:

‘A contemporary interpretation of the English garden suburb’

+3 architecture have recently been commissioned by a private client to produce a residential masterplan for a 3.2 acre former NHS Hospital site in Newcastle upon Tyne. Located in the heart of a highly desirable residential area, the scheme involves the demolition of the existing hospital and the creation of a comparatively low density, high value residential development. The development contains a range of house typologies with a large ‘manor house’ dominating the site surrounded by flanks of semi-detached ‘lodges’ and contemporary terraced properties that respond to the particular site characteristics. Specific housing typologies have been developed to address the issues of privacy and over-looking which incorporate deep-plan layouts with internal wintergardens and terraces.

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this might be of interest:

Sanderson Estate:

‘A contemporary interpretation of the English garden suburb’

+3 architecture have recently been commissioned by a private client to produce a residential masterplan for a 3.2 acre former NHS Hospital site in Newcastle upon Tyne. Located in the heart of a highly desirable residential area, the scheme involves the demolition of the existing hospital and the creation of a comparatively low density, high value residential development. The development contains a range of house typologies with a large ‘manor house’ dominating the site surrounded by flanks of semi-detached ‘lodges’ and contemporary terraced properties that respond to the particular site characteristics. Specific housing typologies have been developed to address the issues of privacy and over-looking which incorporate deep-plan layouts with internal wintergardens and terraces.



Yes, VERY interesting, I have been wondering what the plans were for the Sanderson Hospital buidings/site, for a long time!

Demolition, a little bit of a shame, there might have been some parts that could be retained (not certain, it's been quite a while since I have been in those old hospital grounds) but at least it is going to be (quote) "comparitively Low Density".
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‘A contemporary interpretation of the English garden suburb’

The development contains a range of house typologies with a large ‘manor house’ dominating the site surrounded by flanks of semi-detached ‘lodges’ and contemporary terraced properties that respond to the particular site characteristics. Specific housing typologies have been developed to address the issues of privacy and over-looking which incorporate deep-plan layouts with internal wintergardens and terraces.
Bloody hell. A contemporary interpretation by people who seemingly know nothing about the development of the English garden suburb.

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The poor man at his gate
He made them high or lowly
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+3 (crazy name, crazy guys) seem to have taken this verse to heart.
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Thanks for this Johnny - it was a site I'd noticed and one I had in mind for the next stage of the design work.

I'm a little annoyed that they're going to demolish the existing buildings though, I really like them...

We're actually lectured by Mags, one of the partners at +3, and the students that have worked with him rate him really highly. I'd like to see a bit more detail about this development though as I've got a few reservations.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #15
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The Salters Road elevation, as far as the illustration seems to indicate, would appear to respect the scale and nature of the road (though like AoTN I'm sad that the hospital buildings are to be swept away). But the interior appears to be fat too low a density, and the concept of a 'manor house' and calling it such is rather ... (searches for polite word)... irritating. Not to mention the private double tennis courts and swimming pool - I trust there will be no vapourish claims made for the 'sustainability' of this project.
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Planning was granted for this site for a denser development a couple of years ago. There was no manor house concept though, which I'm not completely convinced about!
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In these days of fairly stereotyped suburban developments of "town houses with flats" (type of thing) this one appears delightfully QUIRKY, to me.

Nice to see, at this stage, and hopefully it will turn out this way.

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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #18
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Presumably they've realised that there isn't the market for a large number of densely built properties, however they might be able to shift a smaller number of them, plus one incredibly expensive new manorhouse type home. Think about it - it's a brand new house, with all the mod-cons, a swimming pool and tennis court(s) (I doubt these will be communal), probably built to the new owner's tastes, plus it's in the heart of Gosforth instead of the more distant Darras Hall.

Perfect for one of the footballers etc.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:55 PM   #19
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Presumably they've realised that there isn't the market for a large number of densely built properties, however they might be able to shift a smaller number of them, plus one incredibly expensive new manorhouse type home. Think about it - it's a brand new house, with all the mod-cons, a swimming pool and tennis court(s) (I doubt these will be communal), probably built to the new owner's tastes, plus it's in the heart of Gosforth instead of the more distant Darras Hall.

Perfect for one of the footballers etc.
Yes, I have been 'watching' over the last THREE long years, a large house in Lindisfarne Road in Jesmond, being converted to exactly that type of house. It was already an older and beautiful house (in an area full of big houses) but it has been completely gutted and sunken swimming pools and all sorts of things have been going in there - exactly your millionaire footballers type of pad! It is amazing how LONG it has taken.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention that (I wonder if anyone else has noticed it?) though I suppose it would be more appropriate to a Jesmond Developments thread, if there was one (so far we only have 'West End' and 'Gosforth', amongst the Newcastle suburbs threads).
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Presumably they've realised that there isn't the market for a large number of densely built properties, however they might be able to shift a smaller number of them, plus one incredibly expensive new manorhouse type home. Think about it - it's a brand new house, with all the mod-cons, a swimming pool and tennis court(s) (I doubt these will be communal), probably built to the new owner's tastes, plus it's in the heart of Gosforth instead of the more distant Darras Hall.

Perfect for one of the footballers etc.
But would they want the neighbouring oiks standing on their dustbins and peering over the fence as they lounge around the pool? That's why they go to Darras Hall - plenty of space, not overlooked, 'people like us' round about.
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