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View Poll Results: What country in Europe is the most ethnically diverse?
UK 50 43.48%
Germany 6 5.22%
Holland 22 19.13%
France 22 19.13%
Belgium 3 2.61%
Other 12 10.43%
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Old May 11th, 2005, 05:45 PM   #1
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Most ethnically diverse country in Europe?

So whatt is the most ethnic-divers country in europe?
look at the %, and at the ethnic-groups
please look at the numbers first
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:25 PM   #2
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i dont know but id say UK or netherlands (havent voted because i dont know the facts). France has no statistics on ethnics groups so its hard to say.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:28 PM   #3
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Definately the UK!
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:30 PM   #4
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Romania

more or less

11% of hungarians
4% of gypsies
2% of serbians
2% of bulgarians
1% of turks, ukrainans, arabs, greeks, chinese, germans...

surely one of the most ethnic diverse countries in Europe
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:33 PM   #5
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Romania

more or less

11% of hungarians
4% of gypsies
2% of serbians
2% of bulgarians
1% of turks, ukrainans, arabs, greeks, chinese, germans...

surely one of the most ethnic diverse countries in Europe

What's more, all of them have kept their language and ethnic features for hundreds of years.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:33 PM   #6
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maybe UK and Netherlands, no one have lists?
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:38 PM   #7
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Must be England or Netherlands as number one, and France on number two.
Spain is getting ethnically to. There are many foreigners going to Spain to live. 700.000 illegal people signed in for naturalisation!!!!!!
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Old May 11th, 2005, 08:49 PM   #8
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The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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Old May 11th, 2005, 08:49 PM   #9
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There are also millions of Turks and other groups in Germany. Germany was Europe's immigration leader until a few years ago. Luxembourg and Switzerland have a very high proportion of foreign born residents.

It really depends how you define diverse:

% foreign born population?
% not from dominant ethnic group/religion?
number of different ethnic communities?
number of different ethnic communities with at least 1% of population?
number of languages spoken?

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Old May 11th, 2005, 11:19 PM   #10
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By end of 2003 around 21 pct. (1,6 mio people) of the population in Switzerland were not swiss, i.e. they were either immigrants or children of immigrants. This afaik the highest no. in western europe apart from Luxemburg and other small states. Switzerland might have the most foreigner per capita in western europe, but most of them are still from EU or european countries (Italians, Germans, Ex-Yugoslavia).

Some figures from the Swiss Federal Statistical Office:

Foreigners living in Switzerland, listed by country/continent in thousand

EU/EFTA-countries 840.4
Germany 134.7
France 66.9
Italy 305.4
Austria 31.9
Portugal 150.4
Spain 77.6
Serbia and Montenegro 200.3
Turkey 78.1

Africa 44.3

(Americas 57.6)
Brasil 10.7
Canada 5.3
USA 14.9

(Asia 91.4 )
China 7.5
India 7.0
Sri Lanka 31.8

Australia Oceania 3.3
unknown 0.2
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Old May 11th, 2005, 11:28 PM   #11
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UK, those France isn't a slouch.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 11:46 PM   #12
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It's really hard to tell for France, we have aproximately between 5 and 10 million muslims, nobody knows for sure, about half or 2/3 of these muslims are north africans, who made the biggest minority in the 80's (with Portugeses a close second), now about blacks, some of them are muslims, others are not, for the blacks that I know, I'll say that between half and 2/3 third of them are muslims. Traditionaly, and in people's mind, the north africans are the biggest minority, but I sure see much more blacks, africans and west-indians, in the streets, the metro etc. Now about the other comunities such as the asians, the indians, etc, they are in much smaller number, so I wont risk saying anything about those.

Now this is very aproximative, and I don't know much about the other countries, I have went in Britain, Germany, Spain etc, but mainly not in the most diverse places, so I can't really tell, the only thing that is for sure is that France has the biggest jewish and muslim comunities in Europe. (but nothing close to what some xenophobic idiots pretend)
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Old May 12th, 2005, 12:22 AM   #13
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Without any research I thought the Netherlands win the cup. But then Ive looked up the data for the Netherlands:

about 5% foreigners
about 5% dutch citizen with a migration background
---> 10% of all inhabitants Netherlands have migration background

---> So Netherland is out of the race!

Now I think Germany or U.K., but Im not sure.

Data for Germany:

total amount of inhabitants: about 82 millions

1. about 8 millions foreigners

2. about 9 millions germans with a migration backround

3. about 1-2 millions illegals (there is no firm data, only estimates by migration experts)

And many people with half german half ... parents (there are intersections with the inhabitants from number 2.(see above) and no real data about it, so I don`t include it in my calculation)

---> about 18,5 millions inhabitants with a migration background

---> about 22,5 %
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Old May 12th, 2005, 12:37 AM   #14
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Probably France :
- 6 millions of Alsacian (Germanic ethny)
- 4,2 millions of Brittanian (Celtic ethny)
- 730,000 of Basques
- 100,000 Flemish
- 272,000 of Corsican (South Europe/ Italian ethny)
- 8 millions of Provence people (Italian ethny)

Foreign ethny :
- 6 millions of Portuguese people (first foreign community)
- 200,000 Spaniard
- 200,000 English people
- 10 millions of people from muslims countries (over 25 countries)
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:24 AM   #15
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Quote:
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Probably France :
- 6 millions of Alsacian (Germanic ethny)
- 4,2 millions of Brittanian (Celtic ethny)
- 730,000 of Basques
- 100,000 Flemish
- 272,000 of Corsican (South Europe/ Italian ethny)
- 8 millions of Provence people (Italian ethny)

Foreign ethny :
- 6 millions of Portuguese people (first foreign community)
- 200,000 Spaniard
- 200,000 English people
- 10 millions of people from muslims countries (over 25 countries)
6 million of Alsacian??? must be kidding!!!
Same for Portuguese (estimated at 800 000) and muslims (from 4 to 6 million), your figures are over-estimated....and just non-sense.

Reguarding Corsican, it's the opposite, you forget a lot of corsican will live in the continent.

I add that France has one of the most important asian communauty (chinese and vietnamese mostly) with an estimation of 400 000 people in Paris Ile de France (where the communauty is mostly concentrated)
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:50 AM   #16
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Much more then 800 000 for the Portugeses actually, it's just that the large majority has french nationality
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:51 AM   #17
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Dunno, but I think it is UK! Followed by Germany, France and Holland (in no specific order).
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:52 AM   #18
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Quote:
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Probably France :
- 6 millions of Alsacian (Germanic ethny)
- 4,2 millions of Brittanian (Celtic ethny)
- 8 millions of Provence people (Italian ethny)
You can`t really count that! Just as I can`t count this: 20% of all Germans have eastern european roots, because Germany had different boarders in the past. But that goes simply to far back in the past.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:58 AM   #19
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I would say in terms of number and recognizable size of diverse ethnic communities: UK followed by the Netherlands and France, because of their colonial empires they had (and the UK most recently).
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:58 AM   #20
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I forgot to mention some ethnical minorities (with german citizenship) in Germany:

50.000 Danes
50.000 Frisians
60.000 sorbs
120.000 Sinti and Roma
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