LOS ANGELES - Farmers Field (72,000)

[slipperydog]

Originally Posted by will101

They already have one. A new stadium might be more convenient for some fans, but less so for others.

Wait, wuuhhhh? Not to be a smartass, but is that not obvious?

That has nothing to do with the fact that putting a stadium near mass transit would make it far more accessible to many more fans then they currently reach.

[5portsF4n]

Originally Posted by slipperydog

Because it's better to have your own soccer specific stadium, like Colorado, San Jose, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Philadelphia, and New York do. HDC location is terrible.

Believe me, I'm not disagreeing that SSS's are essential. I just think this scenario in particular is unique because the Galaxy have potential to do well in a football stadium ala Seattle, done correctly. I don't think theres too many other markets out there that offer that kind of potential.

Unless the SSS has private money coming into it, I'm not exactly a huge fan of taxpayer money being used to subsidize two stadiums in such a short span. So who do you appease then? Make an SSS that suits only the Galaxy, or build a football stadium that accommodates both? I personally prefer the latter option. The cost of both stadiums would be substantial. The football stadium would be over a billion, and the soccer stadium could very well be over 200 million assuming LAG go for SSS Generation 3.0.

Originally Posted by Kenny

If you don't know soccer, then you don't understand why it is paramount for teams to have soccer specific stadiums. So many reasons.

Multipurpose facilities, Football + (_____) may work with some sports, but not with baseball or soccer. Plus that tendency is a dying 60's trend.

I think any soccer fans in America understand the importance of an SSS. But Los Angeles is a unique case in that both the soccer and (potential) NFL team need/want a new home.

The issue of soccer teams playing in football stadiums is a problem if you're in Indianapolis, to use an example. But even conservative estimates could see LA Galaxy draw anywhere between 30-40,000 depending on the opponent. High profile matches (Seattle/NYC/San Jose/etc) and play offs could get upwards of 50-60,000.

By the way most stadiums built today are multipurpose, so I'm not entirely sure how you think its a 60s trend. Even the current SSS's can host rugby, lacrosse or whatever. Many football stadiums are built being able to host soccer events. That's the definition of multipurpose. Baseball is a different beast, and I agree you wouldn't lump the two together, but soccer and football can go hand in hand at a multipurpose venue without any drama.

[slipperydog]

Originally Posted by 5portsF4n

Believe me, I'm not disagreeing that SSS's are essential. I just think this scenario in particular is unique because the Galaxy have potential to do well in a football stadium ala Seattle, done correctly. I don't think theres too many other markets out there that offer that kind of potential.

Unless the SSS has private money coming into it, I'm not exactly a huge fan of taxpayer money being used to subsidize two stadiums in such a short span. So who do you appease then? Make an SSS that suits only the Galaxy, or build a football stadium that accommodates both? I personally prefer the latter option. The cost of both stadiums would be substantial. The football stadium would be over a billion, and the soccer stadium could very well be over 200 million assuming LAG go for SSS Generation 3.0.

Who said anything about taxpayer money?

The only thing that saves Seattle is their atmosphere. Otherwise, playing in a half full NFL stadium is awful.

Getting an NFL stadium is a huge undertaking fraught with political, social, and economic implications. The Galaxy shouldn't wait around and let that nonsense dictate their own business.

[5portsF4n]

It has also allowed Seattle to tailor their capacity accordingly. I dont see too many complaints about Seattle. I do see it with the Revs but would LAG be a Seattle or Boston? My bets on the former.

[ielag]

The Galaxy would easily sell out the now StubHub Center regularly if their tickets were more in line with other MLS clubs. Cheapest tickets (northern general admission and ends of the upper deck) are almost always sold out. And even those are the most expensive general admission ticket prices in the league.

I expect the Galaxy to have the highest ticket prices because of payroll but some of the ticket prices are extremely high and blocks are generally not sold (unless it's a high demand game). It's about $80 for a ticket at about 35 yards out. It's $58 for about the same section for the New York Red Bulls, who have just as high a payroll as the Galaxy.

Also, StubHub's naming rights deal for the former HDC is $60 million over 6 years.

There's also nothing around to do before or after the game right around the SHC. There's some pre-game tailgating but the supporter's culture is more geared to bars than tailgating.

[JJG]

The more I see about this NOT happening, the more I wish THIS was...



*sigh*

[pesto]

JJG: the Coliseum always will be THE stadium. And unlike Yankee Stadium or Madison Sq. Garden, it's the real thing.

For soccer, the economics of two teams sharing a stadium in an uncongested, moderately priced part of town seems pretty strong. I would like to see LA spend its time and money on making the city more attractive to businesses and families rather than going after big projects that really don't provide much in the way of jobs or make the city a better place to live. Pushing these seems more like a way to get headlines rather than doing the unglamorous work that needs to be done.

If private parties want to spend money on something next to the Coliseum or north of DT, that's their choice. But it really just shifts where people go to work; it doesn't bring new jobs to the LA metro.

[shhyvoodoo]

Originally Posted by pesto

JJG: the Coliseum always will be THE stadium. And unlike Yankee Stadium or Madison Sq. Garden, it's the real thing.

Uhhh what?!?! Your kidding right?? Tell me your joking...

How many championship fights have the Coliseum hosted??
How many championships were won on the Coliseum floor as supposed to Yankee Stadium??
MSG STILL host over 250 events a year.. The Coliseum sits EMPTY over 300 days a year.

The Coliseum is a LANDMARK.. Thats all!!!

[JJG]

Originally Posted by shhyvoodoo

Uhhh what?!?! Your kidding right?? Tell me your joking...

How many championship fights have the Coliseum hosted??
How many championships were won on the Coliseum floor as supposed to Yankee Stadium??
MSG STILL host over 250 events a year.. The Coliseum sits EMPTY over 300 days a year.

The Coliseum is a LANDMARK.. Thats all!!!

Um... I think he was basically saying the same thing you are.

[pesto]

Originally Posted by shhyvoodoo

Uhhh what?!?! Your kidding right?? Tell me your joking...

How many championship fights have the Coliseum hosted??
How many championships were won on the Coliseum floor as supposed to Yankee Stadium??
MSG STILL host over 250 events a year.. The Coliseum sits EMPTY over 300 days a year.

The Coliseum is a LANDMARK.. Thats all!!!

Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, for that matter Bernie Williams, never played in the stadium where the Yankees are playing. You figure out the number of championships.

Madison Sq. Garden is not even on Madison Sq. Are you confusing it with one of the arenas of the same name torn down many years ago at a different location?