Application number - PL/INV/0660/15
Site address - Plot A03 William Jessop Way Princes Dock Liverpool Merseyside L3 1QP
Proposal - Full planning application for the development of an 8,879 gross square metre (including rooftop plantroom), 8 storey building with B1 use class for 7 storeys (7874 gross square metres) and B1 or A1,A2,A3,A4 use class on the ground floor (1005 gross square metres) at land adjacent to William Jessop Way, Princes Dock.
Applicant - Mr Ian Pollitt
The thing I like about it is that it doesn't look like a provincial red-brick filler, and could quite easily grace any city in Europe. Is Princes Dock in danger of becoming a new HafenCity?
Yeah, I was thinking something similar. I don't actually think it is a terribly good building, it's ok and much better than most recent office builds around Liverpool, but it is of the quality one you expect to have as standard in a prosperous, first world city. You can see its like in large numbers in yes Hamburg and places in Scandinavia.
I hope Peel actually build the thing some time soon
You been in the Jawbone recently Scarecrow? I was put off train at Oriel Road some time ago due to a technical problem and decided to have a pint in the Wyndham. It wasn't very good in there to be honest.
Not for a few years now. I tend to quicken my pace once I've got off the canal at Litherland Rd Bridge and make a beeline straight for the Merton. It's a Wetherspoons now, so very dreary and familiar. :yes:
One of my staff at the current place was the landlady at the Wyndham a few years ago. Scary lady.
Funny the things you remember, but the last time I was in the Merton there was a young man sitting near to me wearing a "Sit Down" t-shirt (merch of the band, James). So that must have been a rather long time ago.
We lost a significant amount of space this year, but that's largely due to government subsidies that were available to convert vacant commercial space to other uses. Not sure if it's still available. If so, maybe we'll keep seeing these conversions.
Once the madness that is the pensions annuity free for all gets announced in the budget, you'll be seeing more silver surfers blowing their pension on property speculation, driving some of them into the gutter whilst making it harder for first time buyers to get on the ladder.
I personally agree with the Chancellors position on pensions. Better that than the nanny knows best position of Labour. You save up all your professional life for a pension. Then you die of a heart attack at 66. What happens to the money? It's pocketed by the pension companies. That is frankly outrageous. That money belongs to the people who saved it and to their survivors. By right.
The key to this is how the money is invested, what's available for people with a decent pot to draw an income and still have access to capital if required and funds transferred to the estate upon death.
Octoman, who resides mainly in the Skybar, is a pensions investment type chap I think, he's very socially minded too so it'll be good to follow his thoughts.
The whole system is basically like a bet, like insurance. Sometimes the house wins and you cork it young, sometimes you live until your 100 and the house loses. If everyone can cash out their chips when they are young, then there's no money in the pot for those keeping their money there for an annuity.
The long departed William Jessop did not have to worry about his state pension, :lol: only how many floors his mausoleum would have. So if you wish to talk Bootle pubs or pensions............Foxtrot Oscar to the Skybar..kay:
My understanding is that individual plots are not predetermined as to what exactly will go on them, but that overall permission for the scheme as a whole is agreed in regards to the general contents. The images we have seen to date are only images of "what could be" not what will be, so no conclusions can be drawn (other than positive that it's actually getting a move on).
Well, I think its hideous - especially compared to some of the really good, attractive new Q-parks that we have. It's also permanently covered in unsightly banner advertising.
Green light for first Liverpool Waters office development
Posted by Stephen Hurrell in Development.
The first office development in the proposed £5.5 billion Liverpool Waters scheme has been approved by Liverpool City Council’s planning committee.
The eight-storey building, which will offer 100,000 sq ft of Grade A space, has been approved for a plot in William Jessop Way, near to Peel Group’s Princes Dock development. The approval paves the way for work to begin on the development and kickstart the Liverpool Waters scheme.
The office block is designed to mimic shipping containers in a nod to the city’s maritime history. It will be the first new development in the 65-acre Liverpool Waters scheme, which includes offices, leisure, retail and residential developments across the city’s Northern Docks.
An application for a residential tower on Princes Dock, in conjunction with Moda Living, is expected to be submitted this year as more aspects of Liverpool Waters gets underway.
The planning consultant for the new office development will be Arup, architect is KKA Architecture and engineering consultancy for the building is Bingham. Curtins and Zerum will be structural and M&E engineers respectively.
This won't get built unless they get a pre-let so don't break out the hard hat just yet. I wonder if it could get up scaled to accomodate the government department requirement doing the rounds ? Otherwise with the state of the Liverpool office market we could be in for a long wait ......Remember Pall Mall ?
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