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Seeing as the last thread seems to have gone here is another...

The following shows the madness of spending money on roads to relief congestion instead of trams...

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/166/166225_bumper_business_chokes_the_roads.html

Bumper business chokes the roads
Yakub Qureshi


JAMS: early morning traffic on the A57TAMESIDE has the biggest traffic growth in the country, figures reveal today.

A congestion blacklist published by the Department of Transport showed there were 36 per cent more cars and lorries on Tameside roads than in 1997 - the biggest increase in England.

Two other Greater Manchester areas, Oldham, in second place with 32.4 per cent, and Bury, 18 per cent, also recorded some of the sharpest rises in congestion. Tameside, Oldham and Bury were all above the national increase of 11 per cent.

Transport groups said the findings confirmed their worst fears about congestion in the region and blamed the delay of the Metrolink extension for increasing traffic jams.

Traffic bosses said they believed the bulk of the increase was due to the addition of the M60 Denton to Middleton extension, which had brought more traffic to area.

Coun Alan Whitehead, Tameside's executive member for technical services, said: "When there are good connections more people will want to use them. Regeneration has seen a lot firms moving into Tameside.

"People want to come to the great workshops of Manchester, and developments in places like Glossop, High Peak and Saddleworth means there will be additional traffic coming through Tameside."

Congestion

He believed the planned Metrolink extension, which was promised in the government's election manifesto, would help ease congestion.

Andrew Shaw, co-ordinator of Friends of the Earth Oldham, said: "There has definitely been an increase of traffic. The M60 has brought an associated increase in traffic throughout the borough and people are travelling more between their homes and work.

"The government is throwing a lot of money at the road network at the same time that it has reneged on its promise for the new Metrolink to Oldham and Tameside."

The Liberal Democrats, who requested the information, which dates from when Labour came into government, said motorists should be charged for driving into urban areas.

Tom Brake MP, the party's transport spokesman, claimed London-style congestion fees would cut traffic and fund better public transport.

He said: "John Prescott infamously remarked that if the government did not reduce road traffic it would have failed. These figures are the clearest indicator that it has failed."
 
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#19,483 ·
It has been reported on here today:
It's out on bury pics today
^^ Cheers greybeard I didn't saw that post but banana, so does this mean 3060 tram is in service now as it sound to me that it was doing Bury to Piccadilly service yesterday?

Also 3060 tram only arrival at Queens Road depot on 17th November mean is only be in Manchester for month by the time it entry into service which sound bit weird as 3042 to 3059 trams have been here for much long then 3060 tram let them tram are not in service let :nuts:

http://www.britishtramsonline.co.uk/news/?p=2333
 
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#19,491 ·
Yeah, probably best if they don't use it.
What?

I know that on one occasion the driver applied it because some muppet walked out in front of the tram. I saw them, and if he hadn't I suspect that they'd be muppet mush now.

The other two occasions probably were down to ATS, but both of them were in odd places for it. Add to that my surprise at it happening to me 3 times in a week and NEVER in the past.
 
#19,492 ·
^^ Cheers greybeard I didn't saw that post but banana, so does this mean 3060 tram is in service now as it sound to me that it was doing Bury to Piccadilly service yesterday?

Also 3060 tram only arrival at Queens Road depot on 17th November mean is only be in Manchester for month by the time it entry into service which sound bit weird as 3042 to 3059 trams have been here for much long then 3060 tram let them tram are not in service let :nuts:

http://www.britishtramsonline.co.uk/news/?p=2333
It's out on bury alt today on directs
It got factory fitted ats sure that shoots it up the list some
 
#19,493 ·
Looks like all Piccadilly/Alty services are terminating at Timperley, only Bury directs going as far as Alty.
Strange, why Deansgate Crossings was causing such a problem. They had failed and the lane was closed. The announcement at Navigation Road at about 14:30, was along the lines of, "Due to problems at Deansgate Crossings no trams are running into Piccadilly" !!!!
All trams were running directly to Bury, I suspected a problem with the points near Piccadilly Gardens. Trams were fine to Altrincham although they had to run a red light approaching Deansgate Crossings.
 
#19,494 ·
Strange, why Deansgate Crossings was causing such a problem. They had failed and the lane was closed. The announcement at Navigation Road at about 14:30, was along the lines of, "Due to problems at Deansgate Crossings no trams are running into Piccadilly" !!!!
All trams were running directly to Bury, I suspected a problem with the points near Piccadilly Gardens. Trams were fine to Altrincham although they had to run a red light approaching Deansgate Crossings.
When the barriers fail at Deansgate Lane or Navigation Road they generally only run half the trams through to Altrincham. It is an arrangement between Metrolink and Network Rail to reduce the workload on the Signallers and Controllers as the working through requires a lot of radio traffic. It sounds as though during today's failure only the directs were running to Altrincham. The announcement may have been a little misleading but was accurate in spirit.
 
#19,495 ·
What?

I know that on one occasion the driver applied it because some muppet walked out in front of the tram. I saw them, and if he hadn't I suspect that they'd be muppet mush now.

The other two occasions probably were down to ATS, but both of them were in odd places for it. Add to that my surprise at it happening to me 3 times in a week and NEVER in the past.
They say things happen in 3's!! Lots of 'muppets' in the city centre at present so don't be surprised if a few more happen!
 
#19,498 ·
Strange, why Deansgate Crossings was causing such a problem. They had failed and the lane was closed. The announcement at Navigation Road at about 14:30, was along the lines of, "Due to problems at Deansgate Crossings no trams are running into Piccadilly" !!!!
All trams were running directly to Bury, I suspected a problem with the points near Piccadilly Gardens. Trams were fine to Altrincham although they had to run a red light approaching Deansgate Crossings.
As Freel said, all trams from Navy Rd were going to Bury yesterday. As the post you responded states, the Picc services to Alty were terminating at Timplerley.

As such, Picc was well and truly open.
 
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