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Old August 29th, 2015, 04:24 PM   #341
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When places like Warwick, Bristol, and Edinburgh, which while I'm sure have had their problems, haven't experienced the kind of economic turmoil that Liverpool has over the years, are appearing towards the upper end of one list or the other, I don't know how much the relative affluence of each place is a factor.
Bristol and Edinburgh appear cheap in only the first table, indicating only that Bristol and Edinburgh universities levy low rents in their halls of residences. Private sector housing costs in those two comparatively prosperous cities (compared to Liverpool at least) are high and so they both aren't high in the table of cheap cities for second years.

Warwick university does because Warwick university is in *Coventry*.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #342
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The order of the first table (first year students) is down mostly to the cost that Liverpool university charges for its halls of residence. If you look at the date in Chris B's link, at £130/week, Liverpool university charges the *second highest* amount for its halls. Only Oxford university is more expensive. I guess the new, swanky accommodation that the uni has built recently like Vine Court is charged accordingly. Although the city is cheap otherwise this single high weekly cost is enough to balance that out and result in the city being only the eight cheapest for first years.

The second table shows living expenses for second year students, students who have usually left university accommodation and moved into private sector housing. Their rents they pay are much more closely coupled with the general health and success of their college towns. That renting privately in Liverpool is so cheap (cheap enough that Liverpool university is indicated on the table as the most affordable in the country for second years) indicates two things I think:

*because of the weakness of the job market in Liverpool demand for housing is relatively weak - fewer people are arriving in Liverpool for work compared with other cities and graduates are less able to stick around after a year or two; and

*both main Liverpool universities are comparatively small compared with those in similar sized cities - there is less demand for student accommodation generally in the city.

The best thing that could possible be said about Liverpool being so cheap is that it may attract students put off by the higher expenses in richer, more expensive cities. But it doesn't really work like that. Liverpool's universities are not particularly oversubscribed despite their comparatively small size and people don't seem to be being put off from applying to Oxford. I cannot think of a worse place to be a student than London for various reasons and not just cost but the famous, world class institutions in that super-expensive city don't have any problems filling their courses, put it that way.

I thought with recent progress that Liverpool wouldn't still find itself at the bottom of tables like these so I'm surprised and a bit disappointed. Hopefully in a few more years it won't be.
so why does Liverpool a "hardscrabble" town university charge the second highest..
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Old August 29th, 2015, 04:41 PM   #343
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You would have to ask the university that question, it doesn't reflect market rents in the wider city. As I say, we know Liverpool has recently built a large number of high-spec accommodation units. These must have high rental costs. I would be surprised if the tattier, older accommodation still in use at Carnatic is charged at same rates. Presumably the uni accommodation in Edinburgh and Bristol, generally more expensive cities than Liverpool, is on average older and lower spec (no en suite, etc.). If those unis do build some new units, I expect that they will be at least as expensive as Liverpool's. Another factor is that because both those unis have a better reputation that Liverpool they haven't felt it so necessary to build new quality accommodation in order to compete. To pick an extreme example, Oxford university may have the lowest proportion of new or newish student accommodation of the pre-1992 universities and billets its students in various Gormenghastian cavities. The don't lack for students applying to them however.

One last point about the high rents charged by Liverpool university for its newly built accommodation, the uni seems to have been targeting overseas, mostly Chinese, students more than many unis and they need this sort of accommodation to compete for them. I don't think that the uni has been so focussed on China is itself a good sign either (although the city benefits from their students' presence). The university for various reasons (its not so great place in the academic rankings, the unfair bad reputation that the city can still have due in part to an biased UK media?) is not as successful in attracting UK applicants has it should be.

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Old September 9th, 2015, 04:29 PM   #344
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Manchester is building a 350 yes 350 million pound engineering campus .....it will make it a world leader .....once upon a time this city was renown for thinking big ......I am concerned at the continuing slide of Liverpool University down various rankings .....let's face it ...it's now only classed as a Russell University because of its history.....the whole city and it's institutions needs to up its game ..we need more projects like Liverpool 2 and the continued expansion of the school of tropical medicine ....the Lib Dems gave us Liverpool One and the ACC I went to one of the briefings and they had a quote on all the documents ....can't remember the exact words but it was about thinking big ....making big plans.
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Old September 9th, 2015, 04:35 PM   #345
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Is that just the old UMIST spend broken out over time??
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Old September 17th, 2015, 12:21 PM   #346
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Airport service welcomes 850 overseas students

The University of Liverpool will welcome almost 850 students through its Meet and Greet Service at Manchester International Airport, as students from over 30 countries arrive in the UK to start their studies.

As part of the annual welcome activities provided by the Student Recruitment and Student Support teams, the University provides a free airport transfer service for all new international, EU and Study Abroad students.

This year’s numbers are a significant increase on the 600 students welcomed by University staff at Manchester Airport last year.
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The Meet and Greet service will run from 18th – 20th September from 8am to 8pm each day. A team of staff and international student ambassadors will be on hand at the airport to greet students at all three terminals and transport them to their University accommodation.

Students are offered free refreshments and a UK sim card before they depart, as well as the opportunity to sit in groups and meet other students that might be studying on related courses or living in the same accommodation.

Once students have arrived on campus they will be able to collect their Biometric Residence Permit (BRP). There will then be a full week of events and exhibitions to take part in, involving departments from across the University, the Guild of Students, and local organisations that introduce students to the city and campus life.

Further Welcome Week information for international students can be found here: http://www.liv.ac.uk/welcome/internationalstudents/

From University of Liverpool News:
http://news.liv.ac.uk/2015/09/17/air...seas-students/
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It just sounds wrong.

We need to hurry up and sort the Liverpool hub services.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 10:52 AM   #348
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Old September 24th, 2015, 11:52 AM   #349
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I'm mixed about this. I'm pleased that the building will get used, but this will just mean relocations from elsewhere. I see the tiny Sensor "City" building is in there too, which I can't remember seeing before.

What irks me is that, despite this "big" investment, there's acres of vacant land right-there and this is all we get. That should be prime development land and the Science Park should have expanded into it years ago.
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wonderful news, great for the area and the city, also great for opting to reuse an abandoned building
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Old October 1st, 2015, 12:34 PM   #351
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Manc uni 56th best in the world, apparently. Liverpool not in top 100.

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We shouldn't forget that the current university was formed from two good ones. It's huge size does help it, especially in the research rankings.
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Stop The Rot: Former Irish Centre the focus of new £8m development plan

One of Liverpool’s most historically-important buildings is the focus of an ambitious £8m development plan which aims to keep our talented graduates in the city.

The Wellington Rooms, which was home to Liverpool’s former Irish Centre and is part of the ECHO’s Stop The Rot campaign, has been closed since 1997.

The 200-year-old building on Mount Pleasant has since been the subject of a series of failed enterprises, including a proposed hotel.

But now the University of Liverpool and Liverpool John Moores University have teamed up with Merseyside Building Preservation Trust and Liverpool City Council – which has the freehold – in a bid to develop a business and innovation hub.

All options remain open as to what else could form part of the plans, with a cafe and/or bar and restaurant among the possibilities, while all parties would be happy to hear any ideas from the Irish community.

Those behind the new project are Professor Stephen Holloway, Pro-Vice-Chancellor for Partnerships, Civic Engagement and Enterprise at the University of Liverpool; Professor Robin Leatherbarrow, Pro-Vice-Chancellor for Scholarship, Research and Knowledge Transfer at Liverpool John Moores University and Chris Musson, chief executive of Liverpool Science Park – which sits next to the Wellington Rooms and is owned by the two universities.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...entre-10320068

great news for very increasingly dilapidated buildings.
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