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Old February 24th, 2015, 01:46 PM   #13161
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US Embassy | Nine Elms SW8

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=728176

Official website: http://london.usembassy.gov/new_embassy.html



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  • Address: 33 Nine Elms Lane, London SW8
  • Developer: Federal Government of the United States
  • Architect: Kieran Timberlake
  • Cost: $1 billion
  • Floors: 11



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Old February 24th, 2015, 01:50 PM   #13162
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South Bank Tower | South Bank SE1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=429988

Official website: http://www.southbanktower.com/



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  • Address: South Bank Tower, Stamford Street, London SE1
  • Developer: CIT
  • Architect: Kohn Pedersen Fox
  • Height: 151m
  • Floors: 41



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Old February 24th, 2015, 02:50 PM   #13163
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Canada Water Masterplan | Canada Water SE16

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1791156

Official website: http://canadawatermasterplan.com/



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  • Developer: British Land
  • Homes: 2,500
  • Student accommodation: 1,000
  • Office space: 82,000m²
  • Commercial space: 82,500m²

Developer British Land has purchased a parcel of land at Canada Water for £130 million ($200m). Together with neighbouring sites, the purchase enables British Land to fully commence with the multi-billion Canada Water masterplan:

- Estates Gazette: BL colonises Canada Water

- SNL: British Land to buy £130M Surrey Quays site

- Property Week: British Land in £130m Surrey Quays buy


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Old February 24th, 2015, 03:07 PM   #13164
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Architects would have been told to bear the project cost in mind when formulating their proposal.

The span of the Nine Elms bridge is half that of the Garden Bridge, none of these designs would approach the latter in price.


Firstly, the span of the Thames at both points is only marginally different. No idea how you can claim it's "half". Vauxhall Bridge is 250m versus Balckfriar's Bridge which is 280m. The Garden Bridge also doesn't need cycle ramps which saves a lot of money and construction work on both sides of the river.

There's no way the Zaha-Hadid-lookalike or the waterfall design could cost much less than £175m. But you're still persistently ignoring the fact that the Garden Bridge is only costing us £60m in taxpayer money, so the £175m headline figure is essentially irrelevant for our purposes.

Finally, the architects clearly haven't "borne the cost in mind" with some of these designs. Architects often use competitions like these to show off their creativity and gain the attention of the press and prospective clients. Most of these designs are pie-in-the-sky concepts that would be prohibitively expensive to realise.
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Old February 24th, 2015, 03:25 PM   #13165
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Firstly, the span of the Thames at both points is only marginally different. No idea how you can claim it's "half". Vauxhall Bridge is 250m versus Balckfriar's Bridge which is 280m. The Garden Bridge also doesn't need cycle ramps which saves a lot of money and construction work on both sides of the river.

There's no way the Zaha-Hadid-lookalike or the waterfall design could cost much less than £175m. But you're still persistently ignoring the fact that the Garden Bridge is only costing us £60m in taxpayer money, so the £175m headline figure is essentially irrelevant for our purposes.

Finally, the architects clearly haven't "borne the cost in mind" with some of these designs. Architects often use competitions like these to show off their creativity and gain the attention of the press and prospective clients. Most of these designs are pie-in-the-sky concepts that would be prohibitively expensive to realise.


The width of the Thames between Temple and the South Bank is very much wider than that of the Nine Elms crossing. Furthermore, the Garden Bridge has to clear Victoria Embankment, whereas the landing point of the Nine Elms bridge doesn't have to clear roads. Therefore, the span of the Garden Bridge is around twice that of a Nine Elms crossing.

The Garden Bridge costs £175m, of which £60m up front is taxpayer money, not forgetting the £3.5m per year underwritten by TfL for maintenance. Conversely the Nine Elms bridge is £40m, located where a crossing is entirely necessary, with provision for cyclists and pedestrians, with a better cost benefit ratio. Attempting to draw parallels between the two schemes comes off worse every time for the Garden Bridge.
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You're just repeating glaring counterfactuals. The span of the Garden Bridge will be nowhere near double, it will be about 25% longer including the Victoria Embankment.

Both bridges at present would cost ~£60m + maintenance to the taxpayer.
The feasibility study right here says £59.4m in 2013 prices.

The Garden Bridge has a MUCH BETTER cost-benefit ratio for that £60m. It has a CBA of 5.5 versus the 1.9 of the Nine Elms bridge.

Finally, 9/10 of those bridge concepts for Nine Elms could not be realised within that £60m budget. It's so obvious that it is mad to continue denying it.
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Old February 24th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #13167
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  • The Nine Elms bridge is an actual transport connection, a necessity for its location
  • The bridge will have provisions for pedestrians and cyclists
  • The bridge will cost a fraction to build and maintain
Oh well I agree with all of that. But people never bring that up. Criticism against the Garden Bridge is almost overwhelmingly aesthetic, as though that were enough. And it's weird, it seems the people who don't like it, really, really don't like it. To an absurd degree. My main criticism is lack of bike provisions, and Lumley's dumb-ass excuse for the oversight.

Of course, the other issue is that it's not an either/or situation. Both can be built, and both will be built. Again, while the costs are different, both are inconsequentially small. If people are really opposed to government spending in a time of austerity (which is debateable) then there's a long, long, long list of things to axe before we even get close to the bridges.
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Old February 24th, 2015, 08:17 PM   #13168
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Something tells me they will all like it once or if it is finished.
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Old February 24th, 2015, 09:21 PM   #13169
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That's what Boris's supporters said about the commuter Cable Car that no commuter uses.
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Old February 24th, 2015, 09:24 PM   #13170
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St John's Hill | Battersea SW11

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1753312

Official website: http://www.peabody.org.uk/homes-in-d.../st-johns-hill



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  • Developer: Peabody
  • Architect: Hawkins\Brown
  • Cost: £120 million ($185m)
  • Homes: 550



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Old February 24th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #13171
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Old February 25th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #13172
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Nine Elms Point | Nine Elms SW8

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=105526071

Official website: http://www.barratthomes.co.uk/new-ho...ne-Elms-Point/



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  • Address: 62 Wandsworth Road, London SW8
  • Developer: Sainsbury's and Barratt London
  • Architect: Rolfe Judd
  • Cost: £450 million ($730m)
  • Homes: 737



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Old February 25th, 2015, 05:08 AM   #13173
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That's what Boris's supporters said about the commuter Cable Car that no commuter uses.
Unless they charge a toll for the bridge, it will be used heavily by pedestrians and tourists as a more convenient way to cross the Thames and see (and photograph) the city. That cable car has a high fare of £4.40 (£3.30 for frequent users) which deters people from using it. Also as a park, it will drive a lot of development nearby.
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Unless they charge a toll for the bridge, it will be used heavily by pedestrians and tourists as a more convenient way to cross the Thames and see (and photograph) the city. That cable car has a high fare of £4.40 (£3.30 for frequent users) which deters people from using it. Also as a park, it will drive a lot of development nearby.
The South Bank and Temple doesn't need a garden bridge to drive development. They're prime locales in the hottest real estate market on earth.

The garden bridge is proposed as a place of quiet contemplation, not a place teeming with hoards of tourists. The bend in the river, wider pavements and nearby termini and 24hr access make Waterloo Bridge the most convenient bridge from which to view the skyline.
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Old February 26th, 2015, 01:38 AM   #13175
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Novotel Canary Wharf | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=573332

Official website: N/A



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  • Address: 40 Marsh Wall, London E14
  • Developer: Accor
  • Architect: Leach Rhodes Walker Architects
  • Height: 124m
  • Floors: 39



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Baltimore Tower | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=105569479

Official website: http://www.baltimorewharf.com/



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  • Address: 30 Limeharbour, London E14
  • Developer: Galliard Developments
  • Architect: Skidmore, Owings and Merrill
  • Height: 150m
  • Floors: 44



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Brookfield signs Pinnacle pre-construction deal
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New owner Axa and developer Lipton Rogers line up Brookfield Multiplex to build ‘rationalised’ tower scheme

The new owners of the Pinnacle tower scheme in London’s Square Mile have signed a pre-construction deal with Brookfield Multiplex, with the contractor set to build a radically redesigned tower scheme on the site, Building can reveal.

Fund manager Axa, alongside developer Lipton Rogers, sealed a landmark deal to buy the longstalled site from its former Saudi Arabian owners last Thursday, a deal first revealed by Building.

Axa and Lipton Rogers also signed a pre-construction deal with Brookfield Multiplex on the same day, Building has learned.

A source close to the project said Lipton Rogers will run a two-stage tender process for the scheme, but Brookfield should secure the full contract to build the tower “if they behave themselves”.

Brookfield Multiplex was drafted in to build the ill-fated Pinnacle scheme by its former Saudi Arabian owner Sedco and sharia-compliant fund Pramerica, but it was unclear whether the contractor would be retained by Lipton Rogers. The source said however: “Brookfield Multiplex worked with [Lipton Rogers] all the way through and will be carrying on through the process.”

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Novotel is going up like a rocket at the moment.
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Derwent London to start £125m Saatchi building job



Developer Derwent London plans to start work on its most ambitious London development project later this year.

The firm revealed this morning that it will start the 367,000 st ft mixed-use development at 80 Charlotte Street in Fitzrovia during the second half of the year.

Bam Construct, Brookfield Multiplex and Mace are all understood to be in the race for the £125m building contract.

Derwent put the project on hold in July 2013, after advertising giant Saatchi & Saatchi, which has occupied the building since 1975, delayed its move away from the property.

But it has now set a date to start work on the office, residential and retail project, which has been designed by architects Make.

The project will be part refurbishment and part new build with a substantial proportion of the existing structures retained thereby cutting waste and carbon emissions whilst reducing the construction period.

The 367,000 sq ft redevelopment will include 336,000 sq ft of office, residential and retail space at 80 Charlotte Street and 31,000 sq ft of residential at nearby 65 Whitfield Street and 1-8 Whitfield Place.
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Novotel is going up like a rocket at the moment.
I've noticed that! The work rate is very impressive.

I'm glad the Baltimore Tower is picking up some momentum now too.
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