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Old November 17th, 2015, 12:03 AM   #1201
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The train station is quite a nice building to be fair.

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Old November 17th, 2015, 12:10 AM   #1202
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From the southern bit of Sutton Park I've only ever noticed one or two distant tower blocks to the south (guessing the aforementioned Erdington blocks) and a housing estate to the south west. For the most part you feel like you could be in the middle of the countryside.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 12:12 AM   #1203
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Nothing wrong with the station both train and pub but the towers on the site opposite Gracechurch will not affect anything you have cited as being sensitive.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 11:08 PM   #1204
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It will - the view from the park. As Butters said, you feel like you could be in the middle of the countryside. I and '000's of others go there every day for precisely that reason. Surely that is worth something?
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Old November 18th, 2015, 11:00 AM   #1205
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It is but the fact you can see 3 towers from a small portion of the park doesn't harm the feeling of being in the countryside from the majority of the park. Which is the point. If the whole park was blighted by the towers i would agree but it won't be.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 12:09 AM   #1206
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Mere Green

Apres in Mere Green set to close in April.
Town and Country will be opening Fleet Street Kitchen there.

Great news for the area, re-investment from Town and Country.
Look forward to the refit.

http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westm...nd-carter.html
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Old February 17th, 2016, 11:40 AM   #1207
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Sutton Town Council officially comes into being next month with elections in May. Whilst I am all for localisation and local accountability does anyone know what powers and services this council will get, or what they are asking for?

http://www.suttoncoldfieldtowncouncil.com/

I particularly like the 'No political parties' stance - hope it comes off.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 02:07 PM   #1208
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Apres in Mere Green set to close in April.
Town and Country will be opening Fleet Street Kitchen there.

Great news for the area, re-investment from Town and Country.
Look forward to the refit.

http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westm...nd-carter.html
I was only saying the other day that I wouldn't be surprised to see this go.

It is always empty. Not a patch on the old site.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #1209
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Sutton Town Council officially comes into being next month with elections in May.
Well done to them. Another step closer to becoming a proper independent town again.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 08:16 PM   #1210
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lol Sutton wont be independent, its like say a parish council type thing, also as you may know Birmingham city council was thinking about each erea having it own district council, but overall the city council will run the city, I guess the best way of looking at is like how greater London is run, local councils then city hall runs it .
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Old February 17th, 2016, 08:25 PM   #1211
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I was only saying the other day that I wouldn't be surprised to see this go.

It is always empty. Not a patch on the old site.

It`s been rumoured for several years. It`s rarely busy and I`m guessing what they take on a Saturday night isn`t enough to sustain them. Big mistake moving in the first place. Could never understand why they did it.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 08:29 PM   #1212
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lol Sutton wont be independent, its like say a parish council type thing, also as you may know Birmingham city council was thinking about each erea having it own district council, but overall the city council will run the city, I guess the best way of looking at is like how greater London is run, local councils then city hall runs it .
I think it's a bit more than that. There's been talk of Sutton Coldfield being independent for years. You don't hear areas like Northfield demanding independence or being a town in its own right.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 08:52 PM   #1213
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Bas is right in that it is a town council which is the same as a parish...

in essence it means they get money from a council tax levy and get to plan and run some services. All of the services will be non-statutory services as the statutory duties will remain the responsibility of the Birmingham City Council.

The comparison to Greater London is not correct.

So there is a possibility that the town council don't offer any services locally as they do not have to. If both councils agree there can be a transfer of statutory services but Sutton Coldfield Town Council would have to demonstrate that it would offer best value in all aspects of that service (as i understand it anyway) to take control.

There is a list at the back of the Sutton Coldfield Town Council: initial analysis full report on this page http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/communi...ernance-review.

Just so you know, the budget for Transport in the wards is £8k this year which can't do a lot when it comes to highway improvement.

What usually happens is that the Town Council will take on some easy to administer services and will act as a lobby to get Birmingham to do the things they cannot achieve themselves or are not competent to deliver or would not achieve best value.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 11:02 PM   #1214
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Thats how I read it. It would be nice to get parks and street cleaning! Long term, planning would be an appropriate service to devolve. What I would really like to see is Childrens Services as BCC is way to big to be effective in schools and social services. Long term I believe Birmingham will use the Sutton model to divide up the city.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 11:04 AM   #1215
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Thats how I read it. It would be nice to get parks and street cleaning! Long term, planning would be an appropriate service to devolve. What I would really like to see is Childrens Services as BCC is way to big to be effective in schools and social services. Long term I believe Birmingham will use the Sutton model to divide up the city.
I can't see the city being broken up and devolved if i am honest. Not in the medium term anyway, i think we are looking plus 30 years at least for that to happen.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:59 PM   #1216
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Sutton Town Council officially comes into being next month with elections in May. Whilst I am all for localisation and local accountability does anyone know what powers and services this council will get, or what they are asking for?

http://www.suttoncoldfieldtowncouncil.com/

I particularly like the 'No political parties' stance - hope it comes off.
The Tories hope to put up 24 candidates - one for each seat - so I don't think the independents stand much chance of being elected.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 04:11 PM   #1217
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The same tories that initially opposed any idea of devolution. They support Sutton being in Birmingham as it gives them some chance of overall control. Labour only wants Sutton in Birmingham because of the tax receipts. When the two main parties don't have the residents best interest at heart then it is a sad state of affairs and one which has lead to Suttonians voting for a town council. Unfortunately you could pin a tory rosette on a dead sheep and it would get a landslide victory. Apart for Rob Pollock (Labour) Can anyone name any Sutton Councillor? What do they do for their £17K+ a year? Rant over.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #1218
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Rob Pocock is quite well known as a Sutton councillor because he`s in the local paper a lot. Another councillor is Anne somebody or other but that`s all I can remember.

But then, how many councillors can you think of in the rest of Birmingham?
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But they should be well known! They are paid to campaign for and solve the areas problems. They should be in the papers and occasionally on local news. They should be fronting campaigns. The only time I heard from the Tory councillors was a couple of years ago when they came out in force complaining the a devolved town council would cost us the earth and have no benefit, and we should be happy with the way things are. They changed their tune when the vote went against them though. If we cannot name our councillors and never hear about their good works how can we have confidence in the system? If you do a Google news search for Suttons Councillors such as Margaret Waddington you really do get bugger all, and she has been a councillor apparently since 2004!

At least with Pollock he lets you know what he is doing. (In the interests of neutrality Andrew Mitchell does regularly turn up to Sutton institutions such as schools, hospitals and remembrance days).
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Old February 18th, 2016, 08:21 PM   #1220
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thank you DJ for putting it a more detailed way, now going from memory Northampton had a parish council which had extra rates and they looked after a few things, but the NBC ran the town overall, now I was using the GL type thing just to show more or less how it might look ie city hall then the local district councils ie Havering , Romford erea. anyway I cant see Birmingham beeing run by all different councils it wouldn't work, maybe district council for each erea of the city but over BCC will run it,
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