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Old August 8th, 2010, 02:51 AM   #41
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I always wondered if Disney would build a theme park though in Florida but outside of their whole theme park area. Say that Disney was interested in building a Pixar theme park but we convinced them to build it over here instead.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 04:06 AM   #42
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Any idea if this thing will be moving forward any time soon?
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Old May 24th, 2011, 02:22 PM   #43
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Old May 25th, 2011, 02:38 AM   #44
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lol I know but there has to be a slight chance.

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Old May 25th, 2011, 03:36 AM   #45
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Such a project needs a catalyst.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #46
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Lets get to work!
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Old May 26th, 2011, 04:44 PM   #47
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I still want to know what the "Outback Experience" is!

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Old May 27th, 2011, 02:17 AM   #48
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Old May 27th, 2011, 07:34 PM   #49
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I suspect if resort-style casinos are approved by the legislature, then this project might get the catalyst that it needs, assuming Tampa is one of the locations chosen.
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Old May 28th, 2011, 04:07 AM   #50
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I suspect if resort-style casinos are approved by the legislature, then this project might get the catalyst that it needs, assuming Tampa is one of the locations chosen.
In common sense, I wouldn't see why not Tampa wouldn't get one. I'll always back spreading out the casinos between Tampa, Orlando, and Miami. Would had even better if we have HSR to transport national and international visitors between them, but many Orlando tourists will be tempted still to venture to Tampa if we have one or two casino resorts. I would wish that we could get Sands due to just name recognition and their potential $3 Billion Casino Resort. It's not impossible, but Miami or Orlando has a better chance just cause they're Miami and Orlando.

But I did say common sense, because we're talking about Tampa here. Who, if everyone hasn't realized yet, gets the short end of the stick. And Legislation can easily add language to a bill where it only says Miami and/or Orlando can only get casino resorts. Especially if the Seminole Tribe lessens up on their stance against all casinos and says sure, but not in areas where we exist.
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 07:39 PM   #51
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Best use of the land?

http://tbo.com/news/business/propose...elds-20140122/
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 08:08 PM   #52
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The fairgrounds needs a major overhaul, that is a very tired old place except for a few buildings and the amphitheater.

It would be great if they would redo the grounds and put in nice pedestrian paths and new roadways.

It makes sense to have a hotel and other types of activity, they are so far out of the city and Pinellas, they might do well with a hotel also being so close to the Hard Rock.
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 08:20 PM   #53
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I agree. I think the Expo Hall specifically needs to be demolished and rebuilt as a larger multi-use facility. The current Expo Hall is hideously outdated and is only able to accommodate certain events. Maybe have some breakout conference rooms on the sides and then the larger multi-use hall in the middle.
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 09:20 PM   #54
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An absolutely retarded scheme. Who comes up with this shit?

Hey, we've got a huge site adjacent to the most important expressway interchange in the region, and a casino drawing 20,000+ daily visitors... Development potential is virtually unlimited.

What should we build?

I know! Lets build a sprawling complex of little league fields and a small hotel!

Also, what is it in the water that makes these little league complexes so hot with developers and their politician lackeys?
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An absolutely retarded scheme. Who comes up with this shit?

Hey, we've got a huge site adjacent to the most important expressway interchange in the region, and a casino drawing 20,000+ daily visitors... Development potential is virtually unlimited.

What should we build?

I know! Lets build a sprawling complex of little league fields and a small hotel!

Also, what is it in the water that makes these little league complexes so hot with developers and their politician lackeys?
Do you have kids? Boys who play baseball....who cares what they build there or why, its not our money. As long as it gets a good makeover and has some other use.

Anyways, why can't we look at what is there now and see this as a 'HUGE' improvement?

What project are you going to do at a higher cost to make us all happy?
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They could sell 10 acres to the Seminoles, turn the rest into a park and it would be a vastly more productive outcome than this underwhelming plan.

And yes, I have children.

And there you go again, saying "it's not our asset". The fairgrounds are indeed a public asset, which ultimately rolls up under the authority of the state Sec of Agriculture. The last I checked, the biggest issues that people care about these days are low taxes and job creation. Givens those priorities, doing things like ensuring that public lands are utilized to their maximum and best use is isn't an option, it's imperative. There's no way in hell a little league baseball complex can be argued to be either the best or the maximum use for the site. It's a non-starter in my opinion.
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They could sell 10 acres to the Seminoles, turn the rest into a park and it would be a vastly more productive outcome than this underwhelming plan.

And yes, I have children.

And there you go again, saying "it's not our asset". The fairgrounds are indeed a public asset, which ultimately rolls up under the authority of the state Sec of Agriculture. The last I checked, the biggest issues that people care about these days are low taxes and job creation. Givens those priorities, doing things like ensuring that public lands are utilized to their maximum and best use is isn't an option, it's imperative. There's no way in hell a little league baseball complex can be argued to be either the best or the maximum use for the site. It's a non-starter in my opinion.
Nothing new when it comes to planning in the Tampa area. I agree with you and the best part is there are wide open areas within a few miles that could easily have little league complex's built. Why isn't there a push for it there? That is a valuable site but as usual short sighted and stupid planning are not going to use the potential even close to its max.
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Nothing new when it comes to planning in the Tampa area. I agree with you and the best part is there are wide open areas within a few miles that could easily have little league complex's built. Why isn't there a push for it there? That is a valuable site but as usual short sighted and stupid planning are not going to use the potential even close to its max.
Exactly! There are parts along 301 that haven't even seen development yet. Put the ball fields there.
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Old January 24th, 2014, 03:28 AM   #59
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Exactly! There are parts along 301 that haven't even seen development yet. Put the ball fields there.
Merge it with the VSI Flames project at 301 and Falkenburg. Match made in heaven.

Oh, right. It's not next to the Hard Rock.
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They could sell 10 acres to the Seminoles, turn the rest into a park and it would be a vastly more productive outcome than this underwhelming plan.

And yes, I have children.

And there you go again, saying "it's not our asset". The fairgrounds are indeed a public asset, which ultimately rolls up under the authority of the state Sec of Agriculture. The last I checked, the biggest issues that people care about these days are low taxes and job creation. Givens those priorities, doing things like ensuring that public lands are utilized to their maximum and best use is isn't an option, it's imperative. There's no way in hell a little league baseball complex can be argued to be either the best or the maximum use for the site. It's a non-starter in my opinion.
I didn't say it wasn't our asset but rather its not our funds going into the project.

You must be involved in plans review, those guys always have everything to say about other peoples plans and investments...
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