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Old October 19th, 2012, 04:07 AM   #61
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There will be a large deck (with pool) above the podium containing the parking garage.
but for residents only?
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Old October 19th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #62
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It's going to be like what Element, Skypoint, Grand Central, etc all have. Since this sounds like it's going to be modeled after Element and Skypoint, it will have a pool and all that jazz above the parking levels. This is only for residents and their guests.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #63
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but for residents only?
It's a reisdential building bro, it's not going to be open tot he public.

If it was a hotel, or multi-tenant office building, that would be different.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #64
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It's a reisdential building bro, it's not going to be open tot he public.

If it was a hotel, or multi-tenant office building, that would be different.
I think the same building as a hotel instead would have be ideal for the site. Throw in some restaurants/lounge and bar in the pool area at night and you have the new place to be in Tampa.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #65
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I think the same building as a hotel instead would have be ideal for the site. Throw in some restaurants/lounge and bar in the pool area at night and you have the new place to be in Tampa.
I think an apartment is better for now, and long term. They can build it as an apartment building and then convert to condos if they choose in the future. I am really not sure how many hotels Tampa needs in that area with the Courtyard, Residence Inn, HoJo, Floridan, and the soon to be courthouse hotel. Add the hotels in the south part of DT and DT actually has a lot of rooms available.

That said though, I liked how 12 was going to be a condo and hotel, that would have worked OK in this location if the condo market was not so bad right now.

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Old October 19th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #66
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I think the same building as a hotel instead would have be ideal for the site. Throw in some restaurants/lounge and bar in the pool area at night and you have the new place to be in Tampa.
There are enough hotel projects already going on downtown to saturate it for a few years (esp if Embassy Suites ever completes its build out). And without the steetcar connecting this end of DT to TCC, the forum, the aquarium/cruise terminals and Ybor, it's not as attractive of a location right now as one would think. Visitors don't want to stay in a downtown hotel and then have to drive to points of interest within downtown.


Btw... Something folks probably aren't realizing... This apartment building will be a good option for well heeled UT students, who will easily be able to walk/bike over to the campus.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #67
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I've looked at several photos of DT and Straz on flickr and am still trying to imagine how this tower will look in the skyline. Seems like it will be somewhat isolated and could be the new dominate building of north downtown even if it's not as tall as Element.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 03:28 AM   #68
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Well heeled? You mean every spoiled silver spoon kid that goes to UT? I wouldn't be surprised if there were some UT kids renting at skypoint right now.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 03:49 AM   #69
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Having went to UT last year (my freshman year), you are correct in that guess. There is a large handful of kids that live in Skypoint, and even more in Element. This new project would with out any doubts attract a good chunk of UT kids.

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Old October 20th, 2012, 03:56 AM   #70
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Well heeled? You mean every spoiled silver spoon kid that goes to UT? I wouldn't be surprised if there were some UT kids renting at skypoint right now.
Well heeled, spoiled... Tomatoe, tomahto.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #71
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Tampa Bay Times, specifically Sue Carlton, seem to be going down the NIMBY argument of "MY VIEWS! MY VIEWS! My precious views!" against this proposal. What building's view would this block again mainly? Oh yeah, the Times Building!

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...r-view/1257450
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Old October 20th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #72
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Tampa Bay Times, specifically Sue Carlton, seem to be going down the NIMBY argument of "MY VIEWS! MY VIEWS! My precious views!" against this proposal. What building's view would this block again mainly? Oh yeah, the Times Building!

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...r-view/1257450
Oh just ignore the "opinionated" times articles. She would'nt have said that if it was being built in St. Pete. Tall buildings don't ruin the river especially when we have a river walk as a buffer. Sorry St. Pete, we have the river, you don't. We have a better skyline, you don't.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #73
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Oh just ignore the "opinionated" times articles. She would'nt have said that if it was being built in St. Pete. Tall buildings don't ruin the river especially when we have a river walk as a buffer. Sorry St. Pete, we have the river, you don't. We have a better skyline, you don't.
It's also not even on the river... The public Riverwalk is. Hard to tell that from the article though.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 12:50 AM   #74
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Drove around there today to try to see where it would be built. I should have parked and walked to it. From what I saw it would be very close to the river. If there is too much drama and politics (and there always is when a tall building is proposed in Tampa), then the devoloper can just build it somewhere else around there. There's plenty of available places in north DT.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 12:56 AM   #75
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Tampa Bay Times, specifically Sue Carlton, seem to be going down the NIMBY argument of "MY VIEWS! MY VIEWS! My precious views!" against this proposal. What building's view would this block again mainly? Oh yeah, the Times Building!

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...r-view/1257450
What a world class ******* idiot that woman is.

I've never read a more idiotic commentary on an urban development in my life.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 01:04 AM   #76
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Can we have this thread renamed to "art deco apartment tower next to Straz" or something else?
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Old October 21st, 2012, 03:02 AM   #77
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I wish there was a way we could look at the full 68 page proposal of this project.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 04:08 AM   #78
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^I have it.

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Old October 21st, 2012, 04:46 AM   #79
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Apparently if Sue Carlton is so opposed to building someting on a narrow river, someone should show her a picture of Chicago.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 06:20 AM   #80
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Looks like this project is a good candidates for the YiMBY sentiment the of Blueprint: more residents, better street grid, very little disagreement on here.
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