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Old March 9th, 2015, 10:31 PM   #41
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I will admit, having cranes in your skyline view isn't the most appealing aspect, but we've actually enjoyed watching the progress/process of Skyhouse and sometimes forget that the crane ISN'T supposed to be there.

GC didn't really have any noise associated with Skyhouse, but The Place residents did, and that was quickly put to rest evidently when the Skyhouse management team reworked timing of loudest construction and turned off the generator at night.

Bring on the amazon building crane! Ready to get this project started and completed.
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Old March 10th, 2015, 09:03 AM   #42
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Really wish someone would have gotten after them to put additional ground floor commercial along 12th. Not a lot, just enough to help further activate 12th as a ped corridor, and not be just a residential side street people use to get to somewhere else.
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Old March 11th, 2015, 12:28 AM   #43
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Fence is up around the Amazon Factory:

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Old March 11th, 2015, 12:46 AM   #44
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Old March 11th, 2015, 01:50 AM   #45
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You've got a prime view of it. Interested to see if us gcak guys will have to deal with sound at night like the place did
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Old March 11th, 2015, 02:24 PM   #46
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Count on it. Grand Central, the Slade, Channelside Lofts, Dance Project...we'll all be in the same boat. Oh well, price of progress. It will be a nice addition to the neighborhood.
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Old March 11th, 2015, 03:06 PM   #47
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Will it be as bad as Skypoint considering this is a lesser height project?
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Old March 11th, 2015, 03:50 PM   #48
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When Grand Central was being built about ten years ago or so, we were bombarded with pounding noises at all hours of the night. And that's what - 14 stories? Certainly much shorter than Skyhouse.

Although there were probably only a few hundred residents in the district at that time, it was a pain in the butt for those of us who had to live through it. But again, it comes with the territory if you want to reside in a growing urban neighborhood.
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Old March 11th, 2015, 08:29 PM   #49
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The glass is pretty thick on my balcony. Only real noise pollution that comes through is Harley's and big trucks and its pretty muted. I also sleep like a brick so... I will be impressed if its loud enough to keep me up at night
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Old March 11th, 2015, 09:23 PM   #50
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I hope she doesn't sell. The building adds a great texture to the neighborhood. I'm going out on a limb to say that I'm somewhat sad to see the Amazon building go. There are aspects that I think are architecturally charming. Beyond this example, I wish Tampa had a healthier relationship with old buildings.
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I'm not at all kidding, and I can name several (purely economic) reasons why "blighted" buildings are a great asset to emerging inner city neighborhoods. To say nothing of other, non-market reasons as to why we might value older structures.

As for the physical status of the building (code compliance), I can't comment about this particular property.

I would agree with this. The amazon building, if restored properly , could have been a nice addition to the neighborhood. The old, gritty, warehouse look provides a sense of history and gives a nice balance to the majority modern architecture we see in channelside. IMO an important part of living in an urban environment is all the old buildings that comes with it.

Having said that, channelside is desparately in need of more residents to hit that critical mass you here of to really create a vibrant neighborhood. If channelside had been built with much greater density then I would opt to keep the amazon building assuming it gets the proper renovation but since it did not get built with enough density then I'm more for the new construction and the additional residents.

Now as far as the several older brick buildings left in the neighborhood, I'm 100% for keeping them, just my opinion.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 02:34 AM   #51
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If we are ever going to get a sustainable presence of businesses within the Channel District, that critical mass is necessary. It's taken how many years to have Victory, Bamboozle, Pour House, City Dog, Cena (and the failed 1120), and the few versions of business that is currently Maloneys? Risk takers opening these places use simple numbers to determine viability. Becoming a destination is the gravy, but the locals have to sustain. Not suggesting I want the Channel District to be like SoHo, but you get my point.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 05:14 PM   #52
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Looking at the view of the Amazon building, it could have been a great place like Ulele, perhaps a brewery, restaurants and some shops. Perhaps even a social hall or some other public use.

Of course its going to be much better redeveloped but I had never considered it as a re-purposed development.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 07:13 PM   #53
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What would have been really sweet was if the developer saved and re purposed the east Amazon building seen in the pic above and just demolished the west building and then built a high rise on that plot of land that is equipped with around the same number of units as what's initially been proposed. This would have been a gamechanger. The Amazon building could have been a really cool place
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Old March 12th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #54
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Ideally, saving the east building and making it an urban market/restaurant would had been amazing. The Amazon building would stay, have a fresh/organic restaurant on the northern side, outdoor seating would work if you remove the entrance part of the building, and then make the southern portion a nice urban market with outdoor vendors too. You would had enough room to still fit a tower on the rest of the property and it would had been taller too.

But this is a big business sugar company, they'll build something decent looking and sell. I highly doubt they thought what the community might want.
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Looking at the view of the Amazon building, it could have been a great place like Ulele, perhaps a brewery, restaurants and some shops. Perhaps even a social hall or some other public use.

Of course its going to be much better redeveloped but I had never considered it as a re-purposed development.
An adaptive reuse that is a full blown mixed-use commercial project sounds awesome... But again, with nowhere near a critical mass of inhabitants in the neighborhood, there's simply not much demand for expended service sector commercial.

The district needs a much higher intensity of development than the city has been approving, that's for damn sure. I think it's becoming clear that the city's vision for a complete urban neighborhood with a robust mix of uses (typically regarded as equal parts residents, workers and visitors), is failing at this point. I'm sooo glad I never bought in the area when I had the chance to in the mid 2000s. I would have been extremely pissed to see my investment get thumbed at the way I feel the city has. Look at all the BS they tell people, and little of it has ever been followed through on.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #56
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There have been definitely many shortcomings. If I trusted the city do right, I would suggest incorporating tax incentives to lure a hotel in the area. But I would require so much from the developer at the same time. Garage must be at the base of project and not detached from the hotel. Garage must be well designed and blend with the hotel design, not be a gray mass. Height of nothing less than 15 stories. Retail of a certain amount of square feet. And certain design elements.

But again, I have lost faith to fully orchestrate anything really in development correctly.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:55 PM   #57
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The "garage" doors on the west side of the building and the front "garage" door on the west bldg were open with lots of tire tracks -- clearing it out inside!
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Old March 13th, 2015, 03:59 AM   #58
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Maybe the sign can be salvaged and preserved. Don't know though if it's significant enough to put in a museum representing part of Tampa's industrial past.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 05:30 AM   #59
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The "garage" doors on the west side of the building and the front "garage" door on the west bldg were open with lots of tire tracks -- clearing it out inside!
Yeah I posted a picture on my Twitter today of the the west side open and a large trash container pretty full.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 01:19 AM   #60
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The roof is coming down!

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