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Old January 12th, 2015, 08:40 PM   #21
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Once these last two parcels are built on and occupied, my guess is you'll start to see buildings knocked down and replaced at Gallery at Bayport II Apartment Homes (formerly Island Place) within a decade. Those buildings are getting old anyways. And 2 story garden style site plan? Not only could they be gone, they should be gone.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 09:51 PM   #22
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The 2-3 story stand a lone garage at Knights Run and Harbour Island Blvd. could be redeveloped into a residential tower before the current residential stock is touched. Then that little 1 story professional building at Knights Run and Harbour Place as well (That's not being torn down for Manour, is it?). Or the Suntrsut Bank site.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #23
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^That garage is heavily used by the hotel and office tower though. I've thought about that before. They would have to have somewhere nearby to put the vehicles. The single floor they have underneath the development wouldn't be enough. But there isn't anywhere now that the Manor will gobble up the excess parking in the garage across the street. I think they would have to wait until the hotel itself was also being redeveloped, or the office tower was somehow empty or nearly empty. Either that, or set up a costly shuttle to run employees back and forth to S Regional and Ft Brooke for 18-24 months.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 06:30 PM   #24
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It's been almost a month now. Should be a update soon.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 01:32 PM   #25
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Here's an update:

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TAMPA — A group of 30-plus Harbour Island residents is taking its fight against a new apartment tower next door to state court.

In a suit filed Monday, the residents claim city of Tampa staff and the city council made a mistake in approving a developer’s plans to use a “sky bridge” to connect the proposed tower to a parking garage across the street.
http://tbo.com/news/business/neighbo...150210/?page=1
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Old February 11th, 2015, 02:23 PM   #26
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Just ridiculous. Maybe the neurosurgeon is actually worried his girlfriend will actually bump into his wife.

This is about as sane a fight as if (hypothetically) Grand Central residents tried to stop the new amazon hose site condo by declaring the current building a historic structure.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 05:31 PM   #27
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Taking it to state court? What next? Take it Federal Court?

It has nothing to do with the parking arrangement, it's all about blocked views.
Even if related comes up with a new plan with parking within the building, the Plaza people will still have issues.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 05:48 PM   #28
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No problem. Just waive most of the parking requirements which shouldn't exist in the first place.

I think you all know the refrain by now. This is yet another in a still growing list of projects which strongly indicate that Tampa doesn't have a clue when it comes to urban development. No wonder urban real estate investors still consider Tampa a 3rd tier market.

For all of the banter about our hero Mayor Bob, this is still a serious issue. Look at the shit getting built around downtown without objection from anyone, and then look at the better projects that face opposition, from a whole range of people who suddenly crawl out of the woodwork asserting themselves as development experts.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 06:02 PM   #29
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I'd laugh my ass off if Related came up with a new plan that puts a detached garage of this tower right on Knights Run. You know, a really cold and ugly one just like Skyhouse.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 06:08 PM   #30
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They're apparently too stupid to figure out that if Related is forced to integrate parking into its project, instead of tapping into adjacent excess parking, then there would then be enough excess parking across the street to build another separate tower on top of the existing garage too. (and HI's master plan more than allows for such density)

They're also apparently too stupid to figure out that if Related has to squeeze parking into roughly the same volume of tower, then it raises costs. This puts even more pressure on the developer to build tall and dense, so they'll probably push the tower to the absolute maximum volume allowed by setbacks and height restriction... In the end Related wouln't reduce the unit count much, they'll instead shrink the units (which are oversized, probably to ease a condo conversion later) and charge more per sqft. That's how it works in urban development.

The more parking these idiots scream for, the more overall density they're going to get.
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Old February 12th, 2015, 12:04 PM   #31
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Wow! A neurosurgeon. Well, at least it isn't Dr. McKalip raising hell.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:14 PM   #32
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Judge OKs approval of Harbour Island tower

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A judge has ruled that the city did not break the law by approving an apartment tower on Harbour Island but also criticized the city for failing to give neighboring residents enough chance to weigh in on the project.
http://tbo.com/news/politics/judge-o...150411/?page=1
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Old April 11th, 2015, 03:48 PM   #33
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I'm pretty sure the city went through the same identical process that they do for any other proposed project, so why does the city have to be different when it comes to Harbour Island residents?
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Old April 11th, 2015, 04:58 PM   #34
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She said the developer, Miami-based Related Development LLC, is now free to obtain permits on the project.
Should the developer wait on the permits until the it's final or what? Looks again like the developer is winning but the battle may not be completely over yet.
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Old April 24th, 2015, 03:17 PM   #35
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Any update on the other HI project, the Manor?

I saw the article that the original suit filed was null.
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Old April 24th, 2015, 04:55 PM   #36
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Developer can start getting permits (whatever that means).
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Old April 24th, 2015, 08:35 PM   #37
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I guess they got the site plan past HICSA's ARC review?
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Old June 19th, 2015, 02:25 AM   #38
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I emailed them and asked about the delay and also asked if they had an alternative parking plan. No reply this time.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 08:34 PM   #39
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I see the last activity on city portal for this as of July 17th for wastewater. Don't know if it's proof of getting closer to ground breaking. And the "taking it to state court" part? Don't know how that works, or how long it takes just to get a court date.
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Old July 30th, 2015, 06:53 PM   #40
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"Structural calculations"??? As of yesterday 7/29
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