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Old February 27th, 2017, 11:51 PM   #1
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HYDE PARK | 509 S. Hyde Park Ave. | 9 stories | 122 feet | 215 units | PRP

Up on portal. It's a 215 unit luxury assisted living facility.

Rezoning hearing set for July 20th.
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Old February 27th, 2017, 11:57 PM   #2
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Old February 28th, 2017, 01:03 AM   #3
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I think this is entirely appropriate for that particular site, though some small retail stores facing Hyde Park Avenue would be an improvement to the plan, IMO.
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Old February 28th, 2017, 01:08 AM   #4
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- This is in the local Hyde Park historic district, so a certificate will be needed and NIMBY's might come play
- This will be the tallest thing in Hyde Park not directly on Bayshore
- Definitely could use a retail slip or two, even if it's just a small cafe spot on the Hyde Park Ave/DeLeon corner. They're already going to have a loading zone for the residents' cafe as it is...
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Old February 28th, 2017, 06:37 PM   #5
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At least this is in an area that's not all that residential and already has a hodge podge of different building types of various heights. Someone will always complain about something but i think the NIMBY factor will be pretty low on this compared to some other Hyde Park plans.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 04:07 AM   #6
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New site plan with a driveway. Building height is 110 feet.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:06 AM   #7
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:13 AM   #8
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^Looks like a castle. This pushes the height up to 122 ft., not including flag pole.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 04:16 PM   #10
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Looks like a Spanish government building. That being said, I think it'll be nice for the area.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 04:22 PM   #11
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Rezoning hearing is August 10th.
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Interesting that the third rendering shows S. Cedar Ave. as a 3-lane road. Does this mean the developer will be widening the road from it's current 2-lane width?
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Old July 17th, 2017, 06:33 PM   #13
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I like it too. My first thought was it looks like a hotel you'd see in Cali.
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I love that architects are finally going back towards traditional styles. This building looks a bit art-deco / beaux arts inspired. Much better than EIFS boxes like Pierhouse. Also - the parking garage is incredibly well-concealed!
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I couldn't find the story online but on the ABC app last night there was a story about neighborhood opposition to this. One of the things cited was not enough parking spaces for the amount of beds at the facility. Because we all know how many people in ALF's are going out driving everyday! The other concern was traffic, which is almost non-existent in this particular smaller area any time of day. I love people that move to a city in the shadow of downtown and then complain about anything that makes a city more urban.
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I couldn't find the story online but on the ABC app last night there was a story about neighborhood opposition to this. One of the things cited was not enough parking spaces for the amount of beds at the facility. Because we all know how many people in ALF's are going out driving everyday! The other concern was traffic, which is almost non-existent in this particular smaller area any time of day. I love people that move to a city in the shadow of downtown and then complain about anything that makes a city more urban.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/lo...e-in-hyde-park
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The design of this seems to be made for that area, the parking should not be much of an issue although, I suspect these residents will have visitors and there should be enough for them to have a decent amount of space.

They will work it out...
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Old August 11th, 2017, 07:44 PM   #18
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For all the usual suspect reasons that appeal to NIMBY's, this was denied. Tampa apparently is happy forever relegating itself to a suburb with land use policies that support small to medium sized development. And give me a freaking break about Miranda's comment about going to a doctor there 45 years ago. That was 1972! I think my seven years old logic is easier to follow than Tampa's way of thinking about development.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuz...living/2333407
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The reality is that a large percent of these residents will have vehicles regardless of their use. They will also have high visitation not including the staff. Unless one is to assume people will be riding the bus here, there will need to be a decent amount of parking.

Backing into transportation will not make it happen, we are decades away from downtown Tampa having any real transit options and at best, that will be point to point such as a line from TIA to downtown. There will never be a subway type system here so parking will be a long time issue.

The point I guess is focus on rail options and stop trying to police development that don't fit what you think, Tampa will be someday because that will never happen here in any meaningful way.

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This proposal exceeded the amount of parking required by the city. It's across the street from multi story office buildings and a block away from a 20+ residential tower.
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