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Old November 3rd, 2006, 11:50 PM   #61
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I doubt that any meaningful work will occur at Element until Skypoint is considerably further along... As I've suggested before, Element isn't breaking ground this year, no matter how many units are or are not sold. My guess is more like march-ish, maybe later.
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Old November 4th, 2006, 01:33 AM   #62
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I have heard that it was going to start in November?
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Old November 4th, 2006, 03:01 AM   #63
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You heard that from people paid to glorify the project, not be pragmatic about it.
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Old November 4th, 2006, 08:23 AM   #64
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Who's being paid to glorify the project, Jason?
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Old November 4th, 2006, 04:45 PM   #65
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Basically anyone who hopes to profit from the project's development.
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Old November 4th, 2006, 10:00 PM   #66
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Oddly, I went by the site today and the traliers are gone, but in the area where they blocked off the road, they have put up what I will call a message board to put all the notices and other docs you need for a job. I find the whole Novare system very odd.

Once again, I would be shcoked if they started soon - but I was shocked when Skypoint started - and I have a weird feeling they might just start soon - htough the disappearing trailers is odd.
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Old November 4th, 2006, 10:10 PM   #67
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I went to the site yesterday and it looked like a tornado hit it. There was shit everywhere! How long do you all think it would take for a site like this to be cleared and ready for official groundbreaking?
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Old November 4th, 2006, 11:24 PM   #68
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A week if they needed to.
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Old November 5th, 2006, 08:27 AM   #69
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True, and it could also take ten years. I just think that they would not clear the site and then not do anything with it.
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Old November 5th, 2006, 02:07 PM   #70
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Hey mobster, just give Janet Zink a call at the "Times" -- I'm sure she knows the status of development.
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Old November 5th, 2006, 04:13 PM   #71
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True, and it could also take ten years. I just think that they would not clear the site and then not do anything with it.
Oh like Wood has with 610 Franklin?
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Old November 5th, 2006, 04:51 PM   #72
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I think the difference is that Wood cleared the site and put up a fence.

Novare has not completely cleared the site but has barricades in the middle of the road. That takes a bit more effort. I think if the plan was just to let it sit tehy would not have gotten the permission to put the barricades (there plan may fizzle or take a while, but I think the actually intend to do something - shocked as I am about it)
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Old November 5th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #73
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I'm not saying Element won't be built in a timely fashion. However lets not get ahead of ourselves with questions like "how long will it take the site to be cleared for official groundbreaking." Trump has had cranes on their site for a year plus and nothing's and they haven't gone vertical. I think Elemnet will begin going vertical around February or March.
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^To go vertical then, they would basically already have to be under construction.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 03:00 AM   #75
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Hopefully they will begin soon. Sad to hear 610 has been postponed after they demolished the historic buildings to build it.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 05:52 AM   #76
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^yeah no shit... They could have at least left the damn buildings alone... Maybe a different developer with a different priority set could have found a way to at least preserve the facades.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 05:59 AM   #77
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^yeah no shit... They could have at least left the damn buildings alone... Maybe a different developer with a different priority set could have found a way to at least preserve the facades.
It's funny they would allow a building to go down without some enforcement of one going up with all the precedent in this town. After all the crap the city council/ county commision has flung preventing/stalling redevelopment, this one stings.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 06:10 AM   #78
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Well, on the birghtside, I thought the design sucked, and questioned a condo going up on that block anyways... I would much rather see a large office tower, or at least a true mixed-use tower, which has a better combination of residential/office/retail/hotel...
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 02:12 AM   #79
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The Element condo site had some activity today. They have placed a trailer back on the site and have removed some of the trees. Hopefully this is a sign that things will start moving over there!
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I was driving around Tampa on Thanksgiving, and it looks to me that 610 Franklin and Element might just start about the same time..
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