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Old February 23rd, 2011, 11:37 PM   #1
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NOTTINGHAM | Victoria Centre Expansion | £240 million 490,000sq ft (Pre-planning)

Victoria Centre Expansion
Value £240million
Size 490,000 square feet
Height ?
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Current status: Pre-planning. Expected to go into planning in April

Capital Shopping Centres, owners of the Victoria Centre have proposed a £240million pound expansion. The plans focus on expansion over the bus station to the North of the current centre.

Plans are set to include new wider stores, dining and food outlets and leisure.


Image take from wikipedia

The Victoria Centre was built in the early 1970s on what was an old railway station.

Image : www.nottsheritagegateway.org.uk

It was expanded a few years ago to allow the building of the House of Frasier Department Store. Today it receives 23 million visitors per year and is currently 981,000sq ft.

Currently the centre is anchored by John Lewis, House of Frasier, Boots, Next, Tesco Metro

Other major stores include HMV, Monsoon, Republic, WHSmith, Swarovski, Lipsy and GAP. It also contains the well used and stocked Victoria Market on the second floor.

The new plans proposed would take the new centre to 1.475 million sq ft (larger than the 1.2million Sq ft proposed originally by Westfield for Broadmarsh).

Plans, renders and drawings are yet to be availiable.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 11:46 PM   #2
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£240million!!!!
Like I said already, this puts Westfield to shame!!!
How can these be planning on such a big budget to expand their shopping centres, and Westfield not?

I wonder if they are going to knock down the current carpark/bus station and build it there, or build it actually on top of what is there now?
Should be exciting to see the proposals.
And depending what the structure will be like, it could have new entrances and exits, which could expand the city even more?

(Thanks for making this thread btw )
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Old February 24th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #3
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I think this is excellent news for the city, however i am concerned about the expansion as currently there are some excellent views of the remains from the old Vic Station.

I hope they can capture the history as well as the future in the extension
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Old February 24th, 2011, 11:07 AM   #4
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What excellend views of the remains?
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Old February 24th, 2011, 11:45 AM   #5
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BBC report, showing the map of the area to expand on (highlighted)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-12564382
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Old February 24th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #6
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Hopefully some of the 240 mill will be spent on the existing centre..
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Old February 24th, 2011, 12:40 PM   #7
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Awesome, so they're knocking down York House and Area 51 then?
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Awesome, so they're knocking down York House and Area 51 then?
Seems so, but what's the Area 51? lol
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Old February 24th, 2011, 01:22 PM   #9
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What excellend views of the remains?
You can see quite clearly that the car park is built inside the old cutting, and you can also see the old Sherwood Rise Tunnel portal, I assume they are the views being referred to.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 01:41 PM   #10
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Knocking down York House? What about the Rose of England? Hope that stays!
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Old February 24th, 2011, 02:33 PM   #11
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Looking at the picture on the Evening Post website, The Rose of England is staying.

Lets hope that this project can get moving quickly without any hick ups. Looking forward to seeing the designs. It'll be interesting to see what they do with the cutting where the car park is.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 05:42 PM   #12
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Fantastic news.

Will be keen to see some detailed plans.

Surely this will push Westfield to maybe crack on with the future phases asap as some potential key stores will no doubt be lost to Vic Centre.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 07:48 PM   #13
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It won't happen but I'd love to keep and maybe improve the view of the tunnel, I love the way the land just drops unexpectedly there. Ideally they would make some use of the tunnel, I know going the other direction it is used for the heating but is it used at all going up Mansfield Road?
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Not that it wasn't expected...

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Victoria Centre woos M&S and Debenhams in battle with Broadmarsh

A £240 MILLION extension to the Victoria Centre could include a Debenhams and Marks & Spencer – opening up the prospect of a battle for big names with the rival Broadmarsh Centre.

The Post understands the centre owners, Capital Shopping Centres, also wants an expanded John Lewis department store as it seeks to woo the powerful high street shops.

It could lead to a race between the two centres as they compete fiercely for the same retailers.

Capital Shopping said it plans to increase the size of the Victoria Centre by half, adding 490,000 sq ft.


A refurbishment of the 40-year-old shopping centre could allow John Lewis to expand its floorspace further.

The retailer would not confirm it was in talks but in a statement said: "Nottingham is an important city for John Lewis and we see our shop in the Victoria Centre as one of our regional flagships. We would strongly support an investment to refresh and extend the retail offer in the shopping centre."

Debenhams and Marks & Spencer said more than two years ago they would become anchor tenants in the enlarged Broadmarsh Centre, but the expansion was put on ice in the wake of the financial crisis and recession.

Capital Shopping is expected to submit a planning application in April.

Broadmarsh owners Westfield have delayed the centre's expansion for ten years. Under pressure from the city council, Westfield pledged to give Broadmarsh a smaller £40 million makeover, due to start before Easter.

Westfield is understood to be in active talks with the council which are expected to lead to plans to extend Broadmarsh based on amendments to its existing outstanding planning application.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/ne...l/article.html
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Old February 25th, 2011, 12:26 PM   #15
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Hopefully some of the 240 mill will be spent on the existing centre..
This. It would be nice to see a re-clad of the existing exterior - The Milton Street elevations/John Lewis especially.
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westfield must be bricking it now......
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Old February 25th, 2011, 12:56 PM   #17
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I'll be interesting to see how they intend to refurb the existing part of the centre.
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westfield must be bricking it now......
Just abit lol
I wonder if Westfield are having second thoughts now?
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Old February 25th, 2011, 03:01 PM   #19
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We must not forget Harvey Nichols and Selfridges. If Westfield managed to pull that off they wouldnt be bothered as much by this. Will be interesting to see how this works out.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #20
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True, but I suspect that if victoria are getting M&S, Debenhams and a larger John Lewis and have room left over, that they will also being tapping up Harvey Nick and Selfridges, and given the choice, which one would you move to?

Don't get me wrong I've always thought that a new Broad Marsh would be better for the city than I larger Victoria Centre sweaping up all the larger chains....but how long do you wait for westfield to get its finger out?

I wonder what will happen to the building(s) that Debenham is in at the moment? I have always found them to be lovely buildings, but the layour inside is too quirky for a large department store.
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