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Old January 13th, 2006, 12:09 AM   #21
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Toad is right. That is also one of Evertons major downfalls. Could you imagine a nine time italian, German, Durch or Spanish league championship winning club playing in such a spartan ground? The off-field interest will greatly improve the on-field capabilities ofthe club. A major reason wht MARINE AFC re still Northern Premier fodder, and not a real league team.
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Old January 13th, 2006, 02:44 AM   #22
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There is no need for this to be all seater. Standing is still allowed and enjoyed at Rugby League.
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Old January 13th, 2006, 03:03 AM   #23
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The average Super League attendance in the 2005 regular season was 8,887 - the average for the Zurich Premiership in 2004/05 was 9,718, and the current average for the Guinness Premiership is around 10,500. The figure would be higher if around 40% of games a season weren't sold out - as you rightly pointed out, the union clubs are lagging behing their league counterparts at present in terms of stadia, though Bath, Gloucester and Leicester all have plans to expand soon.

I guessed that the FA Premier League averages over 30,000 and Division One about 15-20,000, I just don't know how Division Two compares which is why I said "fourth or fifth"...
I know that the Leeds Rhinos averaged over 17,000 last season which makes them the best supported rugby team again (both codes). Leeds Tykes averaged a few thousand again.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 05:54 AM   #24
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The average Super League attendance in the 2005 regular season was 8,887 - the average for the Zurich Premiership in 2004/05 was 9,718, and the current average for the Guinness Premiership is around 10,500. The figure would be higher if around 40% of games a season weren't sold out - as you rightly pointed out, the union clubs are lagging behing their league counterparts at present in terms of stadia, though Bath, Gloucester and Leicester all have plans to expand soon.

I guessed that the FA Premier League averages over 30,000 and Division One about 15-20,000, I just don't know how Division Two compares which is why I said "fourth or fifth"...

Its a matter of whether you believe what the media publish thought isnt it.
Just like they how they beef up the Leeds Tykes as if they are bigger than the Rhinos. The Rhinos reserve side has more following. Sale's crowds will drop when the novelty wears off and when Salford take up their prominence.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 03:56 PM   #25
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I know that the Leeds Rhinos averaged over 17,000 last season which makes them the best supported rugby team again (both codes). Leeds Tykes averaged a few thousand again.
True, though as I said most union clubs' grounds are too small to cope with the increase in demand since the game went pro - Leicester are limited to 16,800 but sell out for almost every game, as do Bath (10,600 including a lot of temporary seating) and Gloucester most of the time (13,000-odd). You're right about the Tykes though

Anyway, this is in danger of turning into a code-vs-code argument and that's not what I was trying to provoke - all I was doing was raising an eyebrow at Chogmook's statement "Teams are expected to be playing in national, if not world, class stadiums." and pointing out that league, just like union, is hardly a big fish in the UK's sporting pond...
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Old January 21st, 2008, 05:37 AM   #26
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True, though as I said most union clubs' grounds are too small to cope with the increase in demand since the game went pro - Leicester are limited to 16,800 but sell out for almost every game, as do Bath (10,600 including a lot of temporary seating) and Gloucester most of the time (13,000-odd). You're right about the Tykes though

Anyway, this is in danger of turning into a code-vs-code argument and that's not what I was trying to provoke - all I was doing was raising an eyebrow at Chogmook's statement "Teams are expected to be playing in national, if not world, class stadiums." and pointing out that league, just like union, is hardly a big fish in the UK's sporting pond...
Coming from Wakey, though you might be a League man TBH?
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Old January 21st, 2008, 05:37 AM   #27
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Old January 21st, 2008, 09:36 PM   #28
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Coming from Wakey, though you might be a League man TBH?
Hardly.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 09:33 PM   #29
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Old February 15th, 2008, 09:50 AM   #30
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Is officially underway.
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Old July 7th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #31
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Funding blow for City Reds' stadium

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Funding blow for City Reds' stadium
By James Chapelard


Salford City Reds ambitious plans for a stadium at Barton have been dealt a major blow after one of its main partners in developing the leisure and education complex failed to attract government backing.

Salford City College, one of the main drivers behind the project, has been refused development funding by the Learning and Skills Council (LSC) it was announced yesterday.

In January, the club announced that the newly-formed Salford City College - an amalgamation of three Further Education colleges within the city – would build a campus on the site of its proposed Barton stadium.

However, in April fears soon grew that funding from the LSC was being reigned in and that the college might miss out.

The college scheme was brought in to replace a hotel and conferencing facility within the stadium, which featured in earlier plans but have since been dropped.

The stadium's development team - Salford City Reds, City of Salford Council, Peel Holdings and Calford City College - have held what the club described as a "very positive" meeting to discuss the LSC's decision to refuse funding .

Salford City College Principal Peter Crompton said the LSC funding was "not and never has been the only way of funding our interest in the stadium development.

"The college has other options available to it and these are continuing to be explored ."

Meanwhile, Reds' chairman John Wilkinson said the club had "the land, planning permission and a highly qualified team working this project through".

“The people of the City of Salford deserve a high quality stadium along with one of the best college facilities in the country, and that is what we will give them.

“We ask fans to continue to support and trust the club, in what is a highly complex development .”
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Old July 7th, 2009, 12:53 PM   #32
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More info here. Apparently all is well.

http://reds.originalreddevils.com/20...dium-progress/
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Old July 7th, 2009, 02:25 PM   #33
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Funding blow for City Reds' stadium
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However, in April fears soon grew that funding from the LSC was being reigned in and that the college might miss out.
Nice to see journalists these days know the difference between "reigned" and "reined"...
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Old October 29th, 2009, 11:22 PM   #34
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Finally, a planning application has been submitted.

I really hope Pell haven't watered-down the original proposal to a boring meccano style football stadium.

No docs yet.

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Land Between The Manchester Ship Canal
Liverpool Road
Eccles

Outline planning application for the erection of 20,000 seat sports stadium with associated integrated facilities including a 208 bedroom hotel, gym, exhibition space (6340 sq m), bars (Class A4), restaurants (Class A3), takeaways (Class A5), museum, offices, media/creche rooms, gym and free standing 21,367 sq metres non-food bulk retail development, new access off Liverpool Road and new road through Eccles Waste Water Treatment site via existing access off Peel Green Road and bus interchange, parking and alterations to J11 M60/A57 Liverpool Road.
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Do people think the location of the new Salford stadium is appropriate? It seems like a very obscure place to me, it will have only 700 parking spaces, way out in the sticks. There is suggestion that the Metrolink may arrive there, in 2017, and again that's a maybe? Bloody horrible location.

Wouldn't a new ground nearer to the Weaste/Salford Quays area have been a much better option? Surely there was a nice industrial plot which could have been acquired at a reasonable price? Salford Quays would have enabled access to the Metrolink, plus maybe have attracted some new fans from Manchester, people who attend Man Utd, etc. Also, with the possibility of Sale Sharks sharing, that would have been ideal if some kind of commitment was made. The infrastructure and parking would have been amazing.

Although the ground sounds medicore, I think it's looking brilliant. It's smart-looking, compact and neat. I hope this proves to be a success for Salford Reds.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #36
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One factor that nobody seems to have mentioned yet is its proximity to the nearby sewage treatment works. Every time I've been to Airkix (on the other side of the M62) the stench has been pretty noticeable.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 02:22 PM   #37
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Not many pictures around of the new ground but it's nearly ready. First game is confirmed for Jan 8th.


This Pic is from the Reds Facebook page.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 02:23 PM   #38
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NOTE TO MODS:

Can you change the thread title. Capacity should be 12,000.
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Old December 14th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #39
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Old December 15th, 2011, 02:27 PM   #40
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Loads of new pictures on the Stadium Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3503631&type=1

I reckon we can change the title of the thread to Completed now

and here's one (Picture courtesy of Salford Reds facebook page) to make the Reds fans feel at home

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