daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Continental Forums > OZScrapers > Urban Spaces > City Images, Architecture & Historic themes

City Images, Architecture & Historic themes Photos, Archi-talk & History.



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old January 4th, 2018, 02:44 AM   #2121
prp002
Registered User
 
prp002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney 2000
Posts: 5,048
Likes (Received): 2112

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Bhoy View Post
Great photo.

They seem to have 6 lanes going southbound and only 2 north. I hadn't realised that the lane swapping thing had been around that far back. Do they still do it?

Also strange to see a train with a mix of single and double-decker carriages.
The first double deckers were mainly about augmenting single deckers. they were just trailer cars
prp002 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old January 4th, 2018, 08:50 AM   #2122
hornetfig
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Sydney...
Posts: 3,914

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Bhoy View Post
They seem to have 6 lanes going southbound and only 2 north. I hadn't realised that the lane swapping thing had been around that far back. Do they still do it?
Yes they still do that. There's lane availability gantries on the main bridge deck for it. It would have started when the Warringah Expressway opened, because that's like 42 lanes wide.

Quote:
Also strange to see a train with a mix of single and double-decker carriages.
Normal until the end of single deckers in 1992.

There were only two original red Tulloch double deck motor car (lead and trail cars of a four car set) and they were prototypes. Whereas there were like 100 Tulloch trailer cars wired up to work with either power door motor cars or manual door motor cars.

So a typical four car set could have one or two (or zero) double-deck cars.

Later, stainless steel all double-deck sets (sometimes painted red or in PTC blue livery) could also MU with the power door variants of the Tulloch trailers. This became more common as single deck cars were removed. Tulloch trailer cars lasted (now painted grey) until 2004.
__________________

Aussie Bhoy liked this post
hornetfig no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2018, 08:59 AM   #2123
michael_1970
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 98
Likes (Received): 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetfig View Post

There were only two original red Tulloch double deck motor car (lead and trail cars of a four car set) and they were prototypes. Whereas there were like 100 Tulloch trailer cars wired up to work with either power door motor cars or manual door motor cars.
there were 4 C3801-C3804 one was scrapped two were converted to trailer cars and the other is in the train museum at thilmere
__________________

hornetfig liked this post
michael_1970 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2018, 12:03 PM   #2124
prp002
Registered User
 
prp002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney 2000
Posts: 5,048
Likes (Received): 2112

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetfig View Post
Yes they still do that. There's lane availability gantries on the main bridge deck for it. It would have started when the Warringah Expressway opened, because that's like 42 lanes wide.



Normal until the end of single deckers in 1992.

There were only two original red Tulloch double deck motor car (lead and trail cars of a four car set) and they were prototypes. Whereas there were like 100 Tulloch trailer cars wired up to work with either power door motor cars or manual door motor cars.

So a typical four car set could have one or two (or zero) double-deck cars.

Later, stainless steel all double-deck sets (sometimes painted red or in PTC blue livery) could also MU with the power door variants of the Tulloch trailers. This became more common as single deck cars were removed. Tulloch trailer cars lasted (now painted grey) until 2004.
yep thats how I recall it in the 60s and 70s. The old double deckers were the first with the "not happy Jan" windows
prp002 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2018, 11:50 PM   #2125
Harry Andrews
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,704
Likes (Received): 926

That photo also highlights the absurdity of ridding the city of its tram network. Eight years after the North Shore trams ceased operations and seven years after the tracks were converted to roadway, the Cahill Expressway is banked up with traffic.

And no doubt that had been the daily reality for some time prior to 1966.
Harry Andrews no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 5th, 2018, 08:05 AM   #2126
hornetfig
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Sydney...
Posts: 3,914

Quote:
Originally Posted by prp002 View Post
yep thats how I recall it in the 60s and 70s. The old double deckers were the first with the "not happy Jan" windows
Tulloch windows were also smaller than S-set windows and the upper deck ones were so low you never got any breeze on your face. (But then I guess when S-sets were retrofitted with hopper windows, you never got any breeze on the lower deck. So basically windows have always been crap on double deckers)
__________________

Inego liked this post
hornetfig no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 6th, 2018, 11:04 AM   #2127
prp002
Registered User
 
prp002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney 2000
Posts: 5,048
Likes (Received): 2112

Quote:
Originally Posted by prp002 View Post
yep thats how I recall it in the 60s and 70s. The old double deckers were the first with the "not happy Jan" windows
S set Jan windows

__________________

Parra 1 liked this post
prp002 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 7th, 2018, 11:27 PM   #2128
Inego
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,862
Likes (Received): 157

Quote:
Originally Posted by prp002 View Post
S set Jan windows

Looks like the weather was cold enough to not not need the ventilation they provided.

I was on an S-Set this morning and the hoppers were, as ever, frigging useless.
Inego no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2018, 02:37 PM   #2129
mobus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,789
Likes (Received): 10116

Constructed in 1964, the State Office Block was colloquially known as the ‘Black Stump’ until its demolition in 1997.



I love black skyscrapers. This is one of the few 60s buildings I can justify keeping, so it's a shame it was destroyed.
__________________
Is Sydney really full? It is a question not asked of other global cities. Is New York full? How about Paris?

Parra 1, Aussie Bhoy liked this post
mobus no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2018, 09:18 PM   #2130
S.Zampatti
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,672
Likes (Received): 561

If you look behind the State Office Block you will see the Commonwealth Centre with the Bureau of Meteorology radar on the roof; when the former was built it blocked the northern part of the radar scan from being seen. For some reason the radar could not be re-sited on the State Office Block.
The radar is now on Blues Point Tower and can be seen turning all day every day.
__________________

TheLakes, Just build the thing liked this post
S.Zampatti no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 19th, 2018, 07:56 AM   #2131
DeclanHaselhurst
Registered User
 
DeclanHaselhurst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Sydney
Posts: 120
Likes (Received): 22

Quote:
Originally Posted by mobus View Post
Constructed in 1964, the State Office Block was colloquially known as the ‘Black Stump’ until its demolition in 1997.



I love black skyscrapers. This is one of the few 60s buildings I can justify keeping, so it's a shame it was destroyed.


First State Office Block, then Waterboard now Goldfields? What's next? IMHO we need to stop tearing down 60s buildings otherwise even Australia Square could follow suit.
DeclanHaselhurst no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 19th, 2018, 09:30 AM   #2132
Parra 1
Parramatta
 
Parra 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 31,533
Likes (Received): 168831

Parramatta City 1980 by Parracity, on Flickr

#565 Ship "Oriana" Sydney Harbour c Jan 1966 SS Oriana P&O ship by Yvonne Thompson, on Flickr
__________________
PARRAMATTA : Building Australia's Next Great City

PARRAMATTA : Capital Of Western Sydney

djole13, Aussie Bhoy liked this post

Last edited by Parra 1; January 19th, 2018 at 09:53 AM.
Parra 1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 19th, 2018, 10:16 AM   #2133
prp002
Registered User
 
prp002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney 2000
Posts: 5,048
Likes (Received): 2112

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeclanHaselhurst View Post
First State Office Block, then Waterboard now Goldfields? What's next? IMHO we need to stop tearing down 60s buildings otherwise even Australia Square could follow suit.
Australia Square is Heritage Listed with the NSW Office of Environment & Heritage

Boundary:
Listing includes Australia Square Tower, the Plazz, and the Plaza Building at 87-95 Pitt Street.

Statement of significance:

Australia Square is one of the most outstanding late twentieth century international style works of architecture for which Harry Seidler was awarded both the Royal Australian Institute of Architects Sulman Medal and Civic Design Award in 1967, in the year of its completion.

Australia Square Tower established new principles in design and construction through its distinctive efficient cylindrical form, the use of reinforced concrete shaped sculpturally for structural efficiency and its innovative approach to urban renewal, through site amalgamation, and being the first to translate the incentives of the interim City of Sydney Strategic Plan into creation of an extensive plaza that remains one of the most highly successful civic spaces in Australia

It is of historic significance for its pioneering approach to the problems of urban redevelopment through amalgamation and the provision of public space on private land, thus minimising problems of pedestrian congestion It was the first city block development in Sydney and a milestone for its architectural and urban contribution to the post war city.

It is aesthetically significant as a finely crafted building and a seminal work by Seidler. The tower is significant for the many technological advances of the time such as patterned ribbing, tapering columns and the use of pre cast concrete both as permanent formwork, developed in collaboration with world renown engineer, Pier Luigi Nervi.

The development is significant for the first time collaboration of Seidler and Nervi. Australia Square is of social importance for its subsequent influence on the architectural profession and as a landmark building to the general population.

It is scientifically significant for the early use of precast panels utilising structural lightweight concrete to the tallest height in the world at the time of construction. It is significant as the highest and still the largest revolving restaurant in the world with the fastest lifts at the time of construction.


Further information:

High Significance: All the intact constructed fabric of the façade. The foyers, the plaza and artworks.

Medium Significance: The Summit Restaurant.

Low Significance: All remaining interior including the interior of level 8.

Was a heritage item in 1989 and remains so to the present. Australia Square is a "nominated place" on the National Heritage List as of 11/5/2007.

In general the building retains its original design appearance but the original fabric has been restored with new compatible finishes. Internally the building has been remodelled at the upper office levels but specific significant spaces such as the lower level public spaces are highly intact. Level eight retains its original fitout.

http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/he...spx?ID=2423763





__________________

fredthehead liked this post

Last edited by prp002; January 19th, 2018 at 10:21 AM.
prp002 no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium