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Old Today, 12:30 AM   #881
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There is still a lot of non AC buses etc and T18 might borrow from their window design
Unlikely boss.
An old style open window Indian bus goes at 80 kmh.
Tops.
A train rather faster.
Just work it out.
The nearest bus type in India to train 18-20 is, say a Volvo.
Have you ever seen a long distance modern bus without AC ?
A Volvo or Mercedes in India?
Or any bus in the modern world in another country ?
No?
Or any modern train ?

Theres a reason for that.
Fixed windows.
Nyet ?
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ok fair enough. Just saying they did that to the LHB coach which started out as an AC Coach, fully insulated with very good NVH properties. It originally looked sleek like a Volvo coach. Then they added windows with iron bars and shutters. Don't know what the top speed is - if it gets above 100 kph they can close the shutter. Or add forced ventilation

Anyway by the looks of it this project will take a long time to get to that stage, many years in fact

this kind of bus is still very common

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Yes this kind of bus is still common.
But not in modern countries.

( its still based on old 1960's Perkins mechanics & chassis so never tops 80 kmh)

And not on contemporary trains .
Look what do I know ?
Maybe India will have modern train coaches on SHSR with non AC & windows that open.
It'll be a complete dissaster if they do.
Noisy hot & dirty..
So pointless.
Old trains everywhere in Europe had windows with openable sections, usually at the top of each window.
The main bit was fixed glass.
But non of those trains were in a country with sub/ tropical climate.
So not so much of an issue.
I hope Im right & youre wrong but who knows ?
Maybe Im just not getting it at all & youre on the button.

If you google Thai , Malaysian ,Vietnamise trains .
Theres plenty of pics.
And some are definatly non fixed window as you've suggested.
But Im unsure if theyre SHSR or shuttle services or whatever.
And Im buggered if Ive got the time to find out to back up your point.
But you could 😉
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