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Old October 13th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #2901
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Hilton Garden inn additional storeys underway
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Old October 15th, 2017, 12:02 AM   #2902
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The last thing we should be doing is lumping more traffic onto the side of the M50.
Right, so we should freeze all developement along the M50 on either side for the the full lenght?

That will solve the accommodation crisis and facilitate the development of Dublin


Or are you with the Irish Times editorial today which reckons we can solve the accommodation shortage by banning airbnb...without the need to do anything so ghastly as actually building anything?
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Old October 15th, 2017, 01:21 AM   #2903
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Old October 15th, 2017, 02:39 PM   #2904
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How many storeys will the hotel be after?
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Old October 16th, 2017, 04:20 AM   #2905
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Still less than it should have been to begin with.
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Old October 16th, 2017, 04:06 PM   #2906
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they're expanding the back of that hotel as well
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 12:17 PM   #2907
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Application was lodged during the week - 3697/17
additional info requested

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In this regard the applicant is requested to re-examine the height of the proposed building, with a view to a reduction to no more than five storeys with one or two additional setback levels.
They also asked for more brick.

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Old October 23rd, 2017, 01:59 PM   #2908
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additional info requested

Here is the main and expected part:


They also asked for more brick.

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I agree with them at this location. Its current height looks ridiculous here
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 02:04 PM   #2909
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Hideous. I don't really mind the height reduction, but that new facade is a disgrace. Can't find the old renders to compare though.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 02:54 PM   #2910
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Hideous. I don't really mind the height reduction, but that new facade is a disgrace. Can't find the old renders to compare though.
Yeh it is awful But theyre the old renders I think? And the council asked them to change it
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 02:55 PM   #2911
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Also that jervis centre depot area is disgraceful . Leaves a massive gaping hole in the urban fabric of an important street. Could they not put some kind of carriage building there that allows cars and trucks in but doesnt leave the streetfront completely empty. Not to mention the fact that the shopping centre also looks hideous at that part
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 11:40 PM   #2912
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Yeh it is awful But theyre the old renders I think? And the council asked them to change it
Aye, you're right, the photomontages I saw before just didn't include one particular angle that makes the extent of the amount of brick facade clear. I'm amazed that DCC are asking for more brick here, but maybe a different balance will fix it, I dunno.
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Old October 24th, 2017, 12:35 AM   #2913
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Aye, you're right, the photomontages I saw before just didn't include one particular angle that makes the extent of the amount of brick facade clear. I'm amazed that DCC are asking for more brick here, but maybe a different balance will fix it, I dunno.
I would say by that they meant they want a building that appears as though its constructed from brick. Rather than just having some token brick cladding here and there like above
I actually like the white stone> I think it needs to be made mostly from that or else more brick as suggested and no stone
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Old October 24th, 2017, 02:03 PM   #2914
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I would say by that they meant they want a building that appears as though its constructed from brick. Rather than just having some token brick cladding here and there like above
I actually like the white stone> I think it needs to be made mostly from that or else more brick as suggested and no stone
Yeah, like I say, the current balance of materials is pretty awful.
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Old October 24th, 2017, 03:00 PM   #2915
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I think that building looks really nice. I actually agree with the reduction in height, the three set back floors just look out of place. Hopefully the new proposal will either be the current height without the setback or reduced to five floors with a setback, and those trees on top on that terrace
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Old October 24th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #2916
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I think that building looks really nice. I actually agree with the reduction in height, the three set back floors just look out of place. Hopefully the new proposal will either be the current height without the setback or reduced to five floors with a setback, and those trees on top on that terrace
Leafy green roof gardens are a common render ploy to sell the building better. They often dont materialise and if they do itll be more like a gravelled terrace than a leafy 5th floor park, because of issues with soil weight, drainage, maintenance and wind. And you have to remmebr that itll probably make very little difference to how the building is enjoyed at street level, but looks nice from these aerial views yeh..
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Old October 25th, 2017, 11:02 PM   #2917
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Permission has been granted for new office development along Grand Canal


The application site is located to the north of no. 19a and 19-25 Dartmouth Road, Dublin 6, d06 cv44. development will consist of refurbishment and alterations to the existing 8 storey Carroll's building (a protected structure rps ref. 3280), to include refurbishment of original features and removal of later building fabric, including a single storey rear extension. The proposed alterations include a change of use from office to cafe / restaurant at basement and ground floor level and a gallery / multi-purpose space at first floor level. External alterations to the protected structure include replacement glazing, the reinstatement of the original undercroft, alterations to the existing plant area at roof level and landscaping to the curtilage of the existing protected structure. Demolition of 3 no. existing warehouse / light industrial building to the south of the protected structure and other ancillary structures on the site.

The provision of a new part 3, part 4, part 5 and part 6 storey, over two levels of basement, new office building to the south of and setback from the Carroll's building. The proposed office building is connected to the Carroll's building by a 6 storey glazed atrium and an 8 storey link which provides for new shared circulation / lobby and a services core. a roof terrace is provided at fourth and fifth floor level. The proposed office extension has a total gfa of 10,658 sq.m including basement floorspace. Vehicular access to the office building and basement car park will be from grand parade and a secondary controlled vehicular access will be provided from Dartmouth Road.

The development includes 30 car parking spaces, 126 bicycle spaces, changing facilities and plant area, including electrical rooms, substation and switchrooms at basement level - 1. A plant room is also provided at basement level -2. nine surface level car parking spaces are provided. The total floorspace, including existing retained and proposed new floorspace, including basement area, to be provided on site is 15,647 sq.m gfa. the development includes all associated site development works, hard and soft landscaping and all other ancillary works.
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The application site is located to the north of no. 19a and 19-25 Dartmouth Road, Dublin 6, d06 cv44. development will consist of refurbishment and alterations to the existing 8 storey Carroll's building (a protected structure rps ref. 3280), to include refurbishment of original features and removal of later building fabric, including a single storey rear extension. The proposed alterations include a change of use from office to cafe / restaurant at basement and ground floor level and a gallery / multi-purpose space at first floor level. External alterations to the protected structure include replacement glazing, the reinstatement of the original undercroft, alterations to the existing plant area at roof level and landscaping to the curtilage of the existing protected structure. Demolition of 3 no. existing warehouse / light industrial building to the south of the protected structure and other ancillary structures on the site.

The provision of a new part 3, part 4, part 5 and part 6 storey, over two levels of basement, new office building to the south of and setback from the Carroll's building. The proposed office building is connected to the Carroll's building by a 6 storey glazed atrium and an 8 storey link which provides for new shared circulation / lobby and a services core. a roof terrace is provided at fourth and fifth floor level. The proposed office extension has a total gfa of 10,658 sq.m including basement floorspace. Vehicular access to the office building and basement car park will be from grand parade and a secondary controlled vehicular access will be provided from Dartmouth Road.

The development includes 30 car parking spaces, 126 bicycle spaces, changing facilities and plant area, including electrical rooms, substation and switchrooms at basement level - 1. A plant room is also provided at basement level -2. nine surface level car parking spaces are provided. The total floorspace, including existing retained and proposed new floorspace, including basement area, to be provided on site is 15,647 sq.m gfa. the development includes all associated site development works, hard and soft landscaping and all other ancillary works.
I love the building but why is it protected? Out of curiosity
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Old October 26th, 2017, 12:29 PM   #2919
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Liffey Street = horrendous. More NAMA-approved frumpy brick panels designed by Paddy the bricklayer.
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Old October 26th, 2017, 12:33 PM   #2920
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The application site is located to the north of no. 19a and 19-25 Dartmouth Road, Dublin 6, d06 cv44. development will consist of refurbishment and alterations to the existing 8 storey Carroll's building (a protected structure rps ref. 3280), to include refurbishment of original features and removal of later building fabric, including a single storey rear extension. The proposed alterations include a change of use from office to cafe / restaurant at basement and ground floor level and a gallery / multi-purpose space at first floor level. External alterations to the protected structure include replacement glazing, the reinstatement of the original undercroft, alterations to the existing plant area at roof level and landscaping to the curtilage of the existing protected structure. Demolition of 3 no. existing warehouse / light industrial building to the south of the protected structure and other ancillary structures on the site.

The provision of a new part 3, part 4, part 5 and part 6 storey, over two levels of basement, new office building to the south of and setback from the Carroll's building. The proposed office building is connected to the Carroll's building by a 6 storey glazed atrium and an 8 storey link which provides for new shared circulation / lobby and a services core. a roof terrace is provided at fourth and fifth floor level. The proposed office extension has a total gfa of 10,658 sq.m including basement floorspace. Vehicular access to the office building and basement car park will be from grand parade and a secondary controlled vehicular access will be provided from Dartmouth Road.

The development includes 30 car parking spaces, 126 bicycle spaces, changing facilities and plant area, including electrical rooms, substation and switchrooms at basement level - 1. A plant room is also provided at basement level -2. nine surface level car parking spaces are provided. The total floorspace, including existing retained and proposed new floorspace, including basement area, to be provided on site is 15,647 sq.m gfa. the development includes all associated site development works, hard and soft landscaping and all other ancillary works.
And wasn't this land bank being held for Metro South? There goes that plan.
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