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View Poll Results: Fluoride in public water?
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Old November 12th, 2013, 03:49 PM   #1
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Irish Water Fluoridation Policy

I never realised Ireland's national policy of putting fluoride in water so we all have nice shiney teeth has meant, in Europe at least, by far the biggest proportion of the population drinks water with fluoride in it.

(And this won't change after water charges are introduced either).

There appears to be numerous campaigns and websites dedicated to ending the practice. Some of it seems to be of the tin foil hat variety.

http://www.endirishwaterfluoridation.com/

http://www.fluoridefreewater.ie/


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Anti-fluoride lobby can’t get its teeth into the truth

Although sensational and scary, false claims that rubbish healthier water are dangerous


Any opinions on this issue? Can't say it ever bothered me at all but some seem to have a problem with on various grounds no matter how spurious.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #2
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Decent scientific evidence that the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Drawbacks that mainly affect the tiny % who have a sensitivity to fluoride.
Mind, science has got plenty wrong in the past.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #3
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Drawbacks that mainly affect the tiny % who have a sensitivity to fluoride.
Not being smart but don't they use toothpaste? Is that any different?
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Old November 12th, 2013, 05:38 PM   #4
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I thought this thread has been started by that whacko eye-of-tara. No doubt he'll reappear now and wax lyrical about conspiracies and cancer ffs
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Old November 12th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #5
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Anyone have any idea how much it costs to add it to the water?
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Anyone have any idea how much it costs to add it to the water?
€4.8 million per annum according to this article. I wonder how much it saves in terms of public health benefits though?
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Not being smart but don't they use toothpaste? Is that any different?
The true (un)believers will use toothpaste without fluoride - there's many 'natural' toothpastes as alternatives.
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Meh toothpaste is toothpaste to me. I don't care whether it's "natural" or not. I'm sure i'm in the majority.

This seems like a cult.
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I've never quite understood this initiative. If public health policy is to be pursued by adding things to the water then why don't they put vitamins and minerals like iron and zinc as well which we also need in certain quantities every day? Furthermore, don't we get enough flouride from washing our teeth? Surely it should be people's responsibility to ensure oral hygiene and dental health by washing their teeth at least once a day. It would also save money if council workers didn't have to purchase and add the flouride every day at water treatment plants.

Like with the one and two cent coins, I'd like us to conduct a trial in which a region of the country is given fluoride-free water to see if there are any benefits.
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I thought this thread has been started by that whacko eye-of-tara. No doubt he'll reappear now and wax lyrical about conspiracies and cancer ffs
I actually thought eye-of-tara might have been female for some reason


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But if it's actually positive having fluoride there than I don't really see a problem.
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I've never quite understood this initiative. If public health policy is to be pursued by adding things to the water then why don't they put vitamins and minerals like iron and zinc as well which we also need in certain quantities every day? Furthermore, don't we get enough flouride from washing our teeth? Surely it should be people's responsibility to ensure oral hygiene and dental health by washing their teeth at least once a day. It would also save money if council workers didn't have to purchase and add the flouride every day at water treatment plants.

Like with the one and two cent coins, I'd like us to conduct a trial in which a region of the country is given fluoride-free water to see if there are any benefits.
Fluoride wasn't added to the water as a joke experiment to annoy conspiracy theorists.
Though that would be a worthwhile reason anyway.............
There's been a huge decrease in dental ailments and other health issues since it was added.
Very big savings in gov. healthcare spending. Means more money for other treatments.
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