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Old July 1st, 2015, 07:54 AM   #4301
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Who said Kansai T2 and Narita T3 were cheap to build?
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Per an Asashi article, Kansai Terminal 2 cost USD97 million (compared to RM108 million for LCCT) excluding the runway 2 island and surrounding tarmac. Narita remains nationalized, so it's quite hard to get numbers.
Though with a capacity of 4 mil passengers and taking into account the higher labour costs in Japan, it is still relatively cheap. But I wouldn't agree with this no-frills LCCT-like concept for klia2 though- which can handle 45 mil passengers. I am for things like aerobridges & the usual airport amenities. But, klia2's design can be more desirable lah!
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Old July 1st, 2015, 08:06 AM   #4302
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What does Kansai,HongKong and Changi have in common?Thats why its not cheap.
Developed countries with high wages?

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They're all on islands, and their respective countries have red as a prominent colour in their flags
Hahaha good one, and their flags are all have 2 colours only- red & white.
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Old July 1st, 2015, 10:49 AM   #4303
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Off course not forgetting they reclaimed the sea to build their airports.
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Old July 1st, 2015, 01:17 PM   #4304
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At least it solves the problem of land acquisition lor hahaha ???
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At least it solves the problem of land acquisition lor hahaha ???
In Malaysia you'd probably see Poseidon protesting as apparently our Land Laws grants ownership all the way down to the core
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Just by chance i found oil when korek korek at may kebun i wonder if that will change?I am sure Petronas and the gomen will leave me alone right?
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Technically Poseidon has no 'rights' here as he's not one of the recognised gods lor hahaha ???
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Technically Poseidon has no 'rights' here as he's not one of the recognised gods lor hahaha ???
Absolutely right!....err...I mean..haram..oops
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Just by chance i found oil when korek korek at may kebun i wonder if that will change?I am sure Petronas and the gomen will leave me alone right?
Gomen will most likely use the Land Acquisition Act to seize your land in the name of 'national development', even if you don't want to let go of it. But gomen must give you 'reasonable compensation' lah.

Gohmen doesn't use this act very frequently because it's unpopular. But I think they almost used it for the Pasar Seni MRT.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 07:14 AM   #4310
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KLIA2 is sinking, AirAsia CEO warns
Kuala Lumpur International Airport's new budget passenger terminal is sinking, with cracks appearing in the taxiway and water forming pools that planes must drive through.

The defects could cause flight delays, increase wear and tear on planes and pose potential safety risks, according to AirAsia Bhd., the new terminal's biggest user. Though take offs and landings aren't affected, the carrier has asked Malaysian authorities to fix the problems before passengers get hurt, Chief Executive Officer Aireen Omar said in an interview in Kuala Lumpur.

"The airport is still sinking," Aireen (photo) said. The operator, Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd., "has done some partial resurfacing, but what the airport actually needs is a permanent solution."

Complaints about the new terminal cap a bad run for Malaysia's aviation industry, after two deadly accidents for the national carrier -- the unsolved disappearance of Flight MH370 in March 2014 and the shooting down of another plane over Ukraine last July.

Construction expenses for klia2, as the new terminal is known, ballooned from an initial estimate of about 1.7 billion ringgit ($446 million) to 4 billion ringgit.

"Since MH370, a lot of shortcomings have been found in Malaysia's aviation infrastructure", said Shukor Yusof, founder of Singapore-based consultancy Endau Analytics. "The authorities haven't done enough to address these shortcomings, not enough to put them on par with the First World."

Ponding

The Transport Ministry has set up an independent audit committee, which will submit a report on ponding issues "in due course," the ministry told Bloomberg. Malaysia Airports, which has used its own funds to rectify the situation, "will be responsible for the findings and proposed solutions," the ministry said in an e-mail.

AirAsia initially refused to move when klia2 opened in May 2014, citing concerns over flight operations and security. The carrier gave in after the government said it would stop immigration and customs services at the old budget terminal.

The AirAsia group of airlines flew 15.2 million passengers through klia2 in its first year of operation, accounting for 87 percent of the terminal's traffic, according to Malaysia Airports data. Tiger Airways Holdings Ltd., Cebu Air Inc. and Malindo Air declined to comment on their experience at the new terminal. An official from Lion Mentari Airlines PT didn't respond to requests for feedback.

Waterlogged Tarmac

"If you go to the airport you can see ponding with your very own eyes," said Mohshin Aziz, an analyst at Malayan Banking Bhd. in Kuala Lumpur. Still, he noted, "it's more of an irritation rather than a safety hazard."

Last year, local media photographed Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai and airport officials walking through the terminal's waterlogged tarmac during an inspection.

Construction of klia2 started in 2009 after the growth of low-cost travel, particularly by Malaysia-based AirAsia, pushed passenger traffic beyond the existing budget terminal’s capacity.

At 257,000 square meters, klia2 can handle 45 million passengers, with the potential to expand.

Most full-service carriers, including Malaysia Airlines, use the main KLIA terminal, which began operations in 1998 about 50 kilometers (30 miles) from Kuala Lumpur after the government relocated the capital’s main airport from suburban Subang.

Malaysia Airports said the depressions and ponding at klia2 were caused by differential soil settlement in the apron and taxiway, where some of the structure is built on piling and some stands on normal ground.

The settling "has been anticipated from the start of construction," Malaysia Airports said in an e-mailed response to questions. Stakeholders such as AirAsia are updated weekly on the progress of the maintenance and are "constantly engaged on operational issues."

The airport is addressing the issue by patching and resurfacing problem areas and injecting polyurethane under the ground. A concrete slab to be completed by next April will provide a more permanent solution, Malaysia Airports said.

Klia2 isn't the only Asian airfield to face difficulties getting off the ground.

Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi airport, which opened in 2006 atop a reclaimed swamp, suffered from cracks at taxiways and runways and faulty baggage-scanning machines. Airports of Thailand Pcl was forced to close some taxiways for repair and reopen the old airport to alleviate congestion.

The company's president quit amid probes of the construction flaws, citing health reasons.

In Japan, the government had to reinforce landfill under Osaka's Kansai International Airport after it was found to be sinking. Opened in 1994, the facility took almost eight years and 1.43 trillion yen ($12 billion) to build on a manmade island.

"It's about time aggressive steps are taken to improve standards in Asia," said Mark D. Martin, chief executive officer of Dubai-based aviation consulting firm Martin Consulting. It's bad for the region "that we have to see such incidents ‹Í20events that negatively affect the safe operation of an aircraft or airport."

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Have a friend who was involved in the KLIA2 construction. This is his response. KLIA2 had two option to solve the ground settlement issue.

1.Dig up the soil and strengthen it which will take years and cost more.
2.Conduct continuous overlay and repave until the soil settlement stops.

Option 2 was taken.
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