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Old March 21st, 2016, 08:28 AM   #61
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Palakkad pass and kollam rail lines was built by British. It would have been difficult for GOI to cut through western ghats if it was not built.
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Old March 27th, 2016, 08:07 AM   #64
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http://www.madhyamam.com/local-news/.../mar/21/185382

നഞ്ചന്കോട്–വയനാട്–നിലമ്പൂര് റെയില്വേ:മുന്നോട്ടുതന്നെയെന്ന് ആക്ഷന് കമ്മിറ്റി

സുല്ത്താന് ബത്തേരി: നഞ്ചന്കോട്-വയനാട്-നിലമ്പൂര് റെയില്വേ പാത നിര്മാണവുമായി ബന്ധപ്പെട്ട ഫൈനല് സര്*വേ നടപടികള് ഡി.എം.ആര്.സിയെ തന്നെ ഏല്പിക്കാനുള്ള ശ്രമങ്ങളുമായി തങ്ങള് മുന്നോട്ടുതന്നെ പോകുകയാണെന്ന് റെയില് വേ ആക്ഷന് കമ്മിറ്റി. തിരുവനന്തപുരത്ത് മുഖ്യമന്ത്രി ഉമ്മന് ചാണ്ടിയുമായി ചര്ച്ച നടത്തിയ ശേഷം പ്രതികരിക്കുകയായിരുന്നു ഭാരവാഹികള്.
തെരഞ്ഞെടുപ്പ് പ്രഖ്യാപനത്തിന് തൊട്ടുമുമ്പു നടന്ന കാബിനറ്റ് യോഗത്തില് പദ്ധതിയുടെ ഫയല് പരിഗണിക്കാന് കഴിയാതിരുന്ന പശ്ചാത്തലത്തിലാണ് ഭാരവാഹികള് മുഖ്യമന്ത്രിയെ കണ്ടത്. പദ്ധതി ഡോ. ഇ. ശ്രീധരനെ ഏല്പിക്കുന്നതില് വകുപ്പുമന്ത്രി ആര്യാടനുള്ള താല്പര്യക്കുറവാണ് ഫയല് എത്താതിരുന്നതിന് പിന്നിലെന്ന് ആരോപണമുയര്ന്നിരുന്നു. നിലമ്പൂരിലെ റെയില് വേ ആക്ഷന് കമ്മിറ്റിയുടെ ഭാരവാഹിയായ ആര്യാടന് ഷൗക്കത്തിനെതിരെയും ആരോപണമുയര്ന്നിരുന്നു. മാര്ച്ച് അഞ്ചിന് ഡോ. ഇ. ശ്രീധരന് നിലമ്പൂരിലത്തൊന് തീരുമാനിച്ചിരുന്നതാണെന്നും എന്നാല്, നാലിന് അപ്രതീക്ഷിതമായുണ്ടായ തെരഞ്ഞെടുപ്പ് പ്രഖ്യാപനംമൂലമാണ് ചര്ച്ച നടക്കാതെ പോയതെന്നും ആര്യാടന് ഷൗക്കത്ത് പ്രതികരിച്ചു. നഞ്ചന്കോട്-നിലമ്പൂര് പാതക്ക് കേന്ദ്രസര്ക്കാര് അനുമതിനല്കിയെങ്കിലും ഫണ്ട് വകയിരുത്തിയിട്ടില്ല. സംസ്ഥാന സര്ക്കാര് ബജറ്റിലുള്പ്പെടുത്തിയ അഞ്ചുകോടി ചെലവഴിച്ച് സര് വേ നടപടികള് ആരംഭിക്കാനാവുമെങ്കിലും തെരഞ്ഞെടുപ്പ് പ്രഖ്യാപിച്ച സാഹചര്യത്തില് നടപടിക്രമങ്ങള് തടസ്സമാകും. കാബിനറ്റ് തീരുമാനമുണ്ടാവാതിരുന്നത് നിയമപരമായ സാങ്കേതിക തടസ്സംമൂലം മാത്രമാണെന്നും മറിച്ചുള്ള ആരോപണങ്ങളില് കഴമ്പില്ളെന്നും ആര്യാടന് ഷൗക്കത്ത് പറഞ്ഞു.
ഡോ. ഇ. ശ്രീധരനിലൂടെ ഡി.എം.ആര്.സി മുഖേന തന്നെ സര്വേ നടപടികള് പൂര്ത്തീകരിക്കും. കമ്പനി (എസ്.പി.വി) രൂപവത്കരണത്തില് തടസ്സമാവില്ളെന്നും ഷൗക്കത്ത് വ്യക്തമാക്കി.

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Old April 17th, 2016, 12:21 AM   #65
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Wild life conservation cannot happen by limiting the progress people living around. NGOs members living in big metros getting money from WWF and such dont care for peoples rights. World wife the winning wild life efforts are the one where local population also participates. There are roads and railways criss crossing many national parks in every country. How do they do it? There are designs or railways and raods which makes wild life crossing easy. Right of movement is a basic right for both humans and animals. Therefore one cannot happen on others expense.
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Old April 17th, 2016, 12:32 PM   #66
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This line will never get sanctions as it is going through dense forests.And the ecenomic benefit is relatively very less. and it need a huge amount to build.
India is facing one of the hardest environmental crisis in the world. things are going to worse in coming years. we are dramatically losing ground water levels. drougts has become common. And we are complaining about hot weather etc (Chennai flood was a manmade disaster ) - Please dont blame environmentalists on everything. Kerala need many other lines than this. Edappally Guruvayoor line is one among them.
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Old April 17th, 2016, 05:29 PM   #67
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With a fraction of the cost and effort it takes to build a new line through ghats, the existing mainline can be upgraded to run trains at 150+ kmph, with increased capacity. It will then be possible to reach Bangalore and even Mysore in 4-5 hours from Kochi or Kozhikode.
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Old April 18th, 2016, 11:13 AM   #68
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Wayanad Railway (Nilambur-Sulthan Bathery-Nanjangud Railway)

Here are some random thoughts from me:

1. We need serious thoughts on environmental impacts for all new projects. This is not limited to Wayanad. Like the reference to "man made" Chennai flood, we need to understand the environment protection applies everywhere, including the mega cities. What we see usually is people going no-no for all developments in Wayanad while the last remaining water body in other parts of the country are filled out to build skyscrapers.

2. I am disturbed by the man-animal conflicts happening in Gudalur at the moment. 4 people were killed by elephants in last 15 days. And this is not an isolated event- many people have been killed by tigers and elephants in the last 1 year. If the Nilambur - Nanjngud railway line is built through Gudalur as proposed then these issues will worsen further.

3. This year we have seen elephants reaching Sulthan Bathery town. A new railway line cutting through the forest will further disturb the situation.

4. I agree with the comment about improving existing rail lines so as to reduce travel times between Kochi/Kozhikode- Bangalore. The Nilambur- Nanjngud line will not benefit Kozhikode anyway. And there is not much benefit for Kochi either. Looks like mentioning Kochi - Bangalore was a tactic to grab attention and support of South Kerala people and politicians.

5. The original objective behind the move was to connect Wayanad to the railway map. There has to be scientific study on how best to achieve it. May be we will have to find a new route from Kerala railway line to Wayanad and end the line in Wayanad (instead of crossing the forests to Karnataka)??

6. If a railway line is not possible without an environmental disaster then we have to probe what else is a viable solution- may be the feeder airport that the Central Government is ready to build??

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Karnataka worried over Kerala's plan for rail line through Bandipur

Karnataka Forest Department is vehemently opposing the survey for Nilambur - Nanjangud railway line through Bandipur.

Below is the news article from Deccan Herald:

Karnataka worried over Kerala's plan for rail line through Bandipur

Bosky Khanna Bengaluru, July 08, 2016, DHNS

Says 10.5 km of prime tiger reserve will be lost for the project


After strongly resisting the earlier move by the Kerala government to allow night traffic in Bandipur National Park, the Karnataka forest department has now said the proposed rail line cutting through the Bandipur Tiger Reserve (BTR) can't be permitted.

The Kerala government’s request to the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation Limted (DMRCL) to undertake a survey for the 236- km railway line passing through Nanjangud- Sultan Batheri- Nilambur, has not gone well with the Karnataka’s forest department.

After strongly resisting the earlier move by the Kerala government to allow night traffic in Bandipur National Park, the Karnataka forest department has now said the proposed rail line cutting through the Bandipur Tiger Reserve (BTR) can’t be permitted.

The Kerala government has claimed that the rail line would boost tourism in the region, especially pilgrimage as it will link Wayanad,Nilgiris, Guruvayur and Sabarimala with Mysuru and Bengaluru. But, the Karnataka forest department is in no mood to buy this claim as 10.5 km of prime BTR will be lost to the project.

Railway Minister Suresh Prabhu in the last railway budget had listed the 236- km railway line. The Kerala government has now placed it on priority list to implement it under joint venture with railways. Concerned over this, the Karnataka Forest department is leaving no stone unturned to ensure that the project is dropped. An official from BTR said that so far no survey has been permitted in the forest patch. A month ago, railway officials had visited the place.

Principal Chief Conservator of Forests (Wildlife) B J Hosmath said that during their last meeting with the officials of Ministry of Environment and Forest in Delhi in May, Karnataka had made it clear that the project will not be permitted. “No formal communication has reached us either from the railways or the Kerala government,” he said.

Environmentalists too are against the project. Praveen Bhargav, Trustee Wildlife First said: “Rail connectivity between north Kerala to Mangaluru, Mysuru and to Bangaluru has already been established by fragmenting pristine forests in the Western Ghats. This line is completely under-utilized and all that is required is more fast trains on this section. Therefore, the demand for yet another rail link through Bandipur which has some of the highest densities of both tigers and elephants must be rejected. The railway minister, who headed the environment ministry in the past, is sensitive to the interests of wildlife and must nip this proposal in the bud”.
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What a surprising turn of events in 2016 for this Nilambur - Nanjangud railway!

The year 2016 started extremely positive for this proposed railway line with the then UDF government backing this project and they agreed to include this in the JV with Railways. Later in Feb 2016, quite surprisingly, this line was included in the Railway Budget. However, what was even more surprising was the slow 'back out' of the LDF government from this project, later in the year.

Current status is that the state government is not releasing any money to DMRC for the final location survey of Nilambur - Nanjangud railway line however they have entrusted the same DMRC to conduct feasibility study for Thalassery - Mysore railway line.

Mr E Sreedharan had visited Mananthavady last month in connection with the feasibility study of Thalassery - Mysore line and had also traveled to Mysore through the Bavali - HD Kote road.

At this juncture, I would leave it to the best judgement of the metro man Mr Sreedharan to propose the best option - there are three main options now:
  1. Thalassery - Mysore via Coorg
  2. Thalassery - Mysore via Mananthavady
  3. Nilambur - Nanjangud via Nilgiris and Sulthan Bathery

Personally I believe Thalassery line will score much higher compared to Nilambur, as that line will benefit North Kerala much more than Nilambur line. Thalassery line is branching off of the main rail route of Kerala (Thiruvananthapuram - Mangalore) thereby benefiting Kozhikode and Kannur districts as well. Another advantage to Thalassery line is that it will be a direct link from Kerala to Karnataka without passing through Tamil Nadu.



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What a surprising turn of events in 2016 for this Nilambur - Nanjangud railway!

Another advantage to Thalassery line is that it will be a direct link from Kerala to Karnataka without passing through Tamil Nadu.



Source: Mathrubhumi, 2017-01-01
The good will our respected CM has attained with the push for TULU mahakavi monument can be capitalised. The resort owners in Coorg will also requie to support the talassery line. The south kerala based tourist lobby will not take much interest in it. Perhaps our business houses which benefit from Kannur airport could initiate lobbying to get support from Resort Lobby of Coorg.
Nilambur line passing through Tamilnadu is next to impossible. There are several lines in TN and the state is not prepared to JV with railways.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 10:38 AM   #72
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What a surprising turn of events in 2016 for this Nilambur - Nanjangud railway!

The year 2016 started extremely positive for this proposed railway line with the then UDF government backing this project and they agreed to include this in the JV with Railways. Later in Feb 2016, quite surprisingly, this line was included in the Railway Budget. However, what was even more surprising was the slow 'back out' of the LDF government from this project, later in the year.

Current status is that the state government is not releasing any money to DMRC for the final location survey of Nilambur - Nanjangud railway line however they have entrusted the same DMRC to conduct feasibility study for Thalassery - Mysore railway line.

Mr E Sreedharan had visited Mananthavady last month in connection with the feasibility study of Thalassery - Mysore line and had also traveled to Mysore through the Bavali - HD Kote road.

At this juncture, I would leave it to the best judgement of the metro man Mr Sreedharan to propose the best option - there are three main options now:
  1. Thalassery - Mysore via Coorg
  2. Thalassery - Mysore via Mananthavady
  3. Nilambur - Nanjangud via Nilgiris and Sulthan Bathery

Personally I believe Thalassery line will score much higher compared to Nilambur, as that line will benefit North Kerala much more than Nilambur line. Thalassery line is branching off of the main rail route of Kerala (Thiruvananthapuram - Mangalore) thereby benefiting Kozhikode and Kannur districts as well. Another advantage to Thalassery line is that it will be a direct link from Kerala to Karnataka without passing through Tamil Nadu.



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Nilambur-Nanjangud line also can be construct avoiding TN (Gudalur)
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 01:54 PM   #73
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Palakkad pass and kollam rail lines was built by British. It would have been difficult for GOI to cut through western ghats if it was not built.

Fortunately we have got much more credible example before us built by our own GOI under our "Metro man "--KONKAN RAILWAYS


Konkan railway penetrate several times through Western ghats . More over covering a distance which is 5 times more than the entire distance covered by the examples given by you.
Despite tough terrain , hilly slopes , wet soil & monsoon prone climate ; Indian Railway successfully commissioned Konkan railway which is going to celebrate its 20th Anniversary next year thereby reducing the distance to Mumbai from major portion of south India. Even British indirectly praised it through airing a program in BBC.

My dear at-least in future stop degrading anything that is of Indian made.
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The good will our respected CM has attained with the push for TULU mahakavi monument can be capitalised. The resort owners in Coorg will also requie to support the talassery line. The south kerala based tourist lobby will not take much interest in it. Perhaps our business houses which benefit from Kannur airport could initiate lobbying to get support from Resort Lobby of Coorg.
Nilambur line passing through Tamilnadu is next to impossible. There are several lines in TN and the state is not prepared to JV with railways.
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I dont think there is a South kerala lobby working inside kerala . Then how would the development of kerala was more concentrated in northern patch of kerala in last 15 years.. I have traveled length & breadth of kerala & can easily say that the northern part of kerala is equal to southern part in all spheres of development .

People like us always stand in support of a new line which connects Bengaluru / Mysore to kerala to avoid organized theft under bus lobby .


Kannur / telicherry with Virajpet/,mysore & bengaluru should have been a priority in 80s' itself in my observation.
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Looks like Sasiyettan (Mr. CK Saseendran, Kalpetta MLA) has revived the Wayanad railway project.

A meeting was held between Mr E Sreedharan and MLAs, MP and District Administration yesterday at Kalpetta Civil Station.

According to this, the revised length of the railway line is 162.5 km of which 101.9 km is in Kerala and 60.6 km in Karnataka. This means they are doing direct link between Nilambur and Wayanad without going through Tamilnadu.

CK Saseendran has mentioned that funds will be released to DMRC for the final location survey.

Though Mr Sreedharan has mentioned there is no environment clearance required for railway lines, it is unclear how they will overcome the objections on the line going (underground) through the Bandipur National Park.



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Dr E Sreedharan is confident about constructing the Nilambur - Nanjangud rail line without environmental issues and impact to wildlife.



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Though there was an impression that the government is backing out from the Nilambur - Nanjangud railway project, looks like a lot was happening in the background:

- DMRC has already completed the alignment survey, traffic survey and satellite survey
- A new topographical survey has brought down the distance to 162.5 km (from original 236 km) and the Railway Board has already approved the new alignment
- Dr E Sreedharan's statement is very encouraging: "This is a promising and profitable project once it materialises". He also said he had great expectations on the project.

The above makes me believe this project is going to be materialised. As with any mega project, there will be many hurdles and delays but all of that can be overcome if a visionary like Dr Sreedharan is supporting the project. I think the main selling point is the new line is expected to reduce travel time between Mysuru - Coimbatore to 5 hours and Bangalore - Kochi to 7 hours.

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Wayanad Railway (Nilambur-Sulthan Bathery-Nanjangud Railway)

State government has transferred Rs. 2Cr to DMRC for the location survey and other preliminary works of Nilambur - Nanjngud rail line. This puts to rest all the uncertainties and speculations about the LDF government's view of this project.



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It would be great if this project realizes... Circling through TN to reach Bangalore is such a head ache.....
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