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Old May 17th, 2014, 12:25 PM   #101
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Old May 17th, 2014, 01:35 PM   #102
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Just tried with available data... (Census 2001). Looks good. The last unnamed is Payyoli Panchayath. (Just for a horror.... Nothing serious..)
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Old May 17th, 2014, 01:36 PM   #103
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Great work Aslesh!

However I would prefer:

1. Chelora in Kannur Corporation instead of Kadambur.
2. In Alappuzha Corporation, Mannancherry and Ambalapuzha North should be there
3. In Kottayam Corporation, Thiruvarpu and eastern areas of Aymanam and Arpookkara should be there.
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Old May 17th, 2014, 01:40 PM   #104
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Kozhencherry Panchayat passed a resolution to upgrade it as a municipality by including Thottappuzhassery and Mallappuzhassery panchayats.

If everything goes fine, Kozhencherry will also upgraded as Municipality along with Pandalam.

UDF, LDF, and BJP members of the panchayat supported the motion unanimously.

Will Ranni and Konni follow the suit?
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Old May 17th, 2014, 02:08 PM   #105
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Just tried with available data... (Census 2001). Looks good. The last unnamed is Payyoli Panchayath. (Just for a horror.... Nothing serious..)
You should get 3 lakhs population. Try adding more panchayats.


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Great work Aslesh!

However I would prefer:

1. Chelora in Kannur Corporation instead of Kadambur.
2. In Alappuzha Corporation, Mannancherry and Ambalapuzha North should be there
3. In Kottayam Corporation, Thiruvarpu and eastern areas of Aymanam and Arpookkara should be there.
I tried to get maximum population density with just enough panchayats for 3 lakhs population.
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Old May 17th, 2014, 02:27 PM   #106
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Hi Aslesh,

Could you please give the link from where you get the 2011 census population of Kerala panchayaths?

Please provide a link where I can find the population of panchaths in Kollam.

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2011 Population of panchayats are not available. Population of revenue villages are available at http://censusindia.gov.in/ website.
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Old May 17th, 2014, 03:10 PM   #108
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2011 Population of panchayats are not available. Population of revenue villages are available at http://censusindia.gov.in/ website.
Aslesh,

Can you provide the full link for the popn of revenue villages as per 2011 census
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Old May 17th, 2014, 03:19 PM   #109
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There is no full list available. You have to search and find http://www.censusindia.gov.in/pca/Searchdata.aspx or here http://www.censusindia.gov.in/pca/final_pca.aspx
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Old May 17th, 2014, 06:26 PM   #110
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You should get 3 lakhs population. Try adding more panchayats.
Considering the fact that the population shown here is of 2001 Census, I feel this alone will fill the criteria of 3 Lakh +
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Old May 18th, 2014, 12:31 AM   #111
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Look at the image of Malappuram. And now compare it with our existing corporations and other wanna be corporations like Kannur, Kottayam etc. You will get the picture that Malappuram is the least deserved and they are only getting priority on Politics. I am not against a Corporation there. But it should not be ahead of Kottayam and Kannur (and some times not upon Palakkad and Alappuzha too).

UA Population of our state is a myth as it is not just related to a single city but with an entire district. If Vadakara, Thalassery ect. were Districts, they could also easily get a Million plus population for their respective UAs.
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Old May 18th, 2014, 09:03 AM   #112
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Look at the image of Malappuram. And now compare it with our existing corporations and other wanna be corporations like Kannur, Kottayam etc. You will get the picture that Malappuram is the least deserved and they are only getting priority on Politics.I am not against a Corporation there. But it should not be ahead of Kottayam and Kannur.
Oh come on, we all know Kannur and Kottayam is way ahead of Malappuram. Any development happened in Malappuram is during last five years or so, to be specific, anything worth mentioning happened only in last two years. And what do you expect Malappuram to become? Texas?
And its damn true that Malappuram is getting this priority coz of league. No one said otherwise, so no applause for your revelation.
That league has been ruling us since decade. So many years have passed without Malappuram anywhere in the list for anything. Sometimes back Malappuram was considered a backward district. If we have come out of that, its not coz of any government or political support that's specifically done for malappuram. And we have never seen you people crying for Malappuram. We have never seen calicut people talking about Malappuram with dignity couple years back (we know how all you guys make fun of us). Where were your equality and understanding then? Dont act too much simiplicity, you hate Muslim league giving more consideration for Malappuram, its home over Calicut which is the apparent capital of Malabar. Past few years, Calicut has not seen much of change. I perfectly understand that. And about ML giving priority to Malappuram a place which has been and is still sending them to Parliament and Niyamasabha with such a higher margin deserve more from them if not from the Government as such. Muslim league is liable to Malappuram and answerable. So now you all tolerate muslim league jus like we did for a long time.


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UA Population of our state is a myth as it is not just related to a single city but with an entire district. If Vadakara, Thalassery ect. were Districts, they could also easily get a Million plus population for their respective UAs.
I don't want to talk more on UA here as it is not going to make any difference. I dont knw about other places, but about Malappuram, those who knows the district would understand why its an 'Urban' Agglomeration. FYI, Agglomeration has a synonym called collection.
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Old May 18th, 2014, 09:32 AM   #113
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Why are munipalities around kochi not merged with the corperation...
I feel the potential 4th metro is missing a lot in terms of funds and other benifits because of this.

Being a trivandrumite, here, i can see many villages added to the corperation which dont deserve that status....whereas in kochi all the suburbs are in par with the corperation area.

Wadakanchery-kechery area in my opinion deserves a muncipality grade.
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Old May 18th, 2014, 10:01 AM   #114
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Why are munipalities around kochi not merged with the corperation...
I feel the potential 4th metro is missing a lot in terms of funds and other benifits because of this.

Being a trivandrumite, here, i can see many villages added to the corperation which dont deserve that status....whereas in kochi all the suburbs are in par with the corperation area.

Wadakanchery-kechery area in my opinion deserves a muncipality grade.
I already presented Kochi's case to Urban Affairs Minister Manjalamkuzhi Ali and Kochi MLA Dominic Presentation. Ali informed me that there is a proposal for Greater Kochi Municipal Corporation, comprises Kochi corporation, Maradu, Thripunithura, Thrikkakara, Kalamassery, Eloor, North Paravur, Aluva and 24 Suburban Panchayats (Varappuzha, Cheranallur, Kadamakudy, Mulavukavu, Cheriyakadavu area of Chellanam Panchayat, Kumbalam, Udayamperoor, Chottanikkara, Ezhikkara, Kottuvally, Chittatukara, Chendamangalam, Vadakkekara, Kadungalloor, Alangad, Karumaloor, Kunnukara, Edathala, keezhmad, Choornikkara, Sreemoolanagaram, Kanjoor, Nedumbassery and Chengamanadu). If this proposal happens, it will be a great change in Kochi.

However Dominic Presentation told me that some stupid and idiotic local peoples in these suburban municipalities and panchayats are opposing Greater Kochi move.
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Oh come on, we all know Kannur and Kottayam is way ahead of Malappuram. Any development happened in Malappuram is during last five years or so, to be specific, anything worth mentioning happened only in last two years. And what do you expect Malappuram to become? Texas?
And its damn true that Malappuram is getting this priority coz of league. No one said otherwise, so no applause for your revelation.
That league has been ruling us since decade. So many years have passed without Malappuram anywhere in the list for anything. Sometimes back Malappuram was considered a backward district. If we have come out of that, its not coz of any government or political support that's specifically done for malappuram. And we have never seen you people crying for Malappuram. We have never seen calicut people talking about Malappuram with dignity couple years back (we know how all you guys make fun of us). Where were your equality and understanding then? Dont act too much simiplicity, you hate Muslim league giving more consideration for Malappuram, its home over Calicut which is the apparent capital of Malabar. Past few years, Calicut has not seen much of change. I perfectly understand that. And about ML giving priority to Malappuram a place which has been and is still sending them to Parliament and Niyamasabha with such a higher margin deserve more from them if not from the Government as such. Muslim league is liable to Malappuram and answerable. So now you all tolerate muslim league jus like we did for a long time.


I don't want to talk more on UA here as it is not going to make any difference. I dont knw about other places, but about Malappuram, those who knows the district would understand why its an 'Urban' Agglomeration. FYI, Agglomeration has a synonym called collection.
Don't be emotional. I am not a representative of entire Calicut to take your blame how people treated Malappuram. People treat every other place as it is a wrong place whenever they want . and same people will say positive about the same place in some other occasions. People from Calicut city call the eastern part of the district as backward and the same people will be proud of the beautiful waterfalls and hills of the same region.

I don't have any problem with Malappuram or its people or the city getting a corporation status. My I only point is avoiding Kannur, Kottayam,Palakkad and Alappuzha and selecting only Malappuram is a a wrong step and I can say a crime against the people of those towns.
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Well agree I was little emotional. Coming to the topic, everyone here are bewildered not hearing anything about Kannur or Kottayam regarding the upgradation. But you dont need to compare Malappuram with any other place indorder to justifiy its demand. Lets keep everything seperate. Kottayam and Kannur should become corporations. And if its all political decision that makes difference in these things, am sure after this government falls, we would also not get it done. May be the case same with Kottayam. Kannur is fortunate that it would get consideration irrespective of politics if am right.

And for Malappuram corporation, we are going little early towards it, true. why pour in money only after the roads are filled with vehicles and roadsides are filled with buildings when we can do it early? so that better roads can be built in planned manner, lands can be acquired without dismantling concrete structures altogether. Lets try that way. Lets build a city and necessary infrastructures simultaneously. Its going to be lots of hurdles in front of Malappuram to corporation. Give us your support guys.
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However Dominic Presentation told me that some stupid and idiotic local peoples in these suburban municipalities and panchayats are opposing Greater Kochi move.
That is true.

There are many reasons for the resistance

1. The Muncipal council in the neighbouring municipalities, such as Kalamassery, Thrikkakara, Maradu, Tripunithura etc would lose their positions and leverage. All these municipalities are cash rich, as maximum development of Kochi is taking place in these areas

2. No of counsellors would be reduced

3. Communal equation in position-allocation would be under strain. These days, the mayor of Kochi is the pocket burrough of the Latin catholic community. Thrikkakara and Kalamassery muncipalities usually have Muslim chairpersons, Maradu and Tripunithura municipalities have Hindu chairpersons etc. If the Corporation is expanded, then all these chairpersonships will go and there will be only one Mayor of Kochi to fight for

4. CPM would be against it as well. They have been traditionally strong in existing Corporation areas, but weak elsewhere, though this is now changing and they are getting weak everywhere. Last time, CPM tried to expand the Kochi Corporation by including only their strongholds, such as Udayamperoor, and the UDF shot in down.

5. The strong trading community would like smaller municipalities and panchayaths for lesser taxes / lesser restrictions

6. last but not the least, if the Corporation is expanded now, Chammany's position would become untenable. How else would he make his foreign jaunts?

Somehow, these factors seem to be very strong in Kochi and not other places, where expansion on Corporation / Municipalities have been relatively easy.
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That is true.

There are many reasons for the resistance

1. The Muncipal council in the neighbouring municipalities, such as Kalamassery, Thrikkakara, Maradu, Tripunithura etc would lose their positions and leverage. All these municipalities are cash rich, as maximum development of Kochi is taking place in these areas

2. No of counsellors would be reduced

3. Communal equation in position-allocation would be under strain. These days, the mayor of Kochi is the pocket burrough of the Latin catholic community. Thrikkakara and Kalamassery muncipalities usually have Muslim chairpersons, Maradu and Tripunithura municipalities have Hindu chairpersons etc. If the Corporation is expanded, then all these chairpersonships will go and there will be only one Mayor of Kochi to fight for

4. CPM would be against it as well. They have been traditionally strong in existing Corporation areas, but weak elsewhere, though this is now changing and they are getting weak everywhere. Last time, CPM tried to expand the Kochi Corporation by including only their strongholds, such as Udayamperoor, and the UDF shot in down.

5. The strong trading community would like smaller municipalities and panchayaths for lesser taxes / lesser restrictions

6. last but not the least, if the Corporation is expanded now, Chammany's position would become untenable. How else would he make his foreign jaunts?

Somehow, these factors seem to be very strong in Kochi and not other places, where expansion on Corporation / Municipalities have been relatively easy.
vu3nnn,

If there is any such local resistance , Govt should show some will power to ignore them and establish Greater Kochi Municipal Corporation. All big cities are doing this.
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