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Old September 13th, 2017, 05:02 PM   #9981
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What you are smoking dude?

You are just concluded just looking at their photos? Then you will say Tamils and Malayalis are same people. Just Like Malayali people and culture and language has close relation with Tamil these Rohingyans has close relation with Bengalis. And they got a maasive influx of Bengalis in to their land during British Raj, this revised their coltural link with Bengal. British brought Indian to Carebbian and Pacific islands aswell. does that mean they all need to be wiped off from there?

Why these people are called Rohingyasn?? it is because of their language

look at this wiki page I already posted before.


They are closely related to Bengalis. But they are a different group. They are living there in Rekhine province (Arakan in English) for centuries. Rekhine was an independant Kingdom invaded by Burmese kings in 18th century. then later ceded to British . It is their home for generations. Rekhine is politically part of Myanmar But ethnically and geographically it is more related to Bengal.
Rakhine State is geographically proximate to Chittagong Division in Bangladesh than rest of Myanmar.

However it is not at all ethnically or culturally related to Bangladesh/Bengal. Only Rohingyas are related to Bengalis. Rakhine People related to Bamar People.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 05:10 PM   #9982
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സ്വാമിമാരോടും മുസ്ല്യാക്കന്മാരോടും സംസാരിച്ചാൽ കിട്ടുന്ന അതെ ഉത്തരങ്ങൾ. ക്ലിയർ ആയി പറയണ്ട കാര്യങ്ങൾ ഒക്കെ വളഞ്ഞു മുക്ക് ആർക്കും മനസ്സിലാവാത്ത 'പിലോചപി' അടിച്ചു രക്ഷപ്പെടും. എല്ലാ മതങ്ങളും ഒന്ന് തനനെയാണ് എല്ലാം ദൈവത്തിലേക്കാണ് എന്നൊക്കെ മതങ്ങളെ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ചാണോ ഹിന്ദുമതം പറയുന്നത്? അത് ആരുടെ Di*k ആണ് വലുത് എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു അടിയുണ്ടാക്കിയപ്പോൾ ഏതോ വിവരമുള്ള ആൾ അടി നിർത്താൻ പറഞ്ഞതാവും. scientifically speaking, it is not possible. എല്ലാ വഴിയും ഒരിക്കലും ശരിയാവുകയില്ല. ആദിമ മനുഷ്യൻ ഓരോന്ന് കണ്ടു പേടിച്ചു അതിനെയൊക്കെ ആരാധിച്ചും പേടിച്ചും അതിനെ കുറിച്ച് മാത്രം ചിന്തിച്ചും പടച്ചുണ്ടാക്കിയ കഥകളിലും ചിന്തകളിലും വലുതായി ഒന്നും തന്നെ ഒരു മതത്തിലും ഇല്ല. ശാസ്ത്രം ഇത്ര പുരോഗമിച്ചിട്ടും ആകാശത്ത് ആരോ ഇരുന്നു നമ്മളെ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുന്നു എന്നൊക്കെ മണ്ടത്തരം വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നവരെ നമിക്കണം.

There are hundrededs of millions of religion around the world, some are very small and some are very big. some are related some are in conflict
Read this story abut religion this is how sheeps called religious people evolved.
Now I got the answer I wanted. No more debates.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 05:13 PM   #9983
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History is not written in Sanksrit old man. You dont need to learn Arabic to study about Islamic History. You will get many pier reviewd research papers on that.
And If you think Islamic History can be only learned from Quran then you will end up in a biased single version of historic events.

same with Sanksrit and Vedas. dont take it as final conclusion of Histoiry. take it as tools to study a much wider canvas. If you are not reasearching on it, you dont need to learn sanskrit. But you can read research papers. But If you think you know everything just because you know sanksrit then you are wrong. A 'veda' cannot be considered as History until it is proven as it.
Who was speaking about history in the above post of mine? You wrote Hinduism and Buddhism are conflicting ideologies and I wrote in reply that I can quote two stanzas from Bhagavd Geeta to prove it is not. My challenge is not yet accepted by you. Is it my fault Geeta is written in Sanskrit and Quran is written in Arabic?
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Old September 13th, 2017, 05:53 PM   #9984
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Now I got the answer I wanted. No more debates.
Exactly. This Q they will not answer bcos Secularism is one way street. Hindus should accept every one but Islam is one way street i.e. only my way is right.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 06:53 PM   #9985
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Sikhs don't consider themselves Hindu, neither are Buddhists or Jains. This war they (RSS-Sanghparivar) wants to fight out also includes Buddhists and Sikhs as also the enemies. This Dharmic religions vs Abrahamic (which are made evil and are claimed to be cause for all the problems Hindus faces) is a tool RSS uses to enforce their cult above others.
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Golwalkar’s anti-other attitude was directed also against Buddhism. He calls Buddhism a religion of fanatics, enemies of the cultural values and nationalist traditions of India. They are anti-nationals who sided with the invaders. He says: “the Buddhist fanatics invited and helped the foreign aggressors who wore the mask of Buddhism. The Buddhist sect had turned a traitor to the mother society [Hindu society] and the mother religion [Hinduism]”1.
Buddhist influence had the baneful effect of effacing from the minds of the masses their tenacious adherence to their faith. It over individualised religion and the consequence was that the individual became more prominent than the society and the Nation2. For example, where the influence of Buddhism had disrupted the caste system (RSS Supports Caste System!), it fell an easy prey to the onslaught of Muslims1.
According to Golwalkar, Adi Sankara (8th century AD) was an incomparable philosopher and a unique organiser of Hindu religion. He fearlessly roamed on foot from one end of the country to the other, conquering people to the Hindu faith and rekindling the ebbing flame of ancient Hindu culture. His activities aroused a national consciousness and threw out the treacherous elements of Buddhism as a distinct sect2.
http://donboscoindia.com/english/res...no=1&secid=247
This is RSS's unofficial and real view about Buddhism.

Regarding disappearance of Buddhism: http://web.archive.org/web/200909281...inion/694.html

May be some essence of truth in the below claims from above page written by Naresh Kumar (Before assuming I wrote this! as I know a lot of Sanghis and Virat Vargeeyavaadi's have their kuru potti because of the views which they never ever heard from other sources as their world revolves around what shit is being injected through sakhas!)

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The Buddha's fight against Brahminism won him many enemies from among the Brahmins. They were not as greatly opposed to his philosophical teachings as they were to his message of universal brotherhood and equality for it directly challenged their hegemony and the scriptures that they had invented to legitimize this. To combat Buddhism and revive the tottering Brahminical hegemony, Brahminical revivalists resorted to a three-pronged strategy. Firstly, they launched a campaign of hatred and persecution against the Buddhists. Then, they appropriated many of the finer aspects of Buddhism into their own system so as to win over the "lower" caste Buddhist masses, but made sure that this selective appropriation did not in any way undermine Brahminical hegemony. The final stage in this project to wipeout Buddhism was to propound and propagate the myth that the Buddha was merely another (avatar) of the Hindu god Vishnu. Buddha was turned into just another of the countless deities of the Brahminical pantheon.
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Exactly. This Q they will not answer bcos Secularism is one way street. Hindus should accept every one but Islam is one way street i.e. only my way is right.
The problem with many Hindus is that they don't understand Abrahamic religions. They don't understand that the Monotheistic God worshipping concept prevents religious Muslim or Christian or Jew from worshipping pagan Gods. For Islam or Christianity, there way is the true way. But, that doesn't prevent the others from worshipping whatever they want. They aren't evil for the way they want to worship. Polytheism or Pantheism are not concepts that organized religions support. Many Hindus view that being true Muslim or Christian is by participating Ganpati Pooja or worshipping their Gods (a lot of these photos with Purdhanasheen Muslim ladies carrying their kids for Sobhayaatra etc etc). Secularism is above all these religious concepts. Open mindedness, English Education - This is something which India needs, not high religiousness.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:12 PM   #9987
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The problem with many Hindus is that they don't understand Abrahamic religions. They don't understand that the Monotheistic God worshipping concept prevents religious Muslim or Christian or Jew from worshipping pagan Gods. For Islam or Christianity, there way is the true way. But, that doesn't prevent the others from worshipping whatever they want. They aren't evil for the way they want to worship. Polytheism or Pantheism are not concepts that organized religions support. Many Hindus view that being true Muslim or Christian is by participating Ganpati Pooja or worshipping their Gods (a lot of these photos with Purdhanasheen Muslim ladies carrying their kids for Sobhayaatra etc etc). Secularism is above all these religious concepts. Open mindedness, English Education - This is something which India needs, not high religiousness.
Noted. You are educated and learned.
This approach when extremists, less learned/ exposed/taught this concept the wrong way, when they take this to next level is causing the terrorist attacks in the name of jihad. And I agree to what you say that good education is the only way to stop that rampant spread of such hatred in what is called jihad whether in Europe or America or Africa.
You would agree that Hindus are not causing the attacks on the se continents.


And dear brother most Hindus do not expect a xtisn or a Muslim to participate in any Hindu festival... Just let us live our faith the way we want without denigration is all that most Hindus would want
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Old September 14th, 2017, 06:17 AM   #9988
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The problem with many Hindus is that they don't understand Abrahamic religions. They don't understand that the Monotheistic God worshipping concept prevents religious Muslim or Christian or Jew from worshipping pagan Gods. For Islam or Christianity, there way is the true way. But, that doesn't prevent the others from worshipping whatever they want. They aren't evil for the way they want to worship. Polytheism or Pantheism are not concepts that organized religions support. Many Hindus view that being true Muslim or Christian is by participating Ganpati Pooja or worshipping their Gods (a lot of these photos with Purdhanasheen Muslim ladies carrying their kids for Sobhayaatra etc etc). Secularism is above all these religious concepts. Open mindedness, English Education - This is something which India needs, not high religiousness.
Absolute bullshit!! Being an open belief system, we wouldn't mind anyone to participate in our worship (some temples having the policy of denying entry to non hindus notwithstanding). In fact, we take it as a nice gesture from them, since the declared stance of the Abrahamic religions that Hinduism is wrong.

Everything is fine, as long as "you follow your way, I follow my way, and when we cross paths, let us be civil and yield to each other"
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Old September 14th, 2017, 07:14 AM   #9989
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The problem with many Hindus is that they don't understand Abrahamic religions. They don't understand that the Monotheistic God worshipping concept prevents religious Muslim or Christian or Jew from worshipping pagan Gods.
Same guy was spitting venom on Jews earlier. Now on Buddhists & Hindus . Tomorrow on Christians & USA . This is like I am perfect & rest is all false .
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Old September 14th, 2017, 07:43 AM   #9990
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There was brutal riots between Shaivism and Vaishnavism in History . And if you think a religions tolerance can be measured by number of the Minorities living in those region. Then Islam is tolerant as well.

Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iran etc. Has ancient Jews Christian populations living there for thousands of years. And Mugals were also can be considered as tolerant as despite their centuries old rule , India was still Hindu majority. can you explain that.

And I dont want to talk about recent vioalnce in Gujarat, on beef etc. If your religion was a peaceful one . It will never tolerate such atrocities.
Be specific. Which are the riots ? Dont spread some fake stories again !!! Judaism, Xtianity and Islam base is same. Sanatha Dharma is not a religion, formation of religion is the root cause of all problem. Before the starting of Kali Yuga, there were no religions...


Brahmanism is there everywhere.

Just read a recent news.
Economic Times
Which riots ? Be specific. Dont spread fake stories.

Brahmanism is still there. But it is not killing people like Islam does !! People who follow Santhana Dharma opposed it and it is under control whereas Islam followers are spreading hatred across the world !!!

Islam, Christianity and Judaism are common. In that Judaism is peaceful than Christianity , Christianity is peaceful than Islam

Islam == Judaism + Christianity + Nabi
Xtianity == Judaism + Christ
Judaism == Subset of Hinduism

Kali Yuga started around 5000 years back. Before Kali Yuga, there was no religion .. Formation of Abrahamic religions, mainly Islam is the reason behind all of of today's problems !!! I dont know whether any new abrahamic religion will come in place of Islam .. which might be more dangerous than Islam !!! Let us wait and see !!!

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That is why you cannot write off anybody. If you do it, it is at your own peril.

Take Rahul Baba for instance. Everybody has written him off. See his new avatar. Gone are his three day old stubble on his face. He is clean shaven. Wears a neat Kurta and jacket. Sits on a chair of California University in Berkley. Flaunts his beautiful dimples, smiles and answers all the questions magnanimously. Gone are his wild gesture. Gone are his school head master demeanor. Not even once did he roll up his sleeves.

And what he told can be broadly classified in to three categories. One cannot be more honest than this.

1. The decimation of Congress in India is only due to the arrogance (Dharshtyam for our Malayalam media) of Congress workers. Can there be a greater truth? He admits Congress is decimated in India. But there is catch here. The ban on arrogance is only for common workers. It does not prevent him from entering the stage of a CWC meeting. Roll his kurta sleeves up, pace up and down the stage holding both his hands on his back one clasping the other, take out a piece of paper from his kurta pocket, tear it down to a hundred pieces and deposit it in the nearest dust bin. The paper he tore was the copy of a resolution passed by his own government led by Manmohan Singh. He called the resolution rubbish. In a way he said Indian parliament is rubbish. All this to the horror of nearly a hundred Congress party workers, whose face turned pale. Every one forgot to applaud him, becaause they were stunned to disbelief. And the old man Manohohan had egg on his face. He was about to resign. This is the role model of not being arrogant.

2. Rahul admitted magnanimously that Modi, his bete noire, is by all standards a better communicator than him. Everybody knows it. Nobody understands what Rahul Baba states and everybody understands Modi. Except secularists, which is anyway a dwindling species in India. And most trust Modi too. That is why Modi wins election after election. What Rahul said is an absolute truth. Nobody can disagree with him.

3. Rahul also said that dynastic rule is a common place thing in India. Here also he is absolutely right. Take the examples of Stalin, Akhilesh, Laloos progeny, Pawar's daughter and even K. Muralidharan. Nobody can agree more. Here again he is exposing himself. He cannot atleast blame Modi on this count. Modi forgot this part of producing a heir apparent.

The only point Rahul failed in Berkley is in not mentioning secularism. To the chagrin of our dwindling secularists. I do not know whether Rahul thinks that secularism is not yet in danger or it could be also due the fact that he is having no mercy to secularists in India.
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He just said Thanks to everyone , അതിപ്പോൾ ആരായാലും പറയില്ലേ??But he said thanks to Sultan Qaboos just after he reachd Mascut. And he left for Vatican. not for India. സ്വന്തം രാജ്യം ആണെന്ന് വെച്ച് ചെയ്യാത്ത കാര്യത്തിന് നുണ പറയണോ ?? - It was aired in Oman TV long before Sushamas tweet. According to Oman government It was because of Vaticans effort. They said nothing about India. എട്ടുകാലി മമ്മൂഞ് ആവരുത് സംഘീ.

Here is a HT news


Here is a Vatican statement.
Now I realised one thing. Terrorist leader and his relgion teaches only Anti Nationalism. This religion is the problem of our country and the world. It comes in different forms, but Anti Nationalism and Terrorism is the crux of it.

If Mr TOM is dead today, Will you blame your country OMAN or INDIA ?

As per anti nationals, India government did not do anything !!
India government doesnt have good relations with Oman!!
India government did not put pressure through OMAN and ensured the safety and release of TOM !!
How TOM came to know that OMAN helped him ?

TOM is an agent of Vatican who is born in India. OMAN tried to take the advantage and anti nationals like you support OMAN. People like you should be send to Porkistan or other terrorist countries .. Biggest mistake India did is that we kept people like you in country ... Let the future generation kick you out from the country asap ... Hope it will materialize soon.

SAVE THE WORLD FROM KALI (TERRORIST RELIGION) !!! Dharma Yudham will ensure the END OF TERRORISM in this world !!!

Let all the world powers join together and save the world from KALI !!!
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To the horror of 'secularists' in this forum, yesterday Fr.Tom, telephoned Sushma Swaraj and thanked her and PM for their part in his release.

How can he do it? It may be the prime question that bothers our secularists here. This is enough to deprive their sleep. They were trying to prove that Indian Government has got no role in it (Of course quoting the 'Veda' of social media pages). These are the days when every 'secualrist' his worth desire to blame Modi for every thing on earth. From the murder of a Lankesh or Pansare or Kalburgi to every crime happening in India. It is only the magnanimity of secularists that they have stopped short of blaming Modi for the death of a dog on a public road.

It seems Fr.Tom is not at all a 'secularist' person.
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Ok. Noted. So we don't have any empirical evidence that Hinduism trumped Budhism by violence. Good.
FYI, Adi Sankara debated and converted people and not by violence or entitlement. They debated on questions of logic, phenomology,ontology etc.

Personally I feel by the time Sankara was in Budhism (the real essence) was already on decline due to worship of aldaivangal in Budhism,as lot of guys say here, and Sankara's structured reestablishment of Dharma in a structured way + recharge of temples just accelerated it.

Sutra Bhashya is an excellent read to understand Shankara's thoughts... It will let us glimpse his mind and how it charged millions then. I regard him as the Elon Musk of Hinduism.

Babri - Here's my take. More than 40k temples were destroyed by Mughal invasion in India.
If you look empirically there are no big Hindu temples in N India compared to what you see in S India. Why?
The Hindu Heartland across Ganges has no one big temple left.
Alberuni has written in graphic detail how Mahmud of Ghazni destroyed Mathura temple.

Quoting from his book "In the middle of the city there was a temple larger and finer than the rest, which can neither be described nor painted. The Sultan was of the opinion that 200 years would have been required to rebuilt it... He gave orders that all of it should be burnt and leveled with the ground"
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I did not see any Hindus ask to rebuilt all of it. AFAIK only 2 are being asked. Ayodhya and Mathura. Why- Hindus consider them to be birth place of 2 avatars of Vishnu.
Now for a minority community which wants a good relation with 80% majority , can't they offer that land and construct an even more magnificent mosque near by?

I personally feel it will generate such a large amount of goodwill that any Hindu fundamentalism, which some here reason as bigger threat than Nazism, will be crushed in this goodwill.
Isn't that bayichara most people want in this country?


Terrorists will not have any answer to these words !!!
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Old September 14th, 2017, 08:27 AM   #9995
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The problem with many Hindus is that they don't understand Abrahamic religions. They don't understand that the Monotheistic God worshipping concept prevents religious Muslim or Christian or Jew from worshipping pagan Gods. For Islam or Christianity, there way is the true way. But, that doesn't prevent the others from worshipping whatever they want. They aren't evil for the way they want to worship. Polytheism or Pantheism are not concepts that organized religions support. Many Hindus view that being true Muslim or Christian is by participating Ganpati Pooja or worshipping their Gods (a lot of these photos with Purdhanasheen Muslim ladies carrying their kids for Sobhayaatra etc etc). Secularism is above all these religious concepts. Open mindedness, English Education - This is something which India needs, not high religiousness.
Now I understand what an Abrahamic religion is. At least what it is to 'Keralite'.

One, there are different 'Gods'. A Pagan 'God', a Christian 'God', a Muslim 'God', a Sikh 'God', a Parsee 'God' etc. But sir, is not this very same thought of yours a polytheistic thought about God? Unless you believe only Muslim God is true and everything else are false. What a stunted brain! In the first place know if you do not know, there is nothing strange for Hindus in following 'monotheistic' thoughts. They also approve all other 'Gods' or many number of 'Gods' simply because they do not want to intrude up on the beliefs of anybody. Hindus do not have a uniform method of worship. they do not have any issue with the methods of worship of even Dalits and tribes, which may vary from their main stream thought. This openness is the sole reason why all sort of worship survived in India. Otherwise India would have become like all other parts of the world, which were conquered by kings adhering to Semitic religions, and left no other cults in the world to survive, where ever they conquered. The prime example is the native Americans. They were burnt at stakes if they refused to convert. And a whole race which owned American continent were annihilated with out a trace. Same is the case with Muslim conquerors. They converted the citizens of every country they conquered. With the sole exception of China and India. These countries were spared both by the Christian missionaries and Muslim zealots only due to the vastness of these countries and its unmanageable population. You can also say that some later Muslim and Christian conquerors were influenced by Indian thoughts. Like Akbar and Dara Shikove who translated Hindu 'Upanishads' to Persian. A new religion of 'Sufism' was born out of this exchange of thoughts.

In your post there is a line that you consider your religion to be the true religion. It implies all other are false. This statement is objectionable.

You need not worry much about Sikhs, Jain, Buddhist, Dalits etc. All of them pray at each others shrines. Hindus pray at Golden Mandir and other Gurdwaras and Sikhs pray in Hindu temples, for example Vaishno Devi. This is the case with all the Indian originated 'religions'. They do not have any problem praying at an Ajmere Dargha or a Velankanni Church. Dalits pray in all these places of worship. (I am sure now you will bring out the oppression of Dalits by high caste Hindus. It is not a part of belief system in India. It is a social issue, which Hindus themselves are working up on with great success. Leave it to Hindus. Only they can solve this problem. None else.)

So you better be worried about your fragile thoughts which is paranoiac to everything else other than yours.
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Terrorists will not have any answer to these words !!!
I don't believe all Muslims are terrorists.So I am engaging with an unknown gentleman here and not a terrorist.

Yes among the Muslims ,today are the many who are getting into these nefarious activities, which is of serious concern.

I feel they need to be engaged to make them understand that a. they are not under threat b. Hindus also don't like forcefull conversion or the 'victim mentality attitude' to get things done.

In such social forums when we engage in civil discussions rather than name calling we can share our aspersions and concerns in a dignified manner.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 09:59 AM   #9997
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Now I got the answer I wanted. No more debates.
Could you please elaborate?? What is that answer? please give it to me in a nutshell. I dont have time to read your one more boring essays , Which starts with 'My Ammayi is 1965 did that did this and because of that world is this etc ...... etc
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The problem with Hinduism is, they think that is the ancient religion and thus superior to all modern religions. And they even think ancient Indians were the centre of ancient wisdom. Where as Indus Valleys was just another great ancient civilisation like Mesopotamia, or Egypt. And we still donít have enough data to relate it with Modern Hinduism. Post Indus Valley Vedic India was also a great civilisation But only like that of Ancient Greek, Roman or Chinese civilisations.

My point is we were not unique. -

But As all other ancient civilisations were replaced with modern religions in almost all places. India remained largely same with its ancient culture. But it remained same for thousands of years. Frankly speaking it is an outdated religion.

India is backward and unclean mostly because of the Hindu rituals . caste-ism is playing a big role. We have a tendency to leave our places unclean just because we had scavenger people are there to clean it. Cleaning ourselves was considered a taboo. So as several rituals like dumping flowers ,idols, dead bodies in rivers and saying it is the rituals. Most of Indiaís water bodies are polluted because of these rituals. And if it was not British, Sati etc. might existed till today. Thousands of litres of Milk etc. are wasted on drainages just to bathe idols in country where kids dying out of malnutrition.

There is no Hope for this country. We remain filthy shit hole of the world. Because we believe that is our rituals, and we donít want to change. :bash
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Old September 14th, 2017, 10:31 AM   #9999
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The problem with Hinduism is, they think that is the ancient religion and thus superior to all modern religions. And they even think ancient Indians were the centre of ancient wisdom. Where as Indus Valleys was just another great ancient civilisation like Mesopotamia, or Egypt. And we still donít have enough data to relate it with Modern Hinduism. Post Indus Valley Vedic India was also a great civilisation But only like that of Ancient Greek, Roman or Chinese civilisations.

My point is we were not unique. -

But As all other ancient civilisations were replaced with modern religions in almost all places. India remained largely same with its ancient culture. But it remained same for thousands of years. Frankly speaking it is an outdated religion.

India is backward and unclean mostly because of the Hindu rituals . caste-ism is playing a big role. We have a tendency to leave our places unclean just because we had scavenger people are there to clean it. Cleaning ourselves was considered a taboo. So as several rituals like dumping flowers ,idols, dead bodies in rivers and saying it is the rituals. Most of Indiaís water bodies are polluted because of these rituals. And if it was not British, Sati etc. might existed till today. Thousands of litres of Milk etc. are wasted on drainages just to bathe idols in country where kids dying out of malnutrition.

There is no Hope for this country. We remain filthy shit hole of the world. Because we believe that is our rituals, and we donít want to change. :bash
I find comical lot of points you say. In the same note as your milk argument, you can argue that all well to do people donate their excess money and distribute among poor to solve world's poverty.
Or all iPhone buyers buy a good Redminote and use the excess money to buy phones for every one who don't have a phone.

your posts to me seems like selling one propaganda and not ready for a point based debate. So thanks but I go back to reader mode
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The problem with Hinduism is, they think that is the ancient religion and thus superior to all modern religions. And they even think ancient Indians were the centre of ancient wisdom. Where as Indus Valleys was just another great ancient civilisation like Mesopotamia, or Egypt. And we still don’t have enough data to relate it with Modern Hinduism. Post Indus Valley Vedic India was also a great civilisation But only like that of Ancient Greek, Roman or Chinese civilisations.

My point is we were not unique. -

But As all other ancient civilisations were replaced with modern religions in almost all places. India remained largely same with its ancient culture. But it remained same for thousands of years. Frankly speaking it is an outdated religion.

India is backward and unclean mostly because of the Hindu rituals . caste-ism is playing a big role. We have a tendency to leave our places unclean just because we had scavenger people are there to clean it. Cleaning ourselves was considered a taboo. So as several rituals like dumping flowers ,idols, dead bodies in rivers and saying it is the rituals. Most of India’s water bodies are polluted because of these rituals. And if it was not British, Sati etc. might existed till today. Thousands of litres of Milk etc. are wasted on drainages just to bathe idols in country where kids dying out of malnutrition.

There is no Hope for this country. We remain filthy shit hole of the world. Because we believe that is our rituals, and we don’t want to change. :bash
This is what Muslim and Western semitic religion invaders taught us. Fools like you are the problem of this country !!! Your religion made you a FOOL !!

Truth is this -Try to understand that. You will never understand this .. During the Mughal and Western rule, India reached highest level of GDP. Its due to the good work done by the rulers beforee Mughals and British !!! I will tell you another example. Vajpayee and BJP did a very good governance during 1999-2004 period and GDP attained highest during UPA period. MMS and UPA took the credit of it. From 2004-2014 MMS and UPA looted heavily .. Similarly rulers before Mughals did good governance and Indias GDP attained highest during Mughal period and it started declining after that !!!

India had the world's largest economy from 1 CE to 1000 CE, during the classical to early medieval eras. But while the economy was large, it was also stagnant during this time, with no GDP growth for a thousand years. Between 1000 and 1500, in the late medieval era (during the Delhi Sultanate), India began to experience GDP growth for the first time in a thousand years, but at a slower rate compared to China, which overtook India to become the world's largest economy during that time, with India the second largest economy. Ming China remained the largest economy through to 1600, with India still the second largest. India experienced its fastest economic growth under the Mughal Empire during the 16th–18th centuries, establishing Mughal India as the world's largest economy by 1700, larger than Qing China. The Indian subcontinent also had a larger economy than Western Europe from the 1st century up until the 18th century.[23]

The Indian economy was large and prosperous under the Mughal Empire (1526–1858) up until the early 18th century.[24] During the Mughal period in the 16th century, the gross domestic product of India was estimated at about 25.1% of the world economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...#GDP_estimates

Mughal and British Semitic religion looters looted our country and converted India to a backward country !!! Useless fools doesnt understand this at all !!! They are blind because of the teachings of fraud semitic religions !!
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