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Old August 20th, 2017, 05:56 PM   #7441
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Bharat Bhaiya janta ki Samsya aapka intezar kar rahi hai. Paper me chapi wo dubi huyi Sadke Gandagi Baadh k rula dene wale pic aapka intezar kar rahe hai. Bhaiya please laut aao. Hamari samasyaao k liye kuch to bolo ab Ya fir ab Government ki koi jimmedari nahi rahi.
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Old August 20th, 2017, 06:06 PM   #7442
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Bhai bahut achcha kaha kal tak Government jimmedar thi but ab Public ho gayi. Waah bhai kuch muhavra hai koi lota wala. Kuch is tarah ki baat bolte hai. Waese mere bharat bhaiya kahi kho gaye hai koi khoj kar la de. 1 crore se jyada log badh(flood) me dube huye hai apart unko relief diya jaye hamare manniya Deputy CM sahab Lalu yadav k file ki khoj me din raat jute huye hai. Hona to chahiye tha k Flood ka relief ka jayja lete magar kursi mil gayi log marte rahe Lalu ko nahi chorege bhai lalu ko mat chorna pahle janta ko sahi se pakad lo. Rahat pahuchane k naam par srf lipa poti ho rahi hai Yaqeen na aye to jara ghum aaye un elako me. Mujhe to bahut mayusi huyi un jagaho k halat ko dekhkar.



Aapki najro me kon jimmedar hai . Jo bhi hai mai aapke saath hun.

BTW my comment was above any party or politics. You should have got that.
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Old August 21st, 2017, 08:58 AM   #7443
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Bhai bahut achcha kaha kal tak Government jimmedar thi but ab Public ho gayi. Waah bhai kuch muhavra hai koi lota wala. Kuch is tarah ki baat bolte hai. Waese mere bharat bhaiya kahi kho gaye hai koi khoj kar la de. 1 crore se jyada log badh(flood) me dube huye hai apart unko relief diya jaye hamare manniya Deputy CM sahab Lalu yadav k file ki khoj me din raat jute huye hai. Hona to chahiye tha k Flood ka relief ka jayja lete magar kursi mil gayi log marte rahe Lalu ko nahi chorege bhai lalu ko mat chorna pahle janta ko sahi se pakad lo. Rahat pahuchane k naam par srf lipa poti ho rahi hai Yaqeen na aye to jara ghum aaye un elako me. Mujhe to bahut mayusi huyi un jagaho k halat ko dekhkar.

Bhai govt. pe ungli uthana haq hai iska matlab ye nahi practicality ko takh par rakh diya jaaye. Badh ka jayeja daily khud CM le rahe hain har pal ki khabar hai unhe. Aur 1 Cr. ki jayada ki abadi achanak aayee badh se trast hain. Iska matlab samjhte hain aap 2500-3000 villages hain. Govt ke pas kitni badi team hain kabu pane ke liye 2500-3000. 1 village mein agar 2 boat bhejenge to 400 village mein khatam ho jayegi boat. 6-7 logon ki team banakar rahat kar chalayenge to 428 village mein chalega kaam. Rahat shivir laga kar agar sabko khana denge to kam se kam 500 rahat shivir ki avyasakta hogi. Itna kya govt ke liye possible hai. khud socho bhai. Kitne paise kharch honge inke liye. CM ne avahan kiya hai CM relief fund mein kuchh paise dene ke liye. jitna ho sakta hai govt. kar rahi hai.

Logon ko bhi aage akar madad karni chahiye jo log najdik mein rah rahe hain ye dukh ki ghadi hai , sirf ungli uthane se problem solve nahi hoti sabko kaam karna padta hai.
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Old August 21st, 2017, 12:15 PM   #7444
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Bhai govt. pe ungli uthana haq hai iska matlab ye nahi practicality ko takh par rakh diya jaaye. Badh ka jayeja daily khud CM le rahe hain har pal ki khabar hai unhe. Aur 1 Cr. ki jayada ki abadi achanak aayee badh se trast hain. Iska matlab samjhte hain aap 2500-3000 villages hain. Govt ke pas kitni badi team hain kabu pane ke liye 2500-3000. 1 village mein agar 2 boat bhejenge to 400 village mein khatam ho jayegi boat. 6-7 logon ki team banakar rahat kar chalayenge to 428 village mein chalega kaam. Rahat shivir laga kar agar sabko khana denge to kam se kam 500 rahat shivir ki avyasakta hogi. Itna kya govt ke liye possible hai. khud socho bhai. Kitne paise kharch honge inke liye. CM ne avahan kiya hai CM relief fund mein kuchh paise dene ke liye. jitna ho sakta hai govt. kar rahi hai.

Logon ko bhi aage akar madad karni chahiye jo log najdik mein rah rahe hain ye dukh ki ghadi hai , sirf ungli uthane se problem solve nahi hoti sabko kaam karna padta hai.

One thing I failed to understand is after 70 years, why we are not able to tackle flood situation. I know Lalu govt has made situation worse by not doing anything. If Nitish govt also follow same footstep, then god save us.
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Old August 21st, 2017, 01:04 PM   #7445
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Flood in Bihar

Bihar govt as well as Central Govt is not making proper planning and infrastructure to tackle from flood.
Both Central as well as State Government should decentralize the flood water by making various canals and pipelines for drought areas within the state. Also at both sides of river channel plantation of trees is must and use of bolders. Apart from these steps river belt should be cleaned at regular basis.

A new business can be introduced by State govt by selling Water to Drought States through pipelines. Also water storage tanks should be made at various places so that at the time of summer and winter water can be utilised.
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Old August 21st, 2017, 07:27 PM   #7446
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My dear brothers mai bus ye kahuga k Hum Sarkar ko Chunte hai Sarkar k Paas Infrastructure hai nahi hai to jutaye Sarkar ka Kaam Widhwa Wilaap nahi karna hai. Sarkar agar help nahi kar sakti to Kya Fayda. Corruption ka ek naya Ginn bahar aa gaya 1000+ crore ka ghotala Yahi paese se infrastructure banate to aaj ye din nahi dekhna padta.
Sayad aaplog ko Yaad ho Former President Late Abdul Kalam ne kaha tha k nadiyo ko jod diya jaaye to aesa nahi hoga but hua kya, Talented aadmi ne solutions diya but usse Rahat k naam par ghotala karne ko nahi milega na. India is Capable to do anything to baadh ki samsya jhelna badi baat nahi ha agar Sarkar chahe tab. Srf Helicopter se ghumne se kya hoga Srf pani dikhega upar se jamin par utrenge tab pata chalega.
Aur srf nitish ji hi q hamare manniya ghotala ujarak deputy CM sahab to abhi srf lalu ki file talas rahe hai.
Maaf kariyega magar maine waha jo Scenery dekha hai kabhi kabhi Khana kha nahi pata hu. Wo scenery aankho k aage ghumte hai magar mai kuch nahi kar sakta. Q k Karne wale Kursi ko Majbut karne me lage hai.
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Old August 21st, 2017, 07:28 PM   #7447
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Akhir kaha jata hai har Saal Release hone wala Fund?
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 12:01 AM   #7448
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Permanent Solutions for Devastating Flood?

I was also frustrated then I got to know that Central govt. (including previous one) has been trying to come up with a deal with Nepal govt., a deal similar to the one we have with Bangladesh (20% of the total electricity produced and annual annual compensation). A barage in Nepal's land with 10% electricity of total electricity produced by Hydel power point on the barage for Nepal. Along with this an annual compensation in INR to Nepal govt. Nepal govt. is asking the money in dollars unlike Bangladesh which takes money in INR and this is a problem for INDIA. Till date, INDIA has not been able to negotiate even with pro-indian government in Nepal.
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 07:20 AM   #7449
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I was also frustrated then I got to know that Central govt. (including previous one) has been trying to come up with a deal with Nepal govt., a deal similar to the one we have with Bangladesh (20% of the total electricity produced and annual annual compensation). A barage in Nepal's land with 10% electricity of total electricity produced by Hydel power point on the barage for Nepal. Along with this an annual compensation in INR to Nepal govt. Nepal govt. is asking the money in dollars unlike Bangladesh which takes money in INR and this is a problem for INDIA. Till date, INDIA has not been able to negotiate even with pro-indian government in Nepal.
Me ne kahi suna hai. India me barh ka zimmedar Nepal srif 1% hai baki hamari khud ki galti hai 200 se 250 sal ke bich ham ne Kai nadiyan khatam kar di Jo kudrat ka tarika tha us se hum ne Cher char ki Kai choti nadi ko bhar diya gaya aur us par ghar bana diya gaya janglat kate gaye. Ye sab baat me ne lallan top par suni thi. Woh to ye bhi keh rahe the ke indian govt apna palla jharne ke liye hamesha se bas Nepal ka naam laga deti hai ke Nepal pani chor raha hai
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 12:36 PM   #7450
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Me ne kahi suna hai. India me barh ka zimmedar Nepal srif 1% hai baki hamari khud ki galti hai 200 se 250 sal ke bich ham ne Kai nadiyan khatam kar di Jo kudrat ka tarika tha us se hum ne Cher char ki Kai choti nadi ko bhar diya gaya aur us par ghar bana diya gaya janglat kate gaye. Ye sab baat me ne lallan top par suni thi. Woh to ye bhi keh rahe the ke indian govt apna palla jharne ke liye hamesha se bas Nepal ka naam laga deti hai ke Nepal pani chor raha hai
Han. Ye sahi hai. Badh ke prabhav ko puri tarah se khatm nahi kiya ja sakta hai lekin bahut kam jarur kiya ja sakta hai. Rashtrapati Abdul Kalam ne Nepal se nikalnewali nadiyon ke pani ko channelize karne ka sujhav Nithish kumar ko 7-8 sal pahle diya tha jisse badh ka prabhav bahut kam ho aur pani ko sinchayi me kam laya jaye. Sachhayi yahi hai ki ab tak kisi sarkar ya vyakti vishesh ne itni ruchi nahi dikhayi hai is samasya ke liye jitni ki jarurat hai.
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Han. Ye sahi hai. Badh ke prabhav ko puri tarah se khatm nahi kiya ja sakta hai lekin bahut kam jarur kiya ja sakta hai. Rashtrapati Abdul Kalam ne Nepal se nikalnewali nadiyon ke pani ko channelize karne ka sujhav Nithish kumar ko 7-8 sal pahle diya tha jisse badh ka prabhav bahut kam ho aur pani ko sinchayi me kam laya jaye. Sachhayi yahi hai ki ab tak kisi sarkar ya vyakti vishesh ne itni ruchi nahi dikhayi hai is samasya ke liye jitni ki jarurat hai.
Abhi kiya kiya ja sakta hai??? Kiya kabhi Patna me bhi barh ka pani ata hai???
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Some academics did research on the North Bihar flood situation some years ago and recommended construction of large dams (particularly along the Kosi River) in Nepal for hydroelectric power, which could also be used to store water. These would mitigate the flooding situation in North Bihar.

Unfortunately Nepal underwent a Communist coup about 10 years ago, and now has a government that is reflexively anti-India. Convincing them to do anything, if if it's in their self interest, and even if India's helps pay for the cost of it is very difficult. There was also a major earthquake in Nepal some years ago and the domestic money is still going towards restoration since then not new infrastructure development. It will take national leadership to accomplish anything and as you all know Bihar has historically been ignored by the Center (and furthermore North Bihar ignored in Patna).

I do think North Bihar is overpopulated, which adds to the tragedy. Probably in historic times, fewer people lived in these lower lying and riverine areas. There was also more jungle, which helps soak up the flood water. Perhaps while the Nepal question remains, the government of Bihar can take some steps to promote reforestation in North Bihar and also encourage some of the people in low lying areas to abandon and move elsewhere. Maybe also build some deep concrete channels from North-South down to the Ganga to drain excessive waters, to assist the rivers in flood times.
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A new business can be introduced by State govt by selling Water to Drought States through pipelines. Also water storage tanks should be made at various places so that at the time of summer and winter water can be utilised.
Unfortunately, those solutions would be hard to work. You would need something the size of a Great Lake to store the monsoon water. There wouldn't be enough space for the storage tanks.

Also , water flows downhill. Bihar is at a depressed elevation compared to its neighbors (except Bengal). It would not be possible (not without enormous amounts of energy) to pump the water hundreds of meters in height over UP, MP, Jharkhand to get to the drier parts of the country.

In the Western U.S. they have projects to bring water to vast, arid cities like Los Angeles and Phoenix, as well as to grow crops in the interior desert regions (including rice). But these projects don't bring water from the Eastern U.S. (which is green and rich in surface water/precipitation), because that would involving pumping the water over the Continental Divide which is too energy intensive to be economical. By and large, the water comes from tapping nearby mountain glaciers/lakes and bringing the water via aqueduct downhill, not much different in technology than what the ancient Romans utilized thousands of years ago.
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Unfortunately, those solutions would be hard to work. You would need something the size of a Great Lake to store the monsoon water. There wouldn't be enough space for the storage tanks.

Also , water flows downhill. Bihar is at a depressed elevation compared to its neighbors (except Bengal). It would not be possible (not without enormous amounts of energy) to pump the water hundreds of meters in height over UP, MP, Jharkhand to get to the drier parts of the country.

In the Western U.S. they have projects to bring water to vast, arid cities like Los Angeles and Phoenix, as well as to grow crops in the interior desert regions (including rice). But these projects don't bring water from the Eastern U.S. (which is green and rich in surface water/precipitation), because that would involving pumping the water over the Continental Divide which is too energy intensive to be economical. By and large, the water comes from tapping nearby mountain glaciers/lakes and bringing the water via aqueduct downhill, not much different in technology than what the ancient Romans utilized thousands of years ago.
A minor correction .. The California Aqueduct system does utilize Water Lifting Pumps at multiple locations to raise the water through hills and mountains.
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