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Old October 20th, 2014, 02:58 PM   #14641
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What is the upper limit for these Special trains fare.

Unless they put a cap on that - say 2 to 3 times of the normal fare - like that, this may not be successful.

Tickets that are bought after reaching the stage will not have dynamic increase.
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What is the upper limit for these Special trains fare.

Unless they put a cap on that - say 2 to 3 times of the normal fare - like that, this may not be successful.

Tickets that are bought after reaching the stage will not have dynamic increase.
Its not a question of Success of un success as its like competing with the Bus mafia on price fixing,,lame idea from BJP..

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வழக்கமாக, பண்டிகை காலங்களில் பயணிகள் நெரிசலை சமாளிக்க சிறப்பு ரயில்களை வழக்கமான கட்டணத்தில் இயக்குவார்கள். இந்தமுறை அந்த சிஸ்டத்தை மாற்றிவிட்டு 'பிரீமியம் ரயில்கள்’ என்கிற பெயரில் கூடுதல் கட்டணத்தில் 96 ரயில்களை இயக்குவதாக அறிவித்துள்ளது ரயில்வே துறை. இவற்றில் ஐந்து ரயில்கள் தமிழகத்தில் இயக்கப்படுகின்றன. இதுதவிர இனி எப்போதும் பிரீமியம் ரயில்கள் ஒவ்வொரு வழித்தடத்திலும் இயக்கப்படும் என்றும் மத்திய ரயில்வே அமைச்சர் சொல்கிறார்.
சேலத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ரயில் பயணி குப்புராஜ், ''ஆயுத பூஜைக்கு முந்தின நாள் எனது நண்பர் ஒருவர் வந்தார். நெல்லை டு சென்னைக்கு மூன்றடுக்கு ஏ.சி-யில் டிக்கெட் புக்கிங் செய்யச் சொன்னார். பிரீமியம் ரயிலில் மட்டும் இடம் இருந்ததால் நான் அதில் புக்கிங் செய்தேன். டிக்கெட் புக்கிங் செய்யும்போது ஒரு டிக்கெட் கட்டணமாக விலை 1,250 ரூபாய் என காட்டியது. நான் இரண்டு டிக்கெட் போட்டேன். இரண்டுக்கும் சேர்த்து 2,500 ரூபாய்தான் எடுத்திருக்க வேண்டும். ஆனால், 6,600 ரூபாய் எடுக்கப்பட்டு இருந்தது. இதைப் பார்த்ததும் ஷாக் ஆகிவிட்டது. உடனே ரயில்வே துறைக்கு போன் செய்து கேட்டேன். 'நீங்க ரூல்ஸை படிக்கவில்லையா? அதில் தெளிவாகப் போட்டிருக்கோமே... போட்டது போட்டதுதான். இந்த டிக்கெட்டை கேன்சல் செய்யவும் முடியாது’ என்று சொன்னார்கள். இது பகல் கொள்ளையாக இருக்கிறதே என்று அவர்களிடம் சத்தம் போட்டேன். 'இதையெல்லாம் பிரதமர் மோடியிடம் சொல்லுங்கள். நாங்கள் சாதாரண ஊழியர்கள்தான். ஏதோ நாங்க உங்க பணத்தை வீட்டுக்கு எடுத்துட்டுப் போற மாதிரி பேசுறீங்க...’ என்றார். இதை நான் டிக்கெட் போடச் சொன்ன நண்பரிடம் சொன்னபோது, சண்டைக்கு வந்துவிட்டார். அவரிடம் எவ்வளவோ சொல்லியும், 'ரெண்டு டிக்கெட்டுக்கும் ரெண்டாயிரம் ரூபாய்க்கு மேல தர முடியாது’ என்று சொல்லிவிட்டார். என்ன செய்யுறது சொல்லுங்க...?'' என்று வேதனையோடு கேட்கிறார்.
பிரீமியம் ரயில் கட்டண உயர்வு பற்றி எஸ்.ஆர்.எம்.யூ பொதுச் செயலாளர் என்.கண்ணையாவிடம் பேசினோம். ''தீபாவளி சமயத்தில் சில ஆம்னி பஸ்காரங்கதான் இப்படி செய்வாங்க. அவங்களையே மிஞ்சும் வகையில் ரயில்வே இந்த பிரீமியம் ரயில் திட்டத்தைக் கொண்டு வந்திருக்கிறது. ரயில் கிளம்பும் நேரத்தையும் பயணிகளின் தேவையையும், காலியிடங்களையும் அடிப்படையாக கொண்டு வடிவமைக்கப்பட்ட புரோகிராம் உதவியுடன் கம்ப்யூட்டரே கட்டணத்தை நிர்ணயம் செய்யும். இதற்கு, 'டைனமிக் கட்டணம் சிஸ்டம்’ என்று பெயர் வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள். தட்டுப்பாடுக்கு தகுந்தாற்போல் இந்தக் கட்டணம் 200 சதவிகிதம் வரை உயருமாம். இதுமட்டுமல்ல... ஏற்கெனவே ஒவ்வொரு ரயிலிலும் உள்ள மொத்த பயணிகளின் இருக்கைகளில் 50 சதவிகித இருக்கைகள் தட்கல் என்கிற பெயரில் கூடுதல் கட்டணத்தில் விற்கப்படுகின்றன. தீபாவளி நேரத்தில் தட்கல் டிக்கெட்டிலும் பாதியை பிரீமியம் தட்கல் என்று விற்கிறார்கள். இதிலும் பிரீமியம் ரயிலைப்போல டிக்கெட் தட்டுப்பாடுக்கு ஏற்ப கட்டணம் உயரும். இப்படியே போனால் எதிர்காலத்தில் சாதாரண மக்களுக்கு ரயில் பயணம் என்பதே கனவாகிவிடும்'' என்று சொன்னார்.

ராஜ்யசபா எம்.பி-யான திருச்சி சிவா, ''அரசின் சேவை துறைகள் என்கிற வரிசையில் ரயில்வே வருகிறது. ஏழை, எளிய நடுத்தர மக்கள் வசதி, பாதுகாப்பையும் தாண்டி, செலவு குறைவானது என்பதால்தான் ரயிலைப் பயன்படுத்துகிறார்கள். ஆனால், ஒரு முக்கியமான சந்தர்ப்பத்தைப் பயன்படுத்தி பல மடங்கு கூடுதல் கட்டணம் என்கிற வகையில் ஏழை மக்களின் வயிற்றில் அடிப்பது தவறு. அரசைப் பொறுத்தவரையில், லாபம் ஈட்ட எத்தனையோ வழிகள் இருக்கின்றன. இந்த கட்டண உயர்வை உடனே வாபஸ்பெற வேண்டும். இதுபற்றி மத்திய அரசிடம் நிச்சயமாகப் பேசுவேன்'' என்றார்.

தமிழகத்தில் அ.தி.மு.க எம்.பி-க்கள் இருவர், மத்திய ரயில்வே நிலைக்குழுவில் உறுப்பினர்கள். ஒருவர், மத்திய சென்னை நாடாளுமன்ற எம்.பி-யான எஸ்.ஆர். விஜயகுமார். இன்னொருவர், திருச்சியைச் சேர்ந்த ராஜ்யசபா எம்.பி-யான ரத்தினவேலு. இருவரிடமும் நாம் பேசினோம். இருவரும் சொன்ன பதில் இதுதான்: ''ரயில்வே போர்டு மீட்டிங் டெல்லியில் நடக்கிறது. பிரீமியம் ரயில் கட்டண உயர்வு விஷயத்தில் தமிழக மக்களின் கடும் அதிருப்தியை நாங்கள் எடுத்துச் சொல்ல இருக்கிறோம். நிச்சயம் நல்ல தீர்வு கிடைக்கும்!''

வாழ்க்கையில் போரடிக்காத விஷயங்களில் ரயில் பயணமும் ஒன்று என்பார்கள். அதை திகிலடிக்கும் பயணமாக மத்திய அரசு மாற்றிவிடக் கூடாது!
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Old October 20th, 2014, 07:34 PM   #14643
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I like the new dynamic pricing - at least now people who are willing to shell out money can get seats in the last minute. But there should be some changes if they want to make it work

- I read that sometime the prices are not revealed until the booking is completed. I don't know if this is true - if this is indeed true, it should be changed. Even while booking an air ticket using dynamic pricing, we see the price clearly before booking.

- if they want to fairly price the seats, the upper end should not exceed airline prices. The average prices should be far below that.

IMO, except for a couple of UR compartments, every seat/birth can be dynamically priced. The market forces will automatically bring the prices down to what the market will bear. People are happy they can get seats any time provided they are willing to pay some more. The railway can use the excess revenue to complete much needed projects and provide/improve basic amenities to passengers.
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Old October 21st, 2014, 06:35 AM   #14644
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Railways are giving about 85% of the sleeper class tickets at damn cheap rates. (Erode to Chennai at just Rs 250 for 400 Km journey with berth facility. No bus can give at that rate for sleeping facility).

second sitting seat is even cheaper and suburban tickets are almost at through away prices

Also 3 tier AC and 2 tier AC at nominal rates.

So balance 15% of the seats are being sold at higher rates in order to counter the losses incurred by cheap selling of 85% seats.

Since the railways are unable to increase the fares in line with the cost ( like giving freedom to oil companies to fix the oil prices), they have to do this.

Passengers who can not afford to pay/ not willing to pay the higher rates can very well plan in advance for the 85% seats.

However on premium trains, Railways can run such trains provided alternate ordinary train is also there in the same route unlike Madurai-Jaipur premium train which has failed
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Old October 21st, 2014, 08:46 AM   #14645
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Railways are giving about 85% of the sleeper class tickets at damn cheap rates. (Erode to Chennai at just Rs 250 for 400 Km journey with berth facility. No bus can give at that rate for sleeping facility).

second sitting seat is even cheaper and suburban tickets are almost at through away prices

Also 3 tier AC and 2 tier AC at nominal rates.

So balance 15% of the seats are being sold at higher rates in order to counter the losses incurred by cheap selling of 85% seats.

Since the railways are unable to increase the fares in line with the cost ( like giving freedom to oil companies to fix the oil prices), they have to do this.

Passengers who can not afford to pay/ not willing to pay the higher rates can very well plan in advance for the 85% seats.

However on premium trains, Railways can run such trains provided alternate ordinary train is also there in the same route unlike Madurai-Jaipur premium train which has failed

Railways uses 20 year old coaches and also fuel usage is 1/10th compared to Buses..... Etc... we cant pay for inefficiency of IR employees...

IR should increase private participation in wagon, engine ,track building, station and maintenance.. and operations should remain with IR railways just like BSNL or other Public sector companies.....

Premium trains are good,, only issue i feel is that we should be aware what we are paying... we cant just blindly press pay button.....
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Old October 21st, 2014, 11:53 AM   #14646
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Railways are giving about 85% of the sleeper class tickets at damn cheap rates. (Erode to Chennai at just Rs 250 for 400 Km journey with berth facility. No bus can give at that rate for sleeping facility).

second sitting seat is even cheaper and suburban tickets are almost at through away prices

Also 3 tier AC and 2 tier AC at nominal rates.

So balance 15% of the seats are being sold at higher rates in order to counter the losses incurred by cheap selling of 85% seats.

Since the railways are unable to increase the fares in line with the cost ( like giving freedom to oil companies to fix the oil prices), they have to do this.

Passengers who can not afford to pay/ not willing to pay the higher rates can very well plan in advance for the 85% seats.

However on premium trains, Railways can run such trains provided alternate ordinary train is also there in the same route unlike Madurai-Jaipur premium train which has failed
Well said. 85% of the people are benefitted most. For the next 15% seats, those who can pay, let them pay. Else, railways will get hit. I agree fully that if railways are charging premium rates, the facilities also have to be to the class required. That is woefully lacking. Wish someone files a PIL and ensures that railways give the respect for the money the customer gives.
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Old October 21st, 2014, 12:32 PM   #14647
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I think most of us here are not opposed to Tatkal or Premium Trains.

The dynamic pricing of a few trains going above the plane fare is absurd and IR provides the same rickety coaches and not swanky coaches.

They should have enough cheaper alternative trains for the poor people also.

They should fix up the upper limit and make the scheme viable.
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Old October 21st, 2014, 10:27 PM   #14648
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Special trains between Nagercoil – Patna (via Chennai Egmore)
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Train No.06354 Nagercoil – Patna special train (via Chennai Egmore) will leave Nagercoil 06.30 hrs o*n 26.10.2014, Sunday, leave Chennai Egmore at 22.00 hrs. o*n 26.10.2014, Sunday and reach Patna at 16.00 hrs. o*n 28.10.2014, Tuesday.
Train No.06353 Patna – Nagercoil special train (via Chennai Egmore) will leave Patna at 10.00 hrs. o*n 31.10.2014, Friday, leave Chennai Egmore at 04.00 hrs. o*n 02.11.2014, Sunday and reach Nagercoil at 17.30 hrs. o*n 02.11.2014.
The trains will stop at Tirunelveli, Kovilpatti, Sattur, Virudhunagar, Madurai, Dindigul, Tiruchchirappalli, Vriddhachalam, Villupuram, Chengalpattu, Tambaram, Chennai Egmore, Gudur, Vijayawada, Warangal, Balharshah, Nagpur, Amla, Itarsi, Pipariya, Jabalpur, Katni, Satna, Manikpur, Chheoki, Mirzapur, Mugalsarai, Buxar, Ara and Danapur.
The composition of the trains will be 1 AC 2-tier, 3 AC 3-tier, 14 Sleeper Class, 3 General Class and 2 luggage-cum-brake van coaches.
Advance reservation for Train No.06354 Nagercoil – Patna special train will commence o*n 22.10.2014.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 09:13 AM   #14649
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New Train to Kerala in Pipeline, Says MP


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PUDUCHERRY: Lok Sabha member R Radhakrishnan has taken the initiative to introduce new trains from Puducherry like former Union Minister of State for PMO V Narayanasamy did. He had been instrumental in introducing 17 new trains linking the Union Territory.

In response to the plea from the Kerala Samajam, Radhakrishnan considered the appeal and worked for the introduction of a train service from Puducherry to Thiruvananthapuram via Ernakulam. “Besides, I am now trying to get the Tiruchy-Nagore train extended to Karaikal,” Radhakrishnan told Express.

The Thiruvananthapuram train would be useful to over 30,000 Malayalees residing in Puducherry, as well as others. On the other hand, the Tiruchy connectivity would also be beneficial for the people of Karaikal.
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Registration Number : MORLY/E/2014/11662
Name Of Complainant : SURESHKUMAR S K
Date of Receipt : 22 Oct 2014
Received by : Ministry of Railways, ( Railway Board)
Officer name : Shri Ashok Choudhary
Officer Designation : Executive Director(PG)
Contact Address : Room No. 467, Rail Bhavan,
Railway board
New Delhi110001
Contact Number : 23386203
e-mail : edpg@rb.railnet.gov.in
Grievance Description : Daily Tutucorin-Mangalore overnight superfast express via vanchamaniyachi bypass Thirunelveli Nagercoil and Trivandrum should be operated. The train should leave Tutucorin at 3 pm and reach Mangalore junction by 7 30 am.This train will provide direct connectivity between important places like Kannur Calicut Ernakulam Trivandrum with important commercial port city Tutucorin similarly the train should start Mangalore junction by 4 pm and reach Trivandrum by 6am and subsequently Tuticorin by 10am. The freight traffic in this route can also be improved substantially and seemless connectivity between important ports such as Kochi Kollam and Tutucorin can be achieved. Another important demand is the operation of daily Kochuveli Karaikal overnight express via Trivandrum Neyyattinkara Nagercoil Madurai Thanjore Nagapatnam. This will connect Trivandrum with important pilgrimage centers such as Thanjavoor Nagore and kaarikal with Trivandrum. Religious and cultural unity can be acheived. At present there is no connectivity. The train should start kochuveli at 7 pm and via Nagercoil should reach trichy by 4 AM and karikal by 8 AM. Extension of Trichy thirunelveli intercity superfast express to Trivandrum is another important demand. The vanchinad express rake reaching trivandum from ernakulam is lying idle for 8 hours at trivandum. This rake can be effectively operated to trichirapally from Trivandrum and incoming rake from Trichy reaching Thirunelveli can be extended to Trivandrum and this can be operated as Trivandrum Ernakulam vanchinad express. This is simply possible by rake sharing arrangement. The traffic during this time from trivandrum trichy is nil and people from kottayam changanachery can also reach tirunelveli Madurai the connection for which is completly absent. Trivandrum New Delhi Kerala express should be allowed to travel through Ernakulam town without touching Ernakulam junction .This will save travel time by 45 miniutes and time energy and cost involved operations can be considerably reduced. Possibility of operation of trivandrum mysore biweekly superfast express can also be explored.
Current Status : RECEIVED THE GRIEVANCE
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Registration Number : MORLY/E/2014/11662
Name Of Complainant : SURESHKUMAR S K
Date of Receipt : 22 Oct 2014
Received by : Ministry of Railways, ( Railway Board)
Officer name : Shri Ashok Choudhary
Officer Designation : Executive Director(PG)
Contact Address : Room No. 467, Rail Bhavan,
Railway board
New Delhi110001
Contact Number : 23386203
e-mail : edpg@rb.railnet.gov.in
Grievance Description : Daily Tutucorin-Mangalore overnight superfast express via vanchamaniyachi bypass Thirunelveli Nagercoil and Trivandrum should be operated. The train should leave Tutucorin at 3 pm and reach Mangalore junction by 7 30 am.This train will provide direct connectivity between important places like Kannur Calicut Ernakulam Trivandrum with important commercial port city Tutucorin similarly the train should start Mangalore junction by 4 pm and reach Trivandrum by 6am and subsequently Tuticorin by 10am. The freight traffic in this route can also be improved substantially and seemless connectivity between important ports such as Kochi Kollam and Tutucorin can be achieved. Another important demand is the operation of daily Kochuveli Karaikal overnight express via Trivandrum Neyyattinkara Nagercoil Madurai Thanjore Nagapatnam. This will connect Trivandrum with important pilgrimage centers such as Thanjavoor Nagore and kaarikal with Trivandrum. Religious and cultural unity can be acheived. At present there is no connectivity. The train should start kochuveli at 7 pm and via Nagercoil should reach trichy by 4 AM and karikal by 8 AM. Extension of Trichy thirunelveli intercity superfast express to Trivandrum is another important demand. The vanchinad express rake reaching trivandum from ernakulam is lying idle for 8 hours at trivandum. This rake can be effectively operated to trichirapally from Trivandrum and incoming rake from Trichy reaching Thirunelveli can be extended to Trivandrum and this can be operated as Trivandrum Ernakulam vanchinad express. This is simply possible by rake sharing arrangement. The traffic during this time from trivandrum trichy is nil and people from kottayam changanachery can also reach tirunelveli Madurai the connection for which is completly absent. Trivandrum New Delhi Kerala express should be allowed to travel through Ernakulam town without touching Ernakulam junction .This will save travel time by 45 miniutes and time energy and cost involved operations can be considerably reduced. Possibility of operation of trivandrum mysore biweekly superfast express can also be explored.
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I think tuticorin will only get connection to Mangalore via Madurai, palghat and calicut after gauge conversion.
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New features in 139

II. NEW FEATURES OF INTEGRATED TRAIN ENQUIRY SYSTEM (139)





http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/...3CE8464.web107

The Integrated Train Enquiry System (139), introduced during 2007, is a very useful system providing train related information such as accommodation availability, current status of PNR, etc. to passengers instantly.Passengers have found this system to be very helpful.





In the recent past, new facilities such as ‘Spot your train’, ‘Mobile based destination arrival alerts’ and ‘Mobile based alarm alerts’have been added to this system.





The ‘Mobile based Destination Arrival Alerts’ is now available o­n SMS / IVR / Agent assistance through 139. This facility helps passengers o­n Indian Railways to set an alert / pre-information call before they reach their destination.





‘Spot your train’, yet another helpful facility, is also available through 139.This facility helps o­ne to know the exact location of a train.Passengers can make use of these facilities to get additional information and services.
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Passengers stranded following landslip on Nilgiris rail track

कोयंबटूर Coimbatore (CBE): Around 150 passengers of the Nilgiris Mountian Rail (NMR) Train service were today stranded in the middle of the ghat section following landslip on the track near Aderley Station.

The heritage train, which started at 2.30 PM from Udhagamandalam, was stopped half-way before Aderley following landslip, with boulders on the track, railway officials said.

Around 150 passengers were panic-stricken as they were stranded in the middle of the jungle on ghat sections, amid rains, police said.

Railway authorities arranged vehicles to bring passengers to Mettupalayam, for which they have to climb down about three km and some railway staff are assisting them, railway officials said.

Meanwhile, the train returned to Coonoor and in view of the landslip, the services of NMR were cancelled for tomorrow, officials said.
Source: http://www.railnews.co.in/passengers...is-rail-track/
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