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Old August 11th, 2017, 01:30 AM   #36721
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:42 AM   #36722
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We've talked before about how Google Maps is very unreliable with travel times in Europe during holiday traffic because it bases its forecasted delay on historic travel times, where peak traffic and construction is not accurately factored in to.

It also appears that Google Maps travel time becomes saturated, you rarely see over 1.5 hours travel time for individual traffic jams even when there is a complete standstill. Last weekend there was 3-4 hour delay on German A3 near Leverkusen due to construction, but Google Maps never went over 1h30minutes for that 15 km section.

I also noticed this; when I drag the route to A14, it says a 2h6m driving time. But when I released the mouse button it's suddenly only 1h4m driving time.



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Old August 12th, 2017, 11:58 AM   #36723
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By the way, those totally straight roads are an interesting view on a map.

In Poland, the Warsaw - Białystok road looks like this (or used to look, before they built bypasses of some cities), but it's rather an exception. You rarely see so straight roads, like drawn using a ruler, in Europe.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 12:01 PM   #36724
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There are many straight roads in Belarus, Ukraine and Russia as well.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 12:29 PM   #36725
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You can blame the Romans for that "totally straight" route between Cesena and Piacenza
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Old August 12th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #36726
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You can blame the Romans for that "totally straight" route between Cesena and Piacenza
Yes, SS9 was built following the ancient Via Emilia, between Milan and Rimini.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 01:30 PM   #36727
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There are many straight roads in Belarus, Ukraine and Russia as well.
Hasn't Belarus the longest straight road in Europe, more than 100 km?
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Old August 12th, 2017, 01:35 PM   #36728
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The results of the thunderstorm in Łódź today in the morning: http://www.expressilustrowany.pl/lod...2051,24979871/

Some big trees got drawn from the ground with roots. So strong was the wind.

The trains traffic is still blocked in two places in the city, as well as many tram lines (with practically non-existent bustitution, as there was so many of them).
Something similar happened on the same day in Veneto and Friuli regions, Italy.

Fallen trees on A23 near Udine:



In Lignano:



Supermarket destroyed in San Vito al Tagliamento:



More: http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/u...8?ref=fbfmv#27
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Old August 12th, 2017, 02:36 PM   #36729
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Yes, SS9 was built following the ancient Via Emilia, between Milan and Rimini.
What impresses me is not so much that the modern alignment closely follows the old Roman road, but that the alignment of consular roads of the Roman Empire had enormous 'staying power' over two millennia.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:32 PM   #36730
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Film about German Reichsautobahnen. As they portait A8 Munich-Austria frequently (Bernau am Chiemsee) I guess it's from 1938-1939



Neverthenless, people walked along the bridges and shoulders quite frequently then.
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Old August 14th, 2017, 07:18 PM   #36731
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Old August 14th, 2017, 09:23 PM   #36732
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What impresses me is not so much that the modern alignment closely follows the old Roman road, but that the alignment of consular roads of the Roman Empire had enormous 'staying power' over two millennia.
Ancient roads had been built by following the easiest possible allignment in relation with the terrain, and passing through all villages and towns on the way. Those paths worked well for their purpose regardless it was 200 B.C., 1400 or 1920.

Only in the second half of the 20th century (with some pioneer ideas in its first half, like Reichautobahnnen, early Italian autostrade, or US parkways), with the booming of motorized traffic, emerged the necessity to build brand new roads, that allowed higher speeds, higher capacity, and the possibility to separate local traffic from long-distance traffic, bringing the latter far away from settlements.
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Old August 15th, 2017, 02:04 AM   #36733
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Film about German Reichsautobahnen. As they portait A8 Munich-Austria frequently (Bernau am Chiemsee) I guess it's from 1938-1939


Neverthenless, people walked along the bridges and shoulders quite frequently then.
must be such era, they use a certain, ahem, period-specific language
must be before late '39 though since the map shows a gap in the "corridor"...
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Old August 15th, 2017, 03:12 PM   #36734
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Turns out there was more to the story of Chiemsee rest stop in the film clip I wasn't aware of:
https://www.geschichtsspuren.de/arti...-rasthaus.html
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Old August 16th, 2017, 08:47 AM   #36735
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Well, with 9k km travelled I experienced my very first accident. A lady reversed and hit my bumper hard. Total cost of repair - 1.100 €. Thanks for the full insurance coverage. Having misunderstood the date of my repair I brought my car to a repair service two days earlier. They told me to leave my car there and provided me with a spare car until my car was ready. All for free.

I remember that offer in the Opel repair service - they asked 40 € per hour for letting me a spare car.
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Old August 16th, 2017, 09:08 AM   #36736
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A rental car?

I had minor damage recently, a neighbor slammed his door into my car. It was repaired and I got a free rental car. A Kio Rio, not a big fan of it. The dashboard reflection in the windshield is just ridiculous. I also found it noisy and the leg rest on the center console was annoying. Which is quite a big deal since your leg would rest against it all the time. I found it uncomfortable within 2 minutes, not to mention having to deal with that for 2 hours or a whole day...
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Old August 16th, 2017, 09:49 AM   #36737
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A rental car?

I had minor damage recently, a neighbor slammed his door into my car. It was repaired and I got a free rental car. A Kio Rio, not a big fan of it. The dashboard reflection in the windshield is just ridiculous. I also found it noisy and the leg rest on the center console was annoying. Which is quite a big deal since your leg would rest against it all the time. I found it uncomfortable within 2 minutes, not to mention having to deal with that for 2 hours or a whole day...
The low-end cars are full of trade-offs. No room for decent noise insulation, and generally limited space for all bells and whistles.
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Old August 16th, 2017, 11:36 AM   #36738
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must be such era, they use a certain, ahem, period-specific language
must be before late '39 though since the map shows a gap in the "corridor"...
Part of the movie (Grossglockner) is in Austria, the road network map show Austria as a part of Germany, but shows the 1920-39 German-Polish border. So it's surely after the Anschluss but before the invading of Poland. As it's surely summer, it must be the summer of 1938 or '39.
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Old August 16th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #36739
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The dashboard reflection in the windshield is just ridiculous.
I bought myself a pair of polarised glasses which I use mostly for driving. I don't see any reflection in my windshield, plus it reduces the sun glare from other cars or water. It works so good that I bought also a polarised filter for my photo camera.
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Old August 16th, 2017, 12:43 PM   #36740
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I bought myself a pair of polarised glasses which I use mostly for driving. I don't see any reflection in my windshield, plus it reduces the sun glare from other cars or water. It works so good that I bought also a polarised filter for my photo camera.
I've thought that non-polarized sunglasses are only good to spoil your vision.
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