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Old May 25th, 2009, 08:52 PM   #1
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DARWIN - #PROPOSED: 22 Smith St (old CBA site) - 21st / 79m / mixed use

Its time this project deserved its own thread

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21 storey tower close to approval
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...tm?site=darwin


Darwin City Council looks set to approve a proposal to redevelop the old Commonwealth Bank building on Smith Street in the CBD.

The proposal to build a 21 storey tower with a hotel, apartment and a restaurant was presented in 2007 but was resubmitted at a council meeting last night with some changes.

The council's approval is the final hurdle for the development.

The Lord Mayor, Graeme Sawyer, says the Council is impressed by the architect's commitment to preserving the heritage-listed bank building.

"That end of the mall is a bit dead on that side and the old Commonwealth Bank site has been a bit of an eyesore since it's been vacant and suffered vandalism.

"This site development looks to be quite positive in the sense that they're doing a quite good development but really going out of their way to protect the heritage values of the old bank site."
An artist's impression of bar and restaurant in the building - from the NT News
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Old May 25th, 2009, 09:00 PM   #2
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Heres another news article on this development, this time from the NT News

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Visions of past at former bank site
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/200...-business.html
BEN LANGFORD

May 20th, 2009

THE old Commonwealth Bank building in the heart of Darwin's CBD could be turned into a restaurant and bar that would "echo" the function and style of the old Darwin Hotel,developers say.

A revised plan has been produced for the development of the site on the corner of Smith and Bennett streets near Darwin's state square precinct.

The Commonwealth Hotel and Residences development is being designed by heritage experts at Sydney-based Tanner architects.

A "twin blade" structure has been added to the building design to echo the lines of the old bank building, which will not bealtered externally.

The developer is Philip Grice's Fannie Bay Investments.

Planner June D'Rozario told Darwin City Council's recent meeting the development would stay true to the old bank's heritage values and would open up the inside of the building.

"The essential parts of the building ... have not been altered," she said.

Developers proposed a 1940s-style tropical piano bar for inside the restored heritage-listed area, "echoing the function of the former Darwin Hotel".

But they admitted at the council meeting they could not control how a tenant would use the venue.

The development was first proposed in 2007 but has been modified to take into account problems the council had with some parts of the design, largely concerning access and parking.

The entire bank building would remain intact.

The 21-storey development would be built next to it, and would contain seven levels of offices, two levels of hotel with 24 suites, and 10 levels containing 44 apartments.

Parking could still prove a problem, with a shortfall of 100 spaces on planning requirements and a set-down area on Bennett St that would only fit two cars - not a full coach.

If cars were in the spots while a bus was waiting to park it could stop traffic on the busy street.

Entry to the building would be from Smith St and cars would leave along the narrow Yuen Place, which would need to have its present parking spots removed to allow vehicles to exit.

The revised plans will be considered by the council and the Development Consent Authority.

Also heres a photo of the Old Commonwealth Bank, taken in 1942.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 01:32 AM   #3
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message back from tanners architects
ground rl=29m
top rl=107.5m
height= 78.5m
;-)
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Old May 26th, 2009, 06:20 AM   #4
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Thanks.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 10:43 AM   #5
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shouldnt be pedantic, but 78.5 gets rouded up to 79m
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Old May 28th, 2009, 04:36 PM   #6
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Which gets rounded up to 80 if you can't be bothered saying 79
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:58 AM   #7
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Planning notice lodged last week

Lot 413, Town of Darwin
22 Smith Street, Darwin City
Shops, restaurants, offices, 24 hotel
suites, 24 x 2, 16 x 3 and
4 x 4 bedroom multiple dwellings
in 2 buildings of 21 and 2 storeys
plus 4 levels of basement parking

June D'Rozario & Associates
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 08:03 AM   #8
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Planning notice lodged last week

Lot 413, Town of Darwin
22 Smith Street, Darwin City
Shops, restaurants, offices, 24 hotel
suites, 24 x 2, 16 x 3 and
4 x 4 bedroom multiple dwellings
in 2 buildings of 21 and 2 storeys
plus 4 levels of basement parking

June D'Rozario & Associates
any plans out ?
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Old June 19th, 2009, 07:32 AM   #9
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This one is looking very promising.

From the Council meeting 16 June.

REPORT NUMBER: 09TS0084 PL:cb
SUBJECT: PROPOSED RE-DEVELOPMENT OF LOT 413 (22) SMITH STREET,
DARWIN – FORMER COMMONWEALTH BANK BUILDING


RECOMMENDATIONS:

A. THAT Report Number 09TS0084 PL:cb entitled Proposed Re-Development of
Lot 413 (22) Smith Street, Darwin – Former Commonwealth Bank Building, be
received and noted.
B. THAT Council support the loss of on-street car parking within its road reserves
of Bennett Street and Yuen Place, as a result of the re-development of Lot 413
Smith Street – former Commonwealth Bank Heritage Building, subject to:
i). Designs of road, traffic management and amended parking layout within
Yuen Place and Bennett Street be to the satisfaction of the General
Manager Infrastructure.
ii). The Developer makes a monetary contribution to Council for each onstreet
car park lost.
iii). The monetary contribution per space be the same as the monetary value
determined for car parking spaces within Council’s Car Parking
Contribution Plan for CB Zones.
C. THAT the letter to Development Assessment Services at Attachment B,
Report Number 09TS0084 PL:cb entitled Proposed Re-Development of Lot 413
(22) Smith Street, Darwin – Former Commonwealth Bank Building, be
endorsed by Council.
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Old June 19th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #10
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Thanks for the update
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Old August 5th, 2009, 04:40 PM   #11
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Approved

approved with conditions

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/200...-business.html

Green light given to 21-storey tower
BEN LANGFORD

August 5th, 2009


Artist's impression of the bar and restaurant


The 21-storey tower proposed for the old bank building

A 21-STOREY hotel and apartment tower will be built at a heritage site in Darwin's CBD after receiving approval from the Development Consent Authority.

Philip Grice's company Fannie Bay Investments will build the complex next to the old Commonwealth Bank building on corner of Bennett and Smith streets.

Mr Grice yesterday said the development would be a "style-setter" for Darwin.

"It's been designed so there's a life about the building most hours of the day," he said.

''We definitely want it to be an iconic building in Darwin. I've seen enough from my travels that we just want something a notch up for Darwin."

Mr Grice said development will have "negligible" impact on traffic flow along the narrow Bennett St, which is one of Darwin's busiest.

"We've done traffic studies ... on those two major corners," he said.

"We'll have a lot of traffic coming out of Yuen Place but we've abided by the council's request to do whatever they want us to do."

Cars will enter the building from Smith St and the tiny Yuen Place will be the main exit.

Expanded access may be available from the other side if the city's bus terminus is moved, as has been proposed.

The heritage-listed bank chamber would remain intact.

Mr Grice said it was his "absolute desire" to find a tenant who would use the bank chamber for a restaurant and bar in the style of the old Darwin Hotel.

The development, which Mr Grice estimated will cost $70 million, will contain seven levels of offices, two levels of hotel with 24 suites, and 10 levels containing44 apartments.

The Development Consent Authority's approval is conditional on some changes but Mr Grice said he did not yet know what the conditions were.

Construction is set to start early next year.
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Old August 12th, 2009, 03:44 PM   #12
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This one is looking very promising.

From the Council meeting 16 June.

REPORT NUMBER: 09TS0084 PL:cb
SUBJECT: PROPOSED RE-DEVELOPMENT OF LOT 413 (22) SMITH STREET,
DARWIN – FORMER COMMONWEALTH BANK BUILDING


RECOMMENDATIONS:

A. THAT Report Number 09TS0084 PL:cb entitled Proposed Re-Development of
Lot 413 (22) Smith Street, Darwin – Former Commonwealth Bank Building, be
received and noted.
B. THAT Council support the loss of on-street car parking within its road reserves
of Bennett Street and Yuen Place, as a result of the re-development of Lot 413
Smith Street – former Commonwealth Bank Heritage Building, subject to:
i). Designs of road, traffic management and amended parking layout within
Yuen Place and Bennett Street be to the satisfaction of the General
Manager Infrastructure.
ii). The Developer makes a monetary contribution to Council for each onstreet
car park lost.
iii). The monetary contribution per space be the same as the monetary value
determined for car parking spaces within Council’s Car Parking
Contribution Plan for CB Zones.
C. THAT the letter to Development Assessment Services at Attachment B,
Report Number 09TS0084 PL:cb entitled Proposed Re-Development of Lot 413
(22) Smith Street, Darwin – Former Commonwealth Bank Building, be
endorsed by Council.
I wouldn't bother with what the Darwin City Council decides. They have no jurisdiction over planning laws in Darwin. No council in the NT has such jurisdiction; It's why the NT can get development up and running so fast. Councils would just gum-up the development process; not a luxury that a young jurisdiction can afford.

I had to laugh when the QLD Premier Anna Bligh announced during the QLD election earlier this year that they would introduce a "green door" development approval process whereby "green" development proposals would be fast-tracked and then boasted it would reduce the approval process time down to 18 months!!! In Darwin, they would have all gone fishing if they had to wait that long for development approval.
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Any updates or news on this?
While this is preserving the old CBA bldg, has this got to do some rear demolition or Has some excavation of the site started?
OR does it still need some tweaking before this starts?
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Old November 1st, 2009, 04:27 PM   #14
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Old CBA still in one, run-down, piece.
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There is a new proposal to convert this old CBA building into a pub with several bars and eating areas. Upstairs would be function rooms.

No new high rise development for this site, which is almost opposite the Charles Darwin building site.
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There is a new proposal to convert this old CBA building into a pub with several bars and eating areas. Upstairs would be function rooms.

No new high rise development for this site, which is almost opposite the Charles Darwin building site.
A lot down stairs has been redevloped to a medical clinic. Having a pub around it might be good for both
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A lot down stairs has been redevloped to a medical clinic. Having a pub around it might be good for both
It's going to be called ROURKE'S. Maybe an Irish theme.
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It's going to be called ROURKE'S. Maybe an Irish theme.
Monsoons used to be rourkes. (Rourkes Drift). English theme when it was Rourkes .
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Rorke's Drift.
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